Brinkmann Nyquist DAC - technical jewel with marvelous sound

Thanks for your feedback. I am happy for you that you enjoy your Nyquist.
Could you comment on the headphone output ? Is it at the level of a TOL external headphone amp ? ( I have a BHSE for my Stax but I wish I could get rid of my other Amp EC445 for my dynamic & planars)

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Here’s what Robert Harley had to say about the Nyquist headphone amp:

“The headphone output delivers all of this sound quality and more. Driving the stunningly great Audeze LCD-4 planar-magnetic phones through Nordost Heimdahl cable, the Nyquist was the best-sounding headphone amplifier I’ve heard (although I have not heard many top models). The clarity, transparency, detail, and transient response were phenomenal. Although I ran the Nyquist’s volume control toward the top end of its range on some music, it had plenty of drive on even the most demanding material. The Nyquist’s state-of-the-art headphone amplification section is icing on an already delicious cake.”


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Thanks for your feedback. I am happy for you that you enjoy your Nyquist.
Could you comment on the headphone output ? Is it at the level of a TOL external headphone amp ? ( I have a BHSE for my Stax but I wish I could get rid of my other Amp EC445 for my dynamic & planars)

Thanks

I think, as Robert Harley wrote, the Nyquist headphone amp is very good. It is also using the tube output stage, so very nice and holographic sound as well.

Can you do better? Sure you can, with a very powerful external high-end hp amp you can drive any hp w/o limitation to very high levels.

Can you get better SQ? Only if you use the Nyquist as a DAC to feed the ext. hp amp.

In my MQA test (different thread) I was using the very demanding Senn HD800 to a great effect. What you need to know about those cans is that when driven inadequately they will sound thin and harsh. Only if you have a potent enough hp amp you will get a reference level sound. With the Nyquist I had great sound. RH was using Audeze LCD-4’s which need proper amplification as well, also to a great effect.


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Overall, use of the tubes in the output stage is an interesting concept. If the intent is any similar to the RöNt turntable power supply, the vacuum in the rectifier tubes not only isolate their plates from the cathodes, but also the power line from the drive circuitry. That allows the tubes to work like a high class power line filter.

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Michael Lavorgna described another interesting benefit of the Nyquist’s hybrid circuit topology: employing tubes in the output stage, allows leveraging their "instantaneous response to voltage changes."

Read more at https://www.audiostream.com/content/brinkmann-audio-nyquist-dac#52uI8wmRUdtGePOG.99


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I think, as Robert Harley wrote, the Nyquist headphone amp is very good. It is also using the tube output stage, so very nice and holographic sound as well.

Can you do better? Sure you can, with a very powerful external high-end hp amp you can drive any hp w/o limitation to very high levels.

Can you get better SQ? Only if you use the Nyquist as a DAC to feed the ext. hp amp.

In my MQA test (different thread) I was using the very demanding Senn HD800 to a great effect. What you need to know about those cans is that when driven inadequately they will sound thin and harsh. Only if you have a potent enough hp amp you will get a reference level sound. With the Nyquist I had great sound. RH was using Audeze LCD-4’s which need proper amplification as well, also to a great effect.


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Kuoppis could you please provide the link to your MQA test thread ?
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That appears to be correct, it is often stated that the Siemens ones were made by TFK (even though with Siemens imprint) and the Lorenz SEL ones seem to have a TFK label on the bottom in addition to the SEL logo.

It is interesting that different production runs do have different sounds. Why is that?


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Different construction or different methods of assembly. These seem like the same manufacturer OEMing to different labels.

The ECC40 had like 8 brands but were only 2 different constructions in the end.
 
kuopipis - great thread!

i have been following this thread with great interest. it has really made me rethink plans for a vinyl upgrade. with the sound you describe and the features of this dac, it is a highly compelling proposition. particularly attractive are 1) the tube output stage which as you suggest might contribute to its sound and 2) ethernet connectivity which makes hi-rez digital much less of a computer science / hardware project.

other than being pricey, seems like a piece of equipment to carefully investigate... can't think of another dac with these features, characteristics and quality.

looking forward to further comments as you have more time with the nyquist.
 
kuopipis - great thread!

i have been following this thread with great interest. it has really made me rethink plans for a vinyl upgrade. with the sound you describe and the features of this dac, it is a highly compelling proposition. particularly attractive are 1) the tube output stage which as you suggest might contribute to its sound and 2) ethernet connectivity which makes hi-rez digital much less of a computer science / hardware project.

other than being pricey, seems like a piece of equipment to carefully investigate... can't think of another dac with these features, characteristics and quality.

looking forward to further comments as you have more time with the nyquist.

Hi mhanc, thank you for the kind words. It is indeed easy to post interesting things about the Nyquist as it is so versatile. In the current market the Nyquist is pretty much the bees knees. Hence it has collected pretty much all available awards this year.

There are other hi-end DACs in the same price range or more likely quite a bit above, which also have a good sound. Whether the sound however is equally good, is yet to be seen. But even the most highest priced DACs do not come even close in terms of feature set: tremendous sound with all formats, new analog kind but better sound signature, full MQA support through all interfaces, discrete DSD DAC, 8 DACs per channel (2x8), user replaceable digital module, streaming and Ethernet capability, Roon end-point, tubed output stage, outboard power module included.

If you take any of those features, with most other manufacturers all of those come at an extra cost. All in all, I think the Nyquist is pretty much the best value-for-money hi-end DAC offering in the market.


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Interesting design principles Brinkmann had set for themselves for the Nyquist:

- Quality
- Longevity
- Ease of use

While I subscribe to all of them, it’s longevity that sticks out. This is especially crucial in the hi-end segment, as no-one wants to be forced into short replacement cycles in hi-end.

Read it in the Brinkmann white paper, available from their web page.

http://www.brinkmann-audio.com/inhalt/en/whitepaper/nyquist.pdf



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Another question I had when investigating the Nyquist was related to the DAC chip implemented in it: ESS9018S. While that is a technically very advanced D/A conversion IC, it can be obtained e.g. through the rather good Auralic Vega (or my stylish Gemini 2000 for that matter) for less than 1/5th of the cost. And the Auralic implementation is already quite nice, as it has been voiced after the world-class analogue Neve recording console. That is however where the commonality ends.

First of all, it is a bit of a simplification to judge the sound of a DAC based on the onboard IC, as the actual implementation and customizable filtering affects the sound quite a bit. There is a sound signature though, if the ESS9018 does all the conversion work like D/A processing, PLL and digital filtering. But already in case of e.g. an Oppo or Auralic implementation the DACs do sound a bit different IMHO. Audible differences can be achieved in the basic D/A chip implementation and by customizing the filtering options as Auralic have done.

Second, as the ESS9018S has eight D/A circuits those can be allocated in different ways to serve the conversion process. E.g. in the Vega four D/A converters have been allocated to each channel. Alternatively, they can be assigned to serve one or both channels, i.e. a stereo or mono setup. This is is a specific feature of this D/A chip.

In comparison, in the Nyquist there actually are two ESS9018S ICs, i.e. one per channel with eight D/A circuits each, running in a double-mono configuration. The benefit of that is that their outputs are combined to lower the noise floor, randomize any conversion errors and create a balanced output signal. This does affect the conversion accuracy and noise floor quite significantly.

Further, as the Nyquist is a hi-end DAC and there is only so much that can be achieved with an off-the-shelve DAC implementation, the actual sound processing in the Nyquist is done completely outside the ESS9018S. As a matter of fact, only the actual D/A conversion is handled by the Sabre and all other of its advanced functions have been turned off. This is as better sound quality can be achieved through custom implementations. In case of the Nyquist a customized PLL, a dedicated DSP with digital filters and a separate re-clocking circuit have been developed in-house by Brinkmann. To minimize jitter, the clock does have very low phase noise and is sitting next to the D/A chip. Even the clock’s power supply is derived from the tubes, as the Telefunken PCF803’s operate as a power filter to supply cleaner power. The level of effort in this design is also exemplified through the fact, that there are 11 power supplies inside the DAC module alone. And as such, in the Nyquist the DAC chip does not affect the sound pretty much at all, as it is only used for the actual D/A conversion and all sound related processing and filtering are done in custom processors.

Going back to the beginning of this posting, we can see that while the same IC is used in more affordable products, there are fundamental differences in the implementation. To the extent that they actually do have rather little in common and correspondingly the products’ sound signature is very different.

This is also where I disagree with John Atkinson’s Auralic Vega review: the Vega is for sure a nice DAC, but in my book it does not represent anything anywhere even close to a Class A+ rating, i.e. a reference level product. While the Vega is nice, there are products that are so much better, namely e.g. the Brinkmann Nyquist, the Berkeley Ref II or Mike’s new MSB Select II, that they simply do not belong in the same class. Frankly speaking, I think the guys at Stereophile appear a little lost in the digital world at times or at least their Recommended Components list seems a bit incomprehensible.

Concluding from my study of the matter, the ES9018S as implemented in the Nyquist, is really not your Dad’s Buick.


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So, have you rolled tubes yet?

Actually, I have not [emoji3]. A couple of reasons:

- firstly, we are currently enjoying our winter vacation at the summer house (oxymoron, I guess) and I do not have access to the Nyquist
- secondly, talking to a German tube specialist he was of the opinion that all PCF803 tubes were TFK made and they just contract manufactured for others like Siemens (which would not be uncommon in the tube business, as I am told)
- further, it is difficult to find matched pairs, much less matched matched quads (especially as they are NOS)

So, I am going to do it, but the search is still ongoing. This is actually quite fun.


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Congrats on finding a keeper. DACs are such a personal preference....like underwear :disbelief:
After going thru 3 DACs I found the Yggdrasil and it spent over 4 years in my system. My Chord Dave does it for me now till I get the itch again.
 
Congrats on finding a keeper. DACs are such a personal preference....like underwear :disbelief:
After going thru 3 DACs I found the Yggdrasil and it spent over 4 years in my system. My Chord Dave does it for me now till I get the itch again.

Agree on both accounts, on the one hand it comes down to a lots of personal preferences. On the other hand, both the Yggie and the Dave are excellent DACs.

Glad you have found something you like. I sure hope my itch is scratched for a while as well [emoji3].


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Actually, I have not [emoji3]. A couple of reasons:

- firstly, we are currently enjoying our winter vacation at the summer house (oxymoron, I guess) and I do not have access to the Nyquist
- secondly, talking to a German tube specialist he was of the opinion that all PCF803 tubes were TFK made and they just contract manufactured for others like Siemens (which would not be uncommon in the tube business, as I am told)
- further, it is difficult to find matched pairs, much less matched matched quads (especially as they are NOS)

So, I am going to do it, but the search is still ongoing. This is actually quite fun.


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Logical.

If all TFK made, then unless the construction changed over the years, there is little point.
 
Logical.

It all TFK made, then unless the construction changed over the years, there is little point.

Agreed, in case it really is the case. But I have not been able to verify this yet.

Nevertheless, as you say, there may be product changes or modifications over the years which again might lead to different sounds.

Deepening my understanding of the matter will continue and I will report back.


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Hi, kuoppis,
I ve read the review of the nyquist fully and your review only complements and confirm it.
Really happy for you.
Can you please tell me if the nyquist could be used as a preamp feeding power amp directly.( balnced or unbalanced)?
I know a proper integrated or preamp will be much better, but i was thinking, may be as a start invest in nyquist, feed it with power amps ,then invest in a good preamp.
Thks


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