Best Monitors under $10,000

Focal Diablo Utopia iii, best monitor I've ever heard. Especially amazing paired with Devialet using its SAM. Very life-like presentation. I've owned them for a while and my jaw still drops from time to time with silly grin on my face when I listen to them. Makes music so real with palpable physical presence on incredible soundstage.

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Has anyone had any experience with the Eclipse TD712z mkII's? I've always had an interest in them and while they are of a quite different design ethos than most of the 2 way boxes mentioned here they are supposedly fantastic in their own special ways.

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Has anyone had any experience with the Eclipse TD712z mkII's? I've always had an interest in them and while they are of a quite different design ethos than most of the 2 way boxes mentioned here they are supposedly fantastic in their own special ways.



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They look like the Devialet Phantom somewhat.

ParttimeAudiophile did a write up on these a while back...
 
Has anyone had any experience with the Eclipse TD712z mkII's? I've always had an interest in them and while they are of a quite different design ethos than most of the 2 way boxes mentioned here they are supposedly fantastic in their own special ways.


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Hi - I have a pair & they are superb speakers . There was a recent update on Stereophile and I echo all of the comments .

Fujitsu Ten Eclipse TD712z loudspeaker July 2015 | Stereophile.com

Images pop from thin air in a fully fleshed out fashion but with tremendous image depth and palpability. Set up is a bit weird, mine sit 5 feet away from me , 7 feet apart , toed in directly to the listening position. Somewhat restricted in the bass and with a very narrow sweet spot. Within those constraints , simply put - nothing I've ever heard sounds like them . The benefits of a crossover-less , single driver presentation are very persuasive to my ears . Please remember , these guys have development budgets that all of the high-end companies can only dream of. Eclipse is joint-venture between Toyota & Fujitsu.
 
The Eclipse TD712z mkII's look :heart: very cute, like you want to pat them on the head.
 
The Eclipse TD712z mkII's look :heart: very cute, like you want to pat them on the head.

They look like eyeballs staring at you. I think they would creep me out.
 
Bobolaclune Somewhat restricted in the bass and with a very narrow sweet spot. [/QUOTE said:
So is this to say they are generally poor off axis? Or just that they lose some of their magic there? As I am looking for speakers for a living room space, not a dedicated room, this may be an issue.


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So is this to say they are generally poor off axis? Or just that they lose some of their magic there? As I am looking for speakers for a living room space, not a dedicated room, this may be an issue.


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Magic is the right word . Within that (admittedly) narrow window, they image like mad & it's startling just how direct and present the performance appears to be . Outside of that , I guess it'll be somewhat pleasant background / elevator music . I wouldn't recommend them for a generalized space from that point of view . Simply weaving your head in and out of the sweet spot is surprisingly different.
 
One of most memorable monitors is Krell LAT 2 (I think it's the 2, definitely not 1). Very lively, immediate presentation. Not polite or soft but music did sound live through them.

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I compared the 1008's against my Usher BE-718's and to my ears the Usher's won out by a considerable margin. You can pick up a used pair with the original stands, which are awesome and heavy, for under $1500. I would highly recommend auditioning or just purchase a pair if you have the opportunity. I found mine at an audio store in Portland, Oregon. I found a private guy to transport them for I believe $200 or so. Perhaps the best audio investment I have made, maybe with the exception of the Muse Two Hundred amplifier I bought on AG, which outperforms my Pass Aleph 0 monoblocks in every way. It drives my 100db HE speakers down to my 82db sensitive Platinum Audio Solo monitors with grip and authority with the sweetest mids and highs of any amp I have had the pleasure to own.
 
Yea, I've only heard good things about the Ushers. The newer Mini-X Diamonds look even nicer. Unfortunately their low 83db sensitivity has kept them off my short list. Maybe I need to be amplifier shopping...[emoji389][emoji389]

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I would ask why so many monitor speakers look like SF speakers, but I guess the answer would be obvious.
 
I hooked up the pioneer s2ex speakers. I put them on proper stands (custom made gig harbor $1500 stands made 100% of delrin). 33" tweeter height which is where my ears are on my couch). Previously had the KEF LS50 speakers and then Proac floor standers. My wife arrives tonight and I was waiting to see if she approves (she kicked the proacs to the curb). Let me fast forward - She will have no vote on these. They are staying. They are on par with my Magico S5 speakers. Unbelievable. Previous speakers sounded bright in my big living room - these are sweet sweet sweet. At first i was wondering where the top end was then as i sat and listened the ease and transparency hit me. Like best audio gear it is musical and not splashy. I had to turn the subwoofer way down and even off as these fill the room with low end. Listening to Diana krall and other songs I am very familiar with. First time my vacation home sounds on par with my reference system. Anyone want to buy a mint pair of KEF ls50 with matching stands?
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Wow! Congratulations on finding a pair of these underrated speakers. Glad you love them, as I suspected you would. At 62 pounds each I figured you wouldn't need a sub. Those babies must crank. Hope to have the opportunity to find a pair one of these days. Should you ever tire of them please let me know. Enjoy them in good health.
 
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