Ayre KX-5 Twenty and VX-5 Twenty combo ......

If you listen closely you can hear the silence between pulses. At least thats my story and I am sticking to it.

JA's review of the 50k Bel Canto Black system has some nice comparisons to the Ayre Twenty gear at the end:

"I wrote earlier how different the Bel Cantos system's sound quality was from that of the Ayre electronics. The Ayre combo had a robust overall sound—before being broken in, its sound was a little too robust—with a rhythmically coherent character that emphasized musical values. With every recording I played, the Ayres got the overall musical picture right. By contrast, the Black presented individual audio objects within the soundstage with superb detail, but those objects were not quite as well integrated into the whole as they were with the Ayre....But despite my familiarity with this recording, the experience of listening to it through Ayre's QB-9, KX-R Twenty, and MX-R Twentys was a little more like the first time I heard Erick Lichte's and my final mix, back in 2007."

Read more at http://www.stereophile.com/content/...ystem-follow-october-2015#a6wrmYomG76Gphph.99




Re my post #91 above and JA's comment about Class D sound integration, I have said this before, but will repeat the concept because I believe it may have relevance to JA's comments: I am convinced the brain's exceptional ability to discern virtually immeasurable variances in time domain is behind much of the preference some have for analog over digital and or Class A over Class D. The best evidence I could put fourth for this phenomenon is the progression of dacs toward an analog sound as the clock speed is improved (all else held constant). Take an MSB Diamond and play the Femto 140, then the 77 and then the Femto 33 all in the same dac with the same music. You get a progression toward an analog sound. This difference in clock speed is extremely small and would never show up in traditional measurables. Atkin's wave form and impulse plots are in .001 seconds; a femto is .000000000000001 seconds and yet the human mind can discern these change in the time domain.

In my post #91 I was tongue in cheek about actually hearing the silence between Class D pulses compared to Class A, but I do think its possible some find the pulses' effects on time domain to be less to there liking than other forms of amplification.

Please Note: throughout the above I make no statement about the superiority of digital to analog, Cass D to Class A, or vice versa. I am merely providing complete speculation on something that might cause the differences in sound observed by many given what I think is a fairly well accepted observation about the correlation between infinitesimal changes in clock speed and dac performance.
 
Myths and misconceptions. The lifeblood of the industry. What ever it takes to make a guy happy they should go for. If that means spending exorbitant amounts of money, this makes for a whole lot of winners. Victory for all! Anyways sounds like that fella might be on to something. :)

To be clear, I never said he wasn't and I have made it clear to you my mountain is open for climbing comparisons when the gizmo is ready. I am a skeptical supporter, if that's possible. It's just a little early for some of this imo.
 
To be clear, I never said he wasn't and I have made it clear to you my mountain is open for climbing comparisons when the gizmo is ready. I am a skeptical supporter, if that's possible. It's just a little early for some of this imo.

The Nord amps we been talking about are already ready and proven. As for filters, how do you think DCS gets their "analog sound" so many rave about?
 
The Nord amps we been talking about are already ready and proven. As for filters, how do you think DCS gets their "analog sound" so many rave about?

Bold one: Proven is defined by the user of the word in this case. My data sample requires far more degrees of freedom; but nice try.

Bold two: Oh and the clock has nothing to do with it?

Get back to me when your gizmo is ready.
 
Bold one: Proven is defined by the user of the word in this case. My data sample requires far more degrees of freedom; but nice try.

Bold two: Oh and the clock has nothing to do with it?

As far as I know he has a 100% satisfaction rate. Everyone is thrilled with the amp. And very few have even started opamp rolling yet! The fun hasn't even begun!

And for DCS the clock may be important, but it's the filters that voice them to sound like they do.
 
Thanks for sharing. Sounds like Class D to me.

At RMAF (I think or it may have been another show?) they had KEF Blade 2's with the Bel Canto stack in one room and it sounded poor. Then, in another room, Parasound JC1's driving the KEF Blade 2's and it was amazing!

I love the benefits of pure Class D - cheap mega power in a box you can carry under your arm. But sonically, it's not there - YET.



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Well lets not forget the 50K price tag ....
 
As far as I know he has a 100% satisfaction rate. Everyone is thrilled with the amp. And very few have even started opamp rolling yet! The fun hasn't even begun!

And for DCS the clock may be important, but it's the filters that voice them to sound like they do.

Bruno's work is top notch, since it's Audio not everyone is going to like Class-D or digital respect that and it get's alot easier.
 
Bruno's work is top notch, since it's Audio not everyone is going to like Class-D or digital respect that and it get's alot easier.

I have no problem with people having different tastes. What bothers me is when people claim to not like things they never heard. I know why people don't like class D, and I've explained why several times as well.
 
See any irony in your post ... :)

I don't recall claiming to not like something I haven't heard. The problem is nobody actually reads what I say. What I claim is class D and digital can be made to sound phenomenal to everyone. But the secret is you must trust your ears. Very few do, and this is the problem.
 
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