Axpona 2017 Official Pictures & Report Thread

Well said Alex. I agree. Axpona needs a "press/industry only" on Thursday IMO, they could even add the ability to schedule listening sessions on that day so everyone can plan out their day.


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Yeah... They tried to do something like that at THE Show, but it was so badly communicated, that literally nobody knew about it, not even the exhibitors themselves, let alone the press... It was common to see folks still putting their systems together on Thursday, while we had ours ready to go :)
 
Mike said:
Well said Alex. I agree. Axpona needs a "press/industry only" on Thursday IMO, they could even add the ability to schedule listening sessions on that day so everyone can plan out their day.


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Mike, can I be your "plus one"


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Sure. Your pictures are 9000 times better than mine.


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asiufy said:
It was clear that this year's AXPONA pushed the reviewers to the max, with barely enough time for proper listening. Perhaps an extra day is in order, or a better arrangement to accomodate the reviewer's visits.
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Agree. The "logic" that it's the rooms to blame for bad sound completely unravels when identical rooms on the same floor have "good" sound.
I think it's entirely possible by late Sunday (I may have mistakenly posted Sat previously), Jasons ears had had enough.:)
That is the fragility and variability of human perceptions. Take with grain of salt.
Or better yet, experience it and judge for yourself.

cheers,

AJ
 
After years of attending numerous shows and extensive listening in dealer showrooms I've developed an approach I use to form what I consider are reasonably valid conclusions. Since there are many possible limitations on the performance of a system in any given environment (room dimensions, power quality, setup, cabling, and the equipment itself) I try to limit my assessments to positive impressions formed. Further I only consider that each piece of the system being evaluated is capable of at a minimum the level of performance that I experience. Any part of the system may be capable of significantly better performance in a better room, with better setup, power, cabling, or other related gear, but I know it's at least capable of what I actually experienced. I try to not draw negative impressions since in a better system each piece of gear would likely perform better. It's hard to do this since it's an audiophile's nature to condemn whatever we hear that sounds bad, but I don't think that always results in fair and logically based conclusions. YMMV generally applies.
 
AJ Soundfield said:
Agree. The "logic" that it's the rooms to blame for bad sound completely unravels when identical rooms on the same floor have "good" sound.
I think it's entirely possible by late Sunday (I may have mistakenly posted Sat previously), Jasons ears had had enough.:)
That is the fragility and variability of human perceptions. Take with grain of salt.
Or better yet, experience it and judge for yourself.

cheers,

AJ
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Yes, you're on to something here :)
This might be related to the reason ABX test results normally don't correlate to our listening impressions. When you're doing ABX testing, or going from room to room at a show to actually do a report for your "work", you're put under stress to do a specific thing. And that thing is not exactly listen to music, but to nitpick and try to find fault/differences. And frankly, that shouldn't be the goal of this hobby.
We evaluate *anything*, not only audio gear, if we're relaxed and put in a state where we can take it in as a whole, instead of having to find fault with this or that.
 
Mike said:
Well said Alex. I agree. Axpona needs a "press/industry only" on Thursday IMO, they could even add the ability to schedule listening sessions on that day so everyone can plan out their day.


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Munich does press and trade only days, opening up to the public on the last 3 days
 
audio.bill said:
After years of attending numerous shows and extensive listening in dealer showrooms I've developed an approach I use to form what I consider are reasonably valid conclusions. Since there are many possible limitations on the performance of a system in any given environment (room dimensions, power quality, setup, cabling, and the equipment itself) I try to limit my assessments to positive impressions formed. Further I only consider that each piece of the system being evaluated is capable of at a minimum the level of performance that I experience. Any part of the system may be capable of significantly better performance in a better room, with better setup, power, cabling, or other related gear, but I know it's at least capable of what I actually experienced. I try to not draw negative impressions since in a better system each piece of gear would likely perform better. It's hard to do this since it's an audiophile's nature to condemn whatever we hear that sounds bad, but I don't think that always results in fair and logically based conclusions. YMMV generally applies.
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I agree, I have heard equipment I thought negative in shows sound much better outside. If I heard something good at shows, it generally sounded better in proper set up. So yeah, don't want to judge negatively on shows but I find it a bit silly when industry spend so much money on the gear and not on setting it up right. At Munich, there is too much glass and rooms are many a times thin, causing bass loss. Some rooms are different from other rooms. There are small offsite rooms which actually have better conditions
 
There is no excuse for bad sound at any show , rooms are being setup by professionals not weekend audio warriors.

With a really bad room , best to do static display, a pole, stripper, strobe lights and make sure enuff brochures..


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Wow, the Von Schweikert room hit the ball outta the park!!!! AVshowrooms.com

VAC/Von Schweikert Audio with The Kronos turntable and the SCPS-1, MasterBuilt Audio and ASC TubeTraps: Words cannot express what I felt when listening to Roger Waters “Amused to Death” on this system with the ULTRA 11 Von Schweikert loudspeakers. It is the best of show. It is the best of any room at any show I’ve ever attended and I have been in thousands of exhibit rooms over the years. The experience was otherworldly. The sound was big and detailed – organic; the room had a heartbeat except there was no room, everything disappeared, like having the best seat in the house at a venue with excellent acoustics. I’m usually not a big fan of large loudspeakers at shows because they are very hard to set-up properly in a less than adequate environment with little time to get things right, but this was an achievement of the first order. Damon, Kevin, Leif, Art, Kronos and MasterBuilt take a bow to yet another round of applause for providing us listeners with only the very best.
 
wisnon said:
Wow, the Von Schweikert room hit the ball outta the park!!!! AVshowrooms.com

VAC/Von Schweikert Audio with The Kronos turntable and the SCPS-1, MasterBuilt Audio and ASC TubeTraps: Words cannot express what I felt when listening to Roger Waters “Amused to Death” on this system with the ULTRA 11 Von Schweikert loudspeakers. It is the best of show. It is the best of any room at any show I’ve ever attended and I have been in thousands of exhibit rooms over the years. The experience was otherworldly. The sound was big and detailed – organic; the room had a heartbeat except there was no room, everything disappeared, like having the best seat in the house at a venue with excellent acoustics. I’m usually not a big fan of large loudspeakers at shows because they are very hard to set-up properly in a less than adequate environment with little time to get things right, but this was an achievement of the first order. Damon, Kevin, Leif, Art, Kronos and MasterBuilt take a bow to yet another round of applause for providing us listeners with only the very best.
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Norm, I heard those speakers weigh in at 900 lbs ea, talking about getting the placement right the first time
 
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