Avantgarde dealer in Singapore

Mike

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I have been there before. Really nice store and the owner very friendly. He was using all Air Tight gear driving the AG' Duo's when I was there.

the MBL dealer in the same Adelphi centre was even more impressive.
 
Beautiful but sadly compromised set-up (basshorns in the middle)...

That's an interesting point. This appears to be a frequently used way to set them up. Also the Munich demo was assembled like this.

How would you set it up?


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That's an interesting point. This appears to be a frequently used way to set them up. Also the Munich demo was assembled like this.

How would you set it up?


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I realize that Avantgarde shows them with the subs in the middle. I would agree that from a sheer marketing standpoint (visually), that arrangement is vastly more attractive.

IMO, it's not all that close to what is possible when sound quality & musical impact are the guiding principles.

It will be notably lacking in Dynamics & Presence for sure.

Without going into all of the reasons why it is so compromised, let's just note that the bass in this arrangement is essentially mono, coming from the middle of the room. The xover is typically about 90 Hz.

In terms of sheer musical involvement, the best setup will always have the subs separated, each near or at a side wall, preferably reasonably close to the rear of the TRIO horns.

My same Trio/Basshorn set-up technique had the audience at the 2003 Stereophile Show in S.F. jumping to their feet and applauding at the end of each demo. Two well-known reviewers (Robert Harley of TAS and Srajan Ebaen of 6moons.com) commented in their publications about this acclaim. They were amazed to see the audience stand up and applaud (!) at the end of each demo session, something that they had never seen.

Twelve years later (!), Robert again wrote of this phenomenon, in a recent issue of TAS: The same system at a San Francisco show elicited a standing ovation with wild applause at the conclusion of Pink Floyd’s The Wall—the only instance of such a reaction to a show demo in memory. —RH]

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/balanced-audio-technology-rex-ii-preamplifier-and-rex-ii-monoblock-power-amplifiers/


 
I realize that Avantgarde shows them with the subs in the middle. I would agree that from a sheer marketing standpoint (visually), that arrangement is vastly more attractive.

IMO, it's not all that close to what is possible when sound quality & musical impact are the guiding principles.

It will be notably lacking in Dynamics & Presence for sure.

Without going into all of the reasons why it is so compromised, let's just note that the bass in this arrangement is essentially mono, coming from the middle of the room. The xover is typically about 90 Hz.

In terms of sheer musical involvement, the best setup will always have the subs separated, each near or at a side wall, preferably reasonably close to the rear of the TRIO horns.

My same Trio/Basshorn set-up technique had the audience at the 2003 Stereophile Show in S.F. jumping to their feet and applauding at the end of each demo. Two well-known reviewers (Robert Harley of TAS and Srajan Ebaen of 6moons.com) commented in their publications about this acclaim. They were amazed to see the audience stand up and applaud (!) at the end of each demo session, something that they had never seen.

Twelve years later (!), Robert again wrote of this phenomenon, in a recent issue of TAS: The same system at a San Francisco show elicited a standing ovation with wild applause at the conclusion of Pink Floyd’s The Wall—the only instance of such a reaction to a show demo in memory. —RH]

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/balanced-audio-technology-rex-ii-preamplifier-and-rex-ii-monoblock-power-amplifiers/



Yep ...

We had the same standing ovation effect at Stereophile 94 and our subwoofer columns were to the outside left and right, you must have snuck into our room Jim ... :)


My 2cent guess , is the subs overpower when placed L/R and the middle location pressurizes the room more evenly with less issues. The center sub position does cause the sound stage to collapse inward, but this can sometimes be offset by varying how wide the L/R stance is and playing with toe ...



Regards ...
 
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