Aurender and Luxman

fourxmotion

fourxmotion

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Does anyone have experience with the Aurender units and the Luxman DA-06 DAC? The reason I ask is I had a N100S in March/April. I really liked the unit but it was not 100% compatible with the DA-06 even though Aurender said it was. I worked with their support for a few months but got no where. I even tried an Auralic Aeries which exhibited the same problem.

The Luxman employs a relay that engages each time the sample rate changes but with the Aurender and Aeries it would engage when I skipped tracks in the queue that were all the same sample rate.

Auralic says this is an issue with Linux and how it implements USB.

Frustrated with the unit I sold it but really miss it.
 
Greetings. I just purchased the N100H, and have been using it sucessfully with the Luxman DA-06. I'm using the aurenders internal HD (not streaming from NAS), to which I copied music files. Occasionally there will be a delay when a track is added for playback, or no playback, which seems to correct if I reset the playlist. Rarely, the aurender will need to re-connect with the network, which seems to be the cause for occ lags. But these issues are infrequent/minor. I just purchased the Uptone Regen. I doubted it would have any sonic impact, given the LPS in the N100H and its reportedly high quality USB implementation, as well as the asynchronous USB input in the luxman, but was pleasantly surprised at across the board improvements which are not trivial, to say the least. Tidal streaming also works flawlessly with the Luxman/Aurender combo.
 
Would it be possible for you to do a test for me? Put a few 44.1 songs in the playback queue and start to listen to them. Then skip from track to track. Does the DA-06 engage it's relay, click, as you skip to each song? If you have some DSD files could you do the same? Thank you.
 
Sure. My pleasure. You seem to have identified the situation I've had - the song que starts fine, then occasionally "hangs" if I skip to another track. I'll post once I've done. Curious about anyone's impressions with Aurender and the Regan - with or without the Luxman.
 
From a cold start, the first playlist (16/44) was initiated with the "add all songs" tab, followed by "play now" in the menus. First track played after a click of the relay. I skipped by hitting pause, then touched the second track. The track wouldn't play. I cleared all and re-loaded the same list. Hang again. Thereafter, there were no issues, including random skips to diff tracks. A series of subsequent playlists played without hiccup - skiping tracks by hitting pause first, or just by touching the new track while the first was playing. During the initial period of hanging, the aurender flashed a message "reconnecting to network". I played a DSD file, and skipped track to track with no issues, with the relay clicking with each new track. Back to PCM, no issues. The "freezing" occurs occasionally - i.e., 1-2 times over a listening session of a few hours. I had assumed this was due to some bug with the network disconnecting then reconnecting, not the Luxman. Though I may be wrong - I haven't used the aurender with another dac. Adding the Regan doesn't seem to effect the connection or these occasional freezes in any way. I'm running the Aurender conductor software from a iPad wirelessly to my network. The aurender is connected to the routed by a 20 foot generic ethernet cable. Router is Asus RT AC68u. Not sure if this helps, or answers your question. Could you describe the exact problem you're experiencing??
 
Hello, thanks for reporting the results. I would add to the queue an album of the same sample rate, say 44.1 CD quality. I would then press play. The DAC would click and then lock onto the signal. I would then press the skip forward button. The DAC would click and then lock onto the signal. Press skip forward again would produce the same results. Whether I would press skip forward/back the DAC would click and then lock onto the signal. It would do this anytime the queue is playing the same sample rate, PCM or DSD. Obviously the DAC will click when the same rate changes that is part of the design with the use of the relay.
 
If you have a playlist all of a single sampling rate and just let it play (like an album for example), does the Luxman's relay click between tracks or only when actively skipping tracks?
 
My experience is identical to yours: the relay clicks when skipping tracks, not when left to play by itself in order. Does this happen with other DACs and the Aurender?
 
Hello
Thanks for confirming the behavior. I have not tried it with other DACs. I did try an Auralic Aeries with the DA-06 and it did the same thing. I believe the issue is two fold - the Aurender/Auralic run a Linux OS and the DA-06 does not officially support Linux.
 
Wonder if anyone has compared the USB input with SPDIF on the luxman?? Are there any sonic differences. I've heard that SPDIF is better, though have no experience. This might lead me to get a converter, or upgrade to the N10.
 
I have ditched USB audio. I find the combination of my DA-06 and Simaudio MiND 180 much more musical than my DA-06 mated with a Mac Mini/Aurender/Auralic Aeries. The MiND 180 connects to the DA-06 using the AES digital connection. This is the one Simaudio recommends for the best sound.
 
gsam said:
My experience is identical to yours: the relay clicks when skipping tracks, not when left to play by itself in order. Does this happen with other DACs and the Aurender?
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Just received an email from Aurender support indicating they have a potential fix for the clicking issue when skipping DSD tracks in the queue. You might want to reach out to them to test it out.
 
Hello
I am curious if anyone has tried the latest Aurender firmware to see if it has fixed the issue with the Luxman relay clicking when skipping tracks in the queue that are all DSD files?
Thank you.
 
anyone can confirm that the N10 will work properly with the Luxman D06u?
i will connecting the USB output to the Luxman for hearing DSD files
and COAX to a Metronome C8 for PCM...
did the problem accord with the N10 also or just the lower models?
 
From my understanding the issue was with the firmware and not the hardware. The latest firmware resolved the issue between my N100H and DA-06. Here is a reply from Aurender support I got back in July 2016:

"Based on Eric’s work with Audio Salon with the DA-06 and the release of the new firmware back in February of this year, the DA-06 should be compatible without any problems with Aurender."
 
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