Atlantic DAC - Incoming
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alex
i used a mobile phone so was quick, cutting corners. i should have typed "wrong" in quotes, as of course that is what i meant.
as the saying goes: " a man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still". still, its always best to keep an open mind and allow for surprises in life.
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norman
i used a mobile phone so was quick, cutting corners. i should have typed "wrong" in quotes, as of course that is what i meant.
as the saying goes: " a man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still". still, its always best to keep an open mind and allow for surprises in life.
cheers
norman
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Came across this comment in this review https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2016/09/03/review-lampizator-atlantic-dac/[FONT="]
"Being upfront, the Atlantic is a step back from the Bricasti M1SE, but that is the class leader in that regard, and also happens to be considerably more expensive than the Atlantic."[/FONT]
Interesting. I didn't realize there was an SE version to the Briscati--sounds like it's quite good, can't argue with Scott's ears having never heard it. But at a little over double the cost of the stock Atlantic Scott has, I can't help but wonder how an Atlantic Plus or Golden Atlantic would have compared.
I hope you realize that this quote was in reference to one specific attribute of the Bricasti vs Atlantic, and not an overall comparison. He was talking about pure detail retrieval in that sentence/paragraph, and he doesn't mention the Bricasti in any other part of the listening results section of the review, or in the overall conclusions.
But yeah, I completely agree with Gopher's question about where comparisons would lead if talking about Golden Atlantic.
But yeah, I completely agree with Gopher's question about where comparisons would lead if talking about Golden Atlantic.
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Is anybody using Stillpoints or Nordost Sortkones with their Atlantic? Results?
I have some used Shun Mooks, but did not do much A/B testing.
Many people with other Lampis use StarSound Sistrum Apprentice platforms, La Dolce Vita uses HRS footers/platform and I used to use Black Ravioli with good effect. Audiocrack uses Halcyonix platforms.
I have not had great luck experimenting with various footers under our equipment. Sistrum has been an exception, but generally speaking I haven't found the changes they bring to be for the better. This is just my opinion based on limited experience.
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I found the roller balls working well under my GG and my friends GA
And they come with the units anyways :congrats:
And they come with the units anyways :congrats:
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I've found that footers can have a significant effect under electronics and speakers.
But allot of the passive cones, wood blocks etc, have had little to no effect in my system.
However, Stillpoints can definitely affect overall presentation, sometimes good, sometimes not. In my system, the Ultra SS under the Volti Alura speakers and Acoustic Solid turntable has proven to clarify the entire frequency range, especially the low frequencies. But used under the Atlantic, Air Tight preamp, Esoteric CD and Phonopre the higher frequencies became more defined to a point of harshness. So I ended up with a combination of Ultra Minis and Teo Audio Diamond Dampers -the combination of disparate, I admit, but efficacious solutions. Everyones system and personal preferences is different. But I might suggest, despite the manufacturers recommendations, that experimenting with placement and products might yield satisfying results. After amassing a drawer filled with footers, I've come to a final state.
The Atlantic has four footers. 2 Ultra Mini in the rear, 2 Teo Audio under the front footer.
PS: Once again all of our rigs function under such different conditions. In my case, a 100 year old house with a suspended floor, a solid maple rack with the turntable and BorderPatrol amp under Gingko platforms... so you can see, I've dedicated some effort in vibration control...
I've found that footers can have a significant effect under electronics and speakers.
But allot of the passive cones, wood blocks etc, have had little to no effect in my system.
However, Stillpoints can definitely affect overall presentation, sometimes good, sometimes not. In my system, the Ultra SS under the Volti Alura speakers and Acoustic Solid turntable has proven to clarify the entire frequency range, especially the low frequencies. But used under the Atlantic, Air Tight preamp, Esoteric CD and Phonopre the higher frequencies became more defined to a point of harshness. So I ended up with a combination of Ultra Minis and Teo Audio Diamond Dampers -the combination of disparate, I admit, but efficacious solutions. Everyones system and personal preferences is different. But I might suggest, despite the manufacturers recommendations, that experimenting with placement and products might yield satisfying results. After amassing a drawer filled with footers, I've come to a final state.
The Atlantic has four footers. 2 Ultra Mini in the rear, 2 Teo Audio under the front footer.
PS: Once again all of our rigs function under such different conditions. In my case, a 100 year old house with a suspended floor, a solid maple rack with the turntable and BorderPatrol amp under Gingko platforms... so you can see, I've dedicated some effort in vibration control...
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I use Stillpoints Ultra 6 (3 of them) under my Golden Gate. To my ears they take the Golden Gate to an unprecedented level
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I have always found Stillpoints harsher in the higher frequencies, drier in the midrange. I preferred Shun Mook diamond resonators much more to them.
I thought you used HRS isolation platforms. My bad.
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So I got my A+ today, courtesy of Our Man Mike (presently "of Munich").
First impressions were a little underwhelming because I just wasn't in the mood to listen to music, even though I was excited to test a new device. (I'm sure we've all been in that situation.) I also had only mediocre IC's, since all of my good ones are balanced. So at first I mostly noticed the tube sound and good resolution (but not as much as my PS Audio DS).
Then several things happened. First (and most importantly) my mood improved and I was relaxed enough to be transported by music. Then my wife took our kids to the movies. Then Mark Jones dropped by with a pair of single-ended Nordost Frey ICs. I can't stress enough how much the Nordost IC's changed things. Now the resolution gap is unremarkable, IF it exists. Instead of noticing tubes (with Blue Jeans ICs the high frequencies sounded soft), I'm left breathless by the energy and coherence of the presentation. Terrific imaging and incredibly stable soundstage. Plenty of "grunt" from the S3 Mk2s. The only thing I'm missing is the sexy copper case that comes with the AG, and I would definitely have sprung for it had Mike not offered me instant gratification with the A+.
I've been listening mostly to DSD, so I won't comment on the PCM R2R engine. This is a very high resolution, very musical DAC. I'm enjoying my digital again. So thank you Lukasz, Munich Mike, and (of course) Mark Jones.
P.S. For North American sharks: the bass is ALL there.
First impressions were a little underwhelming because I just wasn't in the mood to listen to music, even though I was excited to test a new device. (I'm sure we've all been in that situation.) I also had only mediocre IC's, since all of my good ones are balanced. So at first I mostly noticed the tube sound and good resolution (but not as much as my PS Audio DS).
Then several things happened. First (and most importantly) my mood improved and I was relaxed enough to be transported by music. Then my wife took our kids to the movies. Then Mark Jones dropped by with a pair of single-ended Nordost Frey ICs. I can't stress enough how much the Nordost IC's changed things. Now the resolution gap is unremarkable, IF it exists. Instead of noticing tubes (with Blue Jeans ICs the high frequencies sounded soft), I'm left breathless by the energy and coherence of the presentation. Terrific imaging and incredibly stable soundstage. Plenty of "grunt" from the S3 Mk2s. The only thing I'm missing is the sexy copper case that comes with the AG, and I would definitely have sprung for it had Mike not offered me instant gratification with the A+.
I've been listening mostly to DSD, so I won't comment on the PCM R2R engine. This is a very high resolution, very musical DAC. I'm enjoying my digital again. So thank you Lukasz, Munich Mike, and (of course) Mark Jones.
P.S. For North American sharks: the bass is ALL there.
La Dolce Vita
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No, you are right. I have the Ultra 6 under the GG on HRS isolation bases resting on HRS rack
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I use Daedalus DID's footers under all my equipment. Also, it's worth experimenting with ceramic vs steel bearings in them. In addition, a local buddy has made a range of alternate wood pucks for the upper portion of the DID's - various hardwoods. My universal favorite is mesquite. But the stock versions Daedalus sells are quite good on their own - it's just that with bearings and different tone woods you can tweak the overall sound nicely.
I also have recently found interesting results with DIY Shun Mooks ebony pucks on top of the B7 chassis. The same local buddy lent me a dozen of these months and months ago, but I didn't believe in them - so they just sat there for months. He came over for a session last week, and we decided to play with them. I'll be damned if they didn't have a fairly clear effect once we were listening carefully to familiar music.
I also have recently found interesting results with DIY Shun Mooks ebony pucks on top of the B7 chassis. The same local buddy lent me a dozen of these months and months ago, but I didn't believe in them - so they just sat there for months. He came over for a session last week, and we decided to play with them. I'll be damned if they didn't have a fairly clear effect once we were listening carefully to familiar music.
A little tip: The GA is more than just the A+ with a copper case. My pal in Liechtenstein had a Demo A+ for a few weeks while he waited for the GA to be built. He was happy to have the GA be the A+ with a copper case as he LOVED the A=. Within 30 secs of getting the GA, he was blown away. He was unprepared for the uptick in performance...
From Lukasz FB page on Mac DSD upsampling:
FINALLY !!! After years of birthpains and developments, Good news: Audirvana on MAC in it's new revision 3 has album artwork, cool new GUI, and upsampling to DSD that works like a charm !!! Perfect. Easy. Cheap. even MP3 sounds like master tape on DSD.