ASC or GIK - Opnions Please

Hey Mike, ASC also makes a product called a "cool trap" which is a 1' square with a curved plastic face backed by foam. They make a great diffuser and the small size makes them easy to place and tweak. In my room, I arranged them under a window opposite a spot where the other side of the room widened by 4', and I also placed them at reflection points. The ones arranged in a grid completely killed the slap echo in that part of the room - from a long 1-2 second delay to none. And in the grid pattern they don't suck up the sound and kill the livelyness. (you can see the MSR SpringTraps in the corner - I used two pairs and stacked them 'cause its a reasonable sized room) (and forgive that crappy torchier lamp, its days are numbered!)

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MSR spring traps are great too. I have 2 pairs on the corners on the front of room. I also like them because they are pressure traps but still wide range of absorption. The only downside is that the front is wood so they cannot be placed too close to seated position or they will reflect sound which could cause an SBIR.
Mike,
Buy quality. Don't buy too much at one time. Measure with a mic as you go. Listen.

You have 4 options at your disposal. All of the above is best: Speaker position, seated position, treatments and DSP.

Bobvin said:
Hey Mike, ASC also makes a product called a "cool trap" which is a 1' square with a curved plastic face backed by foam. They make a great diffuser and the small size makes them easy to place and tweak. In my room, I arranged them under a window opposite a spot where the other side of the room widened by 4', and I also placed them at reflection points. The ones arranged in a grid completely killed the slap echo in that part of the room - from a long 1-2 second delay to none. And in the grid pattern they don't suck up the sound and kill the livelyness. (you can see the MSR SpringTraps in the corner - I used two pairs and stacked them 'cause its a reasonable sized room) (and forgive that crappy torchier lamp, its days are numbered!)

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I've had good experience, advice/support from the following suppliers: GIK Acoustics, Vicoustic (Acoustic Frontiers) and most recently SRL Acoustics. I've found that all these suppliers have their strong points in terms of quality and price/performance benefits. Give Brian Pape @ GIK, Niall @ Acoustic Frontiers and Allen @ SRL a call and decide what will work best in your room. YMMV.....
 
Wow what a great thread. As the owner of GIK it is good to hear feedback.
As far as fit and finish this has been something we have been working on for the last few years. Just as of late last year we did a total redesign of the panels (now a patent pending) and also redesigned the Tri Trap to have much smoother corners.

Needless to say I am new to this board and hope to be able to help with any kind of acoustic questions you might all have.
 
Glenn Kuras said:
Wow what a great thread. As the owner of GIK it is good to hear feedback.
As far as fit and finish this has been something we have been working on for the last few years. Just as of late last year we did a total redesign of the panels (now a patent pending) and also redesigned the Tri Trap to have much smoother corners.

Needless to say I am new to this board and hope to be able to help with any kind of acoustic questions you might all have.
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Welcome Glenn. You and I have spoken before (about a year ago), when I was trying to treat my (found out later) un-treatable room. I got a couple of your panels and have no complaints. I'm sure they work, just not dramatically in my room which is the fault of the room. I think you offer good value in both product and service. Your engineer is great, he offered many lower-cost suggestions instead of just recommending a multi thousand dollar treatment set up just to take the lazy way out and stayed in focus in suggestions and advice. My room can only handle a couple of panels behind the sofa (which I did purchase from you). A quantity of two base traps were also suggested, but the room is round without being round, so there is really no place to put them and they would have no effect anyway. It's just an unfortunate place I live in. It's a waste of money trying to treat the room I have, so I just have to live with it for now and rely on the adaptive abilities of my speakers and any room correction software on-board the receiver. (I'm upgrading that by the way soon so I'll go from Audessy MultiEQ XT to MultiEQ XT32+pro ability or equivalent).
Hopefully my next place (whenever that may be) will be more accommodating. (Wall to wall carpet would be a good start).
 
Glenn - I have a big bump at 78hz. Any thoughts? My room is fully treated, including traps.

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Thanks guys for the kind words. ;)

Glenn - I have a big bump at 78hz. Any thoughts? My room is fully treated, including traps.
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I would play 78hz through your speakers see if it gets stronger or softer as you walk for the front of the room to the back. If it does, then I would say it is coming off the back wall, which you would want to treat and maybe move your seating spot. You say you have bass trapping, but I don't see any in the pictures, nor do I see what is on the back wall. BTW it may be coming from the ceiling or side walls, which you can check by walking the width and moving your head up and down.
Do you have a waterfall graph you can post?
 
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