April 2017 - TAS - Guest Editorial

Mike said:
You've proven my point. The ripping is/was a PITA. Anyway, there is no doubt stand alone DAC technology has inched ahead of the best of breed CD/SACD technology in some respects and Tidal is making the argument to buy a CD ever again a thing of the past. Ditto for MQA.
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Well, I couldn't rip them right away because I had a process/method that I needed to go through, to rip thousands of CDs! Byt yeah, CD ripping is indeed a PITA, you won't get disagreement from me, specially when you have to rip thousands of the damn things!
I did have a CD transport at the time, so I really didn't need to rip them. I'd open a CD, listen on the transport, and once done, rip and file. With no CD transport, it would've meant 10-15 mins more I guess...
 
I finally had time to read Robert's rebuttal (well, in sorts) to JV's editorial. I was surprised by his conclusion. Robert, the strong digital proponent concluded:

"As much as I appreciate music sourced from computer technology, when it comes to enjoying the ultimate listening experience, to feeling a frisson of realism that makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up, to having the illusion of being transported through time to the same room with the musicians, to experiencing seemingly contemporaneous music making, a music server is simply no match for a great turntable playing an LP."
- Robert Harley, The Absolute Sound, May/June 2017.

Like JV, Robert did lay out many benefits of digital and in particular streaming music from Tidal (discovering new artists or even discovering a body of work by a past artist).

With world class analog and digital at our finger tips, it sure is a good time to be an audiophile. :audiophile:
 
asiufy said:
Well, I couldn't rip them right away because I had a process/method that I needed to go through, to rip thousands of CDs! Byt yeah, CD ripping is indeed a PITA, you won't get disagreement from me, specially when you have to rip thousands of the damn things!
I did have a CD transport at the time, so I really didn't need to rip them. I'd open a CD, listen on the transport, and once done, rip and file. With no CD transport, it would've meant 10-15 mins more I guess...
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what you need is the Kodak 50 disc CD loader. it was developed for photo shops to process their photos. I can load 50 CD's and rip them auto-magically. takes about 3 hours. 2 years ago I did 2500 of my 3500 CD's over a few months of work. set them up in the morning before work, then do another batch at night, sometimes 3-4 batches on the weekends. I did get tired of that and took a break. I was a PITA to co-ordinate the CD cases in order, stack them, and re-load the cases but I got a system down pretty good.

I keep meaning to finish the job.

I would go (more) nuts doing them one at a time.

'google' Kodak 50 disc loader for info.
 
I agree

I't s process. I didn't have the loader, but I did 5-10 a day - I'd put one in and go do something for a while. When it was convienent I'd do another one. No hurry, but after a while (9 months) I got all of my CD's ripped.

I did all of my DVD's (1,000 ish) the same way during the same time period.

Mike Lavigne said:
what you need is the Kodak 50 disc CD loader. it was developed for photo shops to process their photos. I can load 50 CD's and rip them auto-magically. takes about 3 hours. 2 years ago I did 2500 of my 3500 CD's over a few months of work. set them up in the morning before work, then do another batch at night, sometimes 3-4 batches on the weekends. I did get tired of that and took a break. I was a PITA to co-ordinate the CD cases in order, stack them, and re-load the cases but I got a system down pretty good.

I keep meaning to finish the job.

I would go (more) nuts doing them one at a time.

'google' Kodak 50 disc loader for info.
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Mike Lavigne said:
what you need is the Kodak 50 disc CD loader. it was developed for photo shops to process their photos. I can load 50 CD's and rip them auto-magically. takes about 3 hours. 2 years ago I did 2500 of my 3500 CD's over a few months of work. set them up in the morning before work, then do another batch at night, sometimes 3-4 batches on the weekends. I did get tired of that and took a break. I was a PITA to co-ordinate the CD cases in order, stack them, and re-load the cases but I got a system down pretty good.

I keep meaning to finish the job.

I would go (more) nuts doing them one at a time.

'google' Kodak 50 disc loader for info.
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Mike,

Thanks for the tip! I wish this was available to me back when I started, because now I've already ripped all my (9000+) CDs! Took many, many years, and of course, I had to start all over again once it became clear that lossless was the way to go, but now it's done! Now there's only a handful that I keep finding that's still not on the server, but the majority is there already...
I was literally ripping CDs all day, every day, on automatic. Pop the CD in, click click, off it goes... CD would pop out, insert new one, repeat ad nauseam :)


cheers,
alex
 
Devg said:
+++1

The proliferation of these USB audio gadgets and their power supply has become unspeakable - I just can't imagine how painstaking it is for someone to do a permutation/combination of these devices to find out what sounds best. I did go through these ordeal at one point though and my music room looked more of a lab than anything else; I remember at one point I ran of outlets of my audience power conditioner :)
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Mmm not all USB gadgets are so terrible. The Audioquest Dragonfly Red paired with some nice cans like Hifiman Edition X V2's, PAD or Siltech headphone cables & playing high res files via J River makes for good sound when you're on your laptop :audiophile:.
 
nicoff said:
No wonder CD players are going extinct! :)
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I think SACD players are heading down that road, but I think there is still a market niche for RBCD players as long as cd's are still in mass production, and transport mechs are still available. True, Phillips no longer manufacture the CD Pro 2 LF transport. But some high end manufacturers still have plentiful stock, and other manufacturers are still producing high end mechs.

Personally I love my Vitus SCD-025 Mk2 and SIA-025 integrated. That pairing sounds very un-digital and analogue-like in terms of the resolution pulled off the disc, musical 'flow', body of images & harmonic richness. It's strong psu's also provide good bass and add to the solid, live sound. Playing DXD or XRCD24's on that player sounds eerily real.
 
to asiufy! please send me a note of CD's for sale! especially interested in old classical CD's, like berlin philharmonic, Jascha Heifez, etc. bob.
 
Old Bob said:
to asiufy! please send me a note of CD's for sale! especially interested in old classical CD's, like berlin philharmonic, Jascha Heifez, etc. bob.
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keep this under the radar, since it is technically illegal (doesn't bother me, but does bother some people)
 
sorry! had no idea. I did try to send a private= message, was unable.

thanks. and sorry!
 
rbbert said:
keep this under the radar, since it is technically illegal (doesn't bother me, but does bother some people)
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Not sure its a big deal, there are LP's and CD' being sold for cents at garage sells and large flea markets across this country and I've never seen anyone arrested, heck I've even see police buying CD's.
 
CPP said:
Not sure its a big deal, there are LP's and CD' being sold for cents at garage sells and large flea markets across this country and I've never seen anyone arrested, heck I've even see police buying CD's.
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In reference to rbbert I think he meant ripping it to your library then reselling would be illegal. The artist is not getting paid for someone using their music.

If you just sell the LP or CD without recording I would agree nothing wrong.
 
Mike said:
You've proven my point. The ripping is/was a PITA. Anyway, there is no doubt stand alone DAC technology has inched ahead of the best of breed CD/SACD technology in some respects and Tidal is making the argument to buy a CD ever again a thing of the past. Ditto for MQA.


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I have something under half my music collection ripped, that already takes up about 8 TB, and what's left has too much unofficial (unreleased) stuff to be able to easily ripped, because it would all have to be manually tagged. So I'll most likely have a disc player of some kind for the rest of my life.
 
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