Anyone hear the Auditorium 23 Hommage Cinema?

mep said:
If you haven't read this yet, you might want to:

https://www.stereophile.com/content/auditorium-23-hommage-cinema-loudspeaker

Not much highs above 9 kHz. Average impedance is really around 15 ohms which means you would need a tube amp with 16 ohm output taps.
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Yes, I was surprised when I heard them the first time that it didn't bother me as I had read the review/measurements several times prior. I was told that there is so much more HF information due to the high efficiency design of the horn tweeter (102dbs with extremely thin paper diaphragms) that the extension isn't the critical factor. Under a full audition (I originally stopped by to see my dealer's new store), there will be more tracks to flesh this out.

Conversely, I heard some Branko Audio speakers at the LA show (redone VOTTs with bass cabs) and it was pretty obvious the roll off. As with Shindo speakers based on Altec Valencias that lack some "air" ime.
 
By the way Keith, how loud were you listening to RR’s 4-5 war horse LPs that he brings to everyone’s house? I have the Ref 75 and I have never seen the meters close to 35 watts. And those meters are measuring average power and not peak power.
 
AJ Soundfield said:
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Now I know where the term originated.
Garbage in---Garbage Out
 
mep said:
... As for the "Does it really Matter?" comment, it matters to the dealers that are taking the time setting up a system for you to hear. Time is money.
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Although from some reports it sounds as if many dealers aren't doing as much as they could for Keith (e.g., speakers not broken in, less-than-ideal electronics, mediocre listening room set-up, etc).

I think Keith is serious about potentially spending $50-$60 on new speakers. I'm a bit skeptical that he will find what he wants (i.e., a significant upgrade from his DeVores, for his musical and audio tastes) in that price range.
 
mep said:
By the way Keith, how loud were you listening to RR’s 4-5 war horse LPs that he brings to everyone’s house? I have the Ref 75 and I have never seen the meters close to 35 watts. And those meters are measuring average power and not peak power.
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loud- like 100dbs+. His Bill Henderson cut hit 30 watts once or twice
 
KeithR said:
loud- like 100dbs+. His Bill Henderson cut hit 30 watts once or twice
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OK. Your post #3 on RR's visit to your house said "My 92dB speakers were pulling 30+ watts like crazy on them-extremely unusual."
 
KeithR said:
then I would go with that as it was a few years back.
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I would agree with your last two words in your above statement: "extremely unusual." I still own the NOLA KOs which I still want to sell. They are 91dB 1w/1m and present an 8 ohm nominal load. I drove them for years with my Ref 75 and I never saw the average power climb above 5 watts. My JBL 4345 speakers are 95dB 1w/1m and my average power is less than 2 watts. That's why when I read your statement that your Ref 75 was pulling 30+ watts like crazy on RR's old war horse LPs I was shocked.
 
mep said:
I would agree with your last two words in your above statement: "extremely unusual." I still own the NOLA KOs which I still want to sell. They are 91dB 1w/1m and present an 8 ohm nominal load. I drove them for years with my Ref 75 and I never saw the average power climb above 5 watts. My JBL 4345 speakers are 95dB 1w/1m and my average power is less than 2 watts. That's why when I read your statement that your Ref 75 was pulling 30+ watts like crazy on RR's old war horse LPs I was shocked.
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Here's the record, check it out:

"Send in the Clowns" by Bill Henderson, Live at the Times (Jazz Planet Records/Classic Records)

At home, I get to 15 watts on really loud stuff on rare occasion. Our speakers sound similarly efficient - mine are 8ohms, 7.5 minimum.
 
KeithR said:
Here's the record, check it out:

"Send in the Clowns" by Bill Henderson, Live at the Times (Jazz Planet Records/Classic Records)

At home, I get to 15 watts on really loud stuff on rare occasion. Our speakers sound similarly efficient - mine are 8ohms, 7.5 minimum.
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They are similar with regards to sensitivity, but I think that’s where the similarity ends.
 
AJ Soundfield said:
Measured/real sensitivity can be substantially lower, as Stereophile occasionally reveals. Occams razor.
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True. Keith’s speakers are slightly less sensitive than their rated sensitivity according to JA’s measurements.
 
I'd be doubly particular in listening/auditioning to the Speakers with Shindo front end--you may not concur with the warmish slightly Syrupy but very smooth sonics.

Just my opinion as an aforementioned previous Shindo owner

Could be a dose of too much languidness together?

YVMV

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