Anyone dumping their power conditiner?

[CPP]

We have a 48" Zub that is on a marble floor with 2 x 12's 12" OC. It also sits on the center carrying beam the joists sit on. They are beasts but I have never had a fridge that kept fresh vegetables fresh as long as this does.

On the electrical end, ours is on a different 200 amp panel as my music room. Both panels are fed on separate breakers from the meter panel. Do you think that same pollution carry back to the meter housing mains and into the second electrical panel?

We love ours, Model number BI-36UFDID/S. And the fridge is connected per its installation instructions to a dedicated 15amp circuit. Setting on a concrete slab floor, over tile. OH, no noise bleed over, no power strip, no power conditioners, no fancy power cords.

 

[SCAudiophile]

You can clearly hear music at “1” through my system. My speakers are 95dB 1w/1m and they jump right to life. I have no noise issues regardless of the time of day.

If you have your Sub Zero plugged into a power strip and your house burns down because of it, will your insurance cover your loss? I doubt the NEC ever anticipated someone plugging a very large appliance into anything but a wall outlet or the NEC has code requirements for what can be plugged into a power strip. I wouldn’t be surprised if the NEC specified what the minimum amperage required for a refrigerator circuit is which would include the breaker rating and wire gauge.

During a house renovation I ran into this question back in 2012 when the contractor and the electrician were gutting the kitchen, took an oversize refrigerator/freezer that had arrived early
and rolled it out of kitchen into an adjoining room; connected it with a power distributor + extension cord combo to a 20-amp circuit in that room; naturally I questioned this and was told it was all within code much to my surprise.

From a direct quotation on a electrician-moderated forum I found (Mike Holt's and others) and also reading through NEC codes to double-check;

It's 15 amps per NEC code....there is a rule that says that every receptacle that serves a kitchen countertop has to be on a 20 amp "small appliance branch circuit and if near a water line, must be a 20-amp GFI" BUT that rule has an exception that allows a household fridge to be on its own dedicated 15 amp circuit. That is an "it is OK" kind of rule, not a "it must be done this way" kind of rule. Section 110.3(B) requires that the listing and labeling instructions for a listed product also. be followed. So if the installation instructions for the fridge require a dedicated 20-amp branch circuit it could be deemed a requirement.

I would suggest looking for the phrase "small appliance branch circuit," somewhere around article 210.11 (or it might be 210.52).

Though not advisable, if a power distributor strip of sufficient capacity was used equal to the above and it is 3-pin ground complete. from the wall the appliance attach point, it would technically not be out of code.

I'd politely suggest we lighten up the mood on these threads and not pounce on others, least of all based on assumptions not facts.

 

[mep]

During a house renovation I ran into this question back in 2012 when the contractor and the electrician were gutting the kitchen, took an oversize refrigerator/freezer that had arrived early
and rolled it out of kitchen into an adjoining room; connected it with a power distributor + extension cord combo to a 20-amp circuit in that room; naturally I questioned this and was told it was all within code much to my surprise.

From a direct quotation on a electrician-moderated forum I found (Mike Holt's and others) and also reading through NEC codes to double-check;

It's 15 amps per NEC code....there is a rule that says that every receptacle that serves a kitchen countertop has to be on a 20 amp "small appliance branch circuit and if near a water line, must be a 20-amp GFI" BUT that rule has an exception that allows a household fridge to be on its own dedicated 15 amp circuit. That is an "it is OK" kind of rule, not a "it must be done this way" kind of rule. Section 110.3(B) requires that the listing and labeling instructions for a listed product also. be followed. So if the installation instructions for the fridge require a dedicated 20-amp branch circuit it could be deemed a requirement.

I would suggest looking for the phrase "small appliance branch circuit," somewhere around article 210.11 (or it might be 210.52).

Though not advisable, if a power distributor strip of sufficient capacity was used equal to the above and it is 3-pin ground complete. from the wall the appliance attach point, it would technically not be out of code.

I'd politely suggest we lighten up the mood on these threads and not pounce on others, least of all based on assumptions not facts.

I think that's pretty clear. As a legal CYA, I'm sure every refrigerator's owner's/installation manual specifies the power requirements for the wall outlet that will power their refrigerator. So if Section 110.3(B) requires that the listing and labeling instructions for a listed product also be followed, that is not a "could be deemed a requirement."

 

[SCAudiophile]

I think that's pretty clear. As a legal CYA, I'm sure every refrigerator's owner's/installation manual specifies the power requirements for the wall outlet that will power their refrigerator. So if Section 110.3(B) requires that the listing and labeling instructions for a listed product also be followed, that is not a "could be deemed a requirement."

Yes, of course, you are more correct than I was when I wrote that. Have a very nice day and enjoy that great system!

 

[CPP]

I think that's pretty clear. As a legal CYA, I'm sure every refrigerator's owner's/installation manual specifies the power requirements for the wall outlet that will power their refrigerator. So if Section 110.3(B) requires that the listing and labeling instructions for a listed product also be followed, that is not a "could be deemed a requirement."

Sub Zero differently states it in their installation instructions. Dedicated circuit