Analog Rantings

Hiker said:
I switched from analog to digital but never thought of myself as a clown.
I like the ease, convenience, and sound quality of digital and it is where I am investing my time and money. I don't think I am alone.
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I missed your post. No, you are certainly not alone in your quest to higher ground and simplicity of life. I too transpired from analog to digital.
And you are certainly not a clown either, and neither am I.
 
Dpod4 said:
If I wanted to have digital that sounded like high end vinyl, what dac does everyone recommend. Need detail, big soundstage but organic you-are-there absence of electronic sheen
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Loving the sound of your new vinyl huh Darin? :). Well, then you don't want a DAC. A Lumin or Linn network player - both are much more than just a DAC. Sonically, the Lumin to me is as good as it gets for sounding analog, and particularly vinyl like sounding. Read Chris C's review on ComputerAudiophile.com if you want another opinion. There are other Lumin reviews. PM me if you're interested in jumping in on the group buy on one.

If you must have a DAC, then EAR DACute 4.
 
Mike said:
Loving the sound of your new vinyl huh Darin? :). Well, then you don't want a DAC. A Lumin or Linn network player - both are much more than just a DAC. Sonically, the Lumin to me is as good as it gets for sounding analog, and particularly vinyl like sounding. Read Chris C's review on ComputerAudiophile.com if you want another opinion. There are other Lumin reviews. PM me if you're interested in jumping in on the group buy on one.

If you must have a DAC, then EAR DACute 4.
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Hey Mike, I would get this for my second system for my place in Bend where I don't have vinyl (wifey lets me have 3 tables in dedicated listening room at home but not in family room there). Currently source there is Perfect Wave DAC II with bridge which is awesome but doesn't play dsd and doesn't reach the level of vinyl.

I still doubt anything rivals the best vinyl. Just like digital photography versus film. Close but something organically right about vinyl. And the process of removing the vinyl from the sleeve, cueing the lever, etc makes it an experience. All in. I rarely listen to my ModWright 5400es and it is the closest to analogue I have yet heard.
 
Lumin. Your wife will love the simplicity of the Lumin app on the iPad. And it does DSD natively and sounds amazing.
 
Dpod4 said:
Hey Mike, I would get this for my second system for my place in Bend where I don't have vinyl (wifey lets me have 3 tables in dedicated listening room at home but not in family room there). Currently source there is Perfect Wave DAC II with bridge which is awesome but doesn't play dsd and doesn't reach the level of vinyl.

I still doubt anything rivals the best vinyl. Just like digital photography versus film. Close but something organically right about vinyl. And the process of removing the vinyl from the sleeve, cueing the lever, etc makes it an experience. All in. I rarely listen to my ModWright 5400es and it is the closest to analogue I have yet heard.
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Analog 70mm film (65mm too) is great (the master). But! If you scan that master tape digitally to 8K or 4K, all the copies you'll get will be perfect for generations to come and without any degradation whatsoever. And that would also be the most faithful representation of what the cineaste (movie director and cameraman) intended to fully capture on that 70mm pellicule in the very first place. The telecine of the film's scanning at high resolution (4k & 8K high definition) will be impeccably beautiful; revealing amazing details and accurate colors and lights. It is simply naturally and digitally wonderful!

In audio, what do you think? ...The best film soundtracks by the best music composers are digitally recorded, transferred, mixed, and reproduced.

Just sayin'.
 
NorthStar said:
Analog 70mm film (65mm too) is great (the master). But! If you scan that master tape digitally to 8K or 4K, all the copies you'll get will be perfect for generations to come and without any degradation whatsoever. And that would also be the most faithful representation of what the cineaste (movie director and cameraman) intended to fully capture on that 70mm pellicule in the very first place. The telecine of the film's scanning at high resolution (4k & 8K high definition) will be impeccably beautiful; revealing amazing details and accurate colors and lights. It is simply naturally and digitally wonderful!

In audio, what do you think? ...The best film soundtracks by the best music composers are digitally recorded, transferred, mixed, and reproduced.

Just sayin'.
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I was thinking still film. Eg my medium format mamiya camera still creates more beautiful pix than any digital camera. Resolution is not the full story.
 
Never gave up my records. Digital is a convenience (and they sound has gotten mighty good) but it doesn not replace the joy I get playing a record.
 
I still have my vinyl collection from forty years ago and my boxes of 45s from the 60s…..always had a turntable. I love my server and DAC, but it never was as much fun as vinyl….for me.
 
In the last 45 years I have never been without a turntable. My first love started there and I never truly gave in up on her, thru this day. I simply didn't expand the way some other people do, that's all.

* I don't remember exactly what this thread is about.
 
hahaha!!!! i agree with the point of this thread. when i was younger i had vinyl. i was hard headed and thought to be "old school " for not having a cd player in the 80's.i remember my only real audiophile friend calling me in the mid 80's and telling me how he changed his whole music library over to cd and i was stupid if i didnt get on the wagon. after that i was too busy running around the country to have a house music system. when i finally settled down in the late 90's and started to put together a music system again, there was no other way for me to go. i went right back to a turntable and found vpi. for me its always been the right choice. i would love to try good digital. i have nothing against anything anyone listens to. just let me know when digital stops changing the "new thing" every month and finds itself. i may give it a try. right now whats new and exciting this month is outdated next month. kinda like the gateway 166xl computer i paid $4800 for in the mid 90's. 166mh!!!!!! wow!!!
oh btw my friend who called in the 80's and said i gotta get on the cd wagon, is also the guy who helped me purchase and put together my first real analog setup, and when i lost touch with him in early 2000's he was all about tubes and vinyl!!!!
 
NorthStar said:
Living in a physical world is like making love to a real woman, and not a plastic clone that they make and sell in some parts of the world. ...There's something physically natural/attractive about a turntable and an LP you spin on it.
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Well said!
 
Petro85 said:
hahaha!!!! i agree with the point of this thread. when i was younger i had vinyl. i was hard headed and thought to be "old school " for not having a cd player in the 80's.i remember my only real audiophile friend calling me in the mid 80's and telling me how he changed his whole music library over to cd and i was stupid if i didnt get on the wagon.
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I can relate. I think I finally got my first CD player (Cal Labs DX2) in the early 90's.
 
On a side angle....my mom and I are avid antique collectors/hunters. We love going through antique malls (the larger the better)....and guess what?? We see many and I mean MANY booths with LP's. NOW, I have since learned to basically glance at booths with LP's I will spend time in. You can tell those dealers who are bringing the junk from the garage (though I wept at one booth lately where there were quite a few RCA Shaded Dog classical LP's without covers...GRRRRRRR..

Then again, I I also came across booths where the dealer obviously cared for the LP's and had each and every album in a plastic envelope. Those booths whose dealer obviously took care of their LPs will get me to stop and look, though I sure find little classical...

What amuses me the most are the mall owners/managers are shocked at the "re-emergence" of vinyl and I smile and tell them it never went away...LOL

Cheers,
 
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