Alexx

Mike said:
It's completely unbalanced (visually) and likely sonically. No proper treatments except for a few absorption panels behind the listener (where diffusers typically work best). Stuff is everywhere. Brick, glass, everywhere. A sofa and fireplace behind the right speaker and a wall and a door. Christ, the roof isn't even! He has a low ceiling behind the speakers which can create slap echo. His listening position is a chair behind a desk. Seriously? The room is completely unbalanced left and right with respect to any kind of diffusion or absorption. And it's a mess!! Jap said 16.5 hours for setup? I guess that was a start.



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All I will suggest to you is that if you know Maier Shadi, you would know that 16.5 hours reflects his desire for perfection more than it does the room's shortcomings. That's just who Maier is.

As for a visual assesment? I prefer to listen to the room and see what it tells me. Eyes lie - unless they see what the speaker actually sees acoustically. They're typically far from the same thing.
 
Jack said:
If it takes that long to get a speaker to fit or work in a particular room it is the wrong speaker. But if that is the room he has to work with and the Management team at PF is o.k. with him reviewing $110,000 speakers in that environment then at least pick up the clutter. It doesn't need to look like that at least when the photographer was there.
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Well said. A rose among thorns?

Did anyone catch the one comment at the bottom? I laughed out loud.


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metaphacts said:
All I will suggest to you is that if you know Maier Shadi, you would know that 16.5 hours reflects his desire for perfection more than it does the room's shortcomings. That's just who Maier is.

As for a visual assesment? I prefer to listen to the room and see what it tells me. Eyes lie - unless they see what the speaker actually sees acoustically. They're typically far from the same thing.
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++1. Maier is top notch and 10x better than most Wilson dealers even. He and Brian Berdan are often brought to special events and shows just for their setup ability.
 
KeithR said:
Danny has two rooms, and the living room is sunk right after the Wilson room.

Any more questions? He's a good friend of mine and a great guy. His problem child is actually the YG room, not the Wilson one.
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I have ...

Any reason why he keeps his liquor cart by the Front door and whats with his Beetles catalog sitting on the top shelf at an angle, diffusor ...?

BTW , His Threshold was not connected , a shame in some circles ..... :)
 
a.wayne said:
I have ...

Any reason why he keeps his liquor cart by the Front door and whats with his Beetles catalog sitting on the top shelf at an angle, diffusor ...?

BTW , His Threshold was not connected , a shame in some circles ..... :)
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that's actually the back door :)

Threshold needs to be recapped I believe. He definitely should have cleaned up the clutter for the pictures! Like most reviewers, Danny has too much gear.
 
I am continually amazed by our hobby/profession. Room acoustics is HUGE. How can one take any review of a room that is not properly treated seriously? I just don't get it. It's not opinion, its physics. There are many, many opinions on how to treat a room, and most are wanting - colored by opinions freely given online. Well, worth what one was charged! Now I am fully aware that some folks (and studios) have made considerable investments to only end up with rubbish rooms and that is a real shame, but that does not in any way diminish the dramatic effects of a properly done room. I've demonstrated this in two 2-room demonstrations, one at AXPONA and the other at Capital Audio Fest. Excellent reviews from my clients. I just don't understand how it is possible that someone that takes this seriously considers a room "treated" with a few absorption panels nailed to the rear wall. Maybe $30,000.00 for speaker cables and $.30 for acoustics.

Please excuse the rant but there are so many people that have invested considerable effort and expense only to not get the quality of listening they deserve.

Bart
Resolution Acoustics
 
Speaking of Wilson, I read a comment recently that resonated with me: Wilson's bread and butter has always been the Watt/Puppy vs. the bigger speakers

It's kind of like buying a 7-Series from BMW - when they really excel at 3-series sport sedans. Honestly, I find the Alexx in multiple listening sessions (at Maier's in a wonderful, treated room as well as Danny's) not my cup of tea. Perhaps due to the sheer complexity of the speaker.
 
KeithR said:
that's actually the back door :)

Threshold needs to be recapped I believe. He definitely should have cleaned up the clutter for the pictures! Like most reviewers, Danny has too much gear.
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Most get comfortable in their space , been into many skunk works, clutter rooms are common and the sound is always good to great ..:)

Halls have chaotic behavior designed in , necessary for entertaining large bodies of people , their acoustics are bad when empty. in dedicated one person type listening room, acoustic space optimized for one or two will sound dead with many bodies .

Regards
 
MEH review
Why? The reviewer should report on the entire setup process, especially the changes heard durning the movements of the drivers...after all isn't that THE Wilson hallmark???
Not being there for setup....... shame on DK

However the music review portions were great...
 
Kingsrule said:
MEH review
Why? The reviewer should report on the entire setup process, especially the changes heard durning the movements of the drivers...after all isn't that THE Wilson hallmark???
Not being there for setup....... shame on DK

However the music review portions were great...
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I'm somewhat confused.

You start at a given alignment point based on the nomographs. At the end of positioning, you recheck the alignment, again based on the nomographs. If you are in between, you check either side for best alignment.

The easiest way to show how much it matters is to properly position the speaker/align the modules and then break the alignment for comparison.
 
Yet another weighs in .. under show conditions no less

http://www.theaudiobeat.com/ces2017/ces2017_jimmy_awards.htm

"The dCS/Wilson Audio/D’Agostino system scores a JA for Most Emotionally Compelling Presentation at the CES."


"In two decades of covering the CES, I have never heard a system where the speakers weren’t there. Though Nagra’s technology is now available for a king’s ransom, one hopes it will eventually trickle down. achieving a taste of the virtual music (perhaps soon to be accessible to audiophiles everywhere), the Nagra/Wilson system wins a Jimmy Award for the Once and Future Representation of Recorded Music."
 
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metaphacts said:
I'm somewhat confused.

You start at a given alignment point based on the nomographs. At the end of positioning, you recheck the alignment, again based on the nomographs. If you are in between, you check either side for best alignment.

The easiest way to show how much it matters is to properly position the speaker/align the modules and then break the alignment for comparison.
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What happens when you move your head or stand up ...??
 
metaphacts said:
I'm somewhat confused.

You start at a given alignment point based on the nomographs. At the end of positioning, you recheck the alignment, again based on the nomographs. If you are in between, you check either side for best alignment.

The easiest way to show how much it matters is to properly position the speaker/align the modules and then break the alignment for comparison.
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a.wayne said:
What happens when you move your head or stand up ...??
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It would be most instructive to do this listening test yourself.

Show reports and what reviews on Alexx have come out often comment on what happens.

Once the speaker is set up in the room with the modules properly aligned, you're in for quite a surprise if you are expecting things to fall apart.
 
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