Active Speakers - would you consider?

a.wayne said:
Automatic revoke of audiophile license if one cant hear the difference with ClassD , BTW my offer still stands, Bring your class D , I will provide speakers and class A amp ..
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Or bring you Class A amp to the next FLExpo, get ready to be an unlicensed Youtube sensation. ;)
 
I am a total convert to active. I use the Aurender and the ARC Ref 6 on the front end and then a killer active system to bring the music to my ears (and soul). The best of both worlds in my opinion. It is a no-compromise design with dynamics and realism. If you are near Tampa, send me a note. Would love to have you hear them....
 
AJ Soundfield said:
I like when you get all science/technical with us Mr Wayne ;-)


Really? How do you account for the TS parameters of the drivers varying with signal level? What values do you use for your filter network, based on what signal level? Large or small? They can't be the same, so tell us how your fixed filter values account for varying TS.
And what about inductance modulation of your moving coil speaker depending on displacement in the gap?
What about interchannel precision for better imaging properties, can you post some measurements of your passive designs that show better than active interchannel precision?
Btw, this is all purely objective, so looking forward lots of data, in lieu of lots of "words". Thanks!


Terrific, nothing subjective there at all, a purely objective claim. Please present your electrical measurements supporting this rather extraordinary claim Mr Wayne.
Can we presume they are present in your commercial designs that all can hear and judge for themselves?

cheers,

AJ
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Love it when you get all digital and objective with us , i mean your invisible graphs look, well , amazing , you must know a lot , i mean you do say so ..

A pity ..

Regards
 
a.wayne said:
Love it when you get all digital and objective with us , i mean your invisible graphs look, well , amazing , you must know a lot , i mean you do say so ..
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That would be a big nothingburger then. Zero evidence for lots of words. It's cool Mr Wayne, we all knew you were only bluffing. :P
 
a.wayne said:
Give me a chance to go over your graphs , a lot here to absorb ...
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So not even pics of Mr Waynes imaginary speakers with better than active crossovers?

Anyone else here seen or hear them?
We going to need a pic on the side of a milk carton Mr Wayne?
 
a.wayne said:
a.wayne said:
the critical midband-tweeter section is best handled by a good passive xover, active in the bass due to inductor size and losses associated with..
Still a well designed full passive setup speaks with a unity of voicing not matched electrically by a full active /passive setup ..
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Waiting on Guiness , i think a world record on Irony posted here ...!
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Ah, you're blaming you initial specious, fabricated, evidence free claims on excessive Guiness consumption.
Hey you're finally making a bit of sense! bravo. :)

Btw, I'm sure the Large/Small signal thing was way over your head, but if you need some layman links, I can help you.
What modeling programs do you use for your guesswork filter designs in these imaginary speakers of yours?
 
Your actually pretty clueless when it comes to speaker design AJ, anyway ,

Let me know if you are up to the challenge , spewing constant Phoobey dust theories with no measured proof yet demanding such is getting pretty thin ..


Regards
 
a.wayne said:
Your actually pretty clueless when it comes to speaker design AJ, anyway
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Possibly, but at least folks can see and hear them for themselves, no milk carton required.
Yours Mr Wayne?

a.wayne said:
Still a well designed full passive setup speaks with a unity of voicing not matched electrically by a full active /passive setup ..
Let me know if you are up to the challenge
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We're ready for you "matching" electrical evidence Mr Wayne. Go right ahead.
This will be very helpful to answering Mike's question of "Active Speakers - would you consider?"
Mr Wayne?
 
a.wayne said:
Your actually pretty clueless when it comes to speaker design AJ, anyway ,

Let me know if you are up to the challenge , spewing constant Phoobey dust theories with no measured proof yet demanding such is getting pretty thin ..


Regards
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I will reiterate ... :rolleyes:
 
steve59 said:
I sense there's a bit of a pissing contest between you two?.
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Lets just say we know each other. There's no contest. I make speakers you can see, touch and hear.
Mr. Waynes speakers are made by the same folks who make Wonder Womans plane. Good luck hearing them.
He's a bit unhappy with me, because obviously, from his nonsensical statements, he hits the pipe pretty hard and is convinced I stole his stash.
Turns out it was Steve Guttenberg. Just watch his videos and you'll see the similarities (all video frames should have the subtitle "Stoner" flashing). Science/scientific facts or basic logic aren't their thing.
Heck, if I were that baked all the time, it might make some sense.

Now as far as active speakers go, you're not going to see a cogent, rational, scientifically literate argument against. Just the usual nonsense.
Are they for everyone? Of course not. Just look at the variety of brands/systems you see here.
Might they serve the music lover who just wants to hear great sound and not OCD on every form of widget that typically adorns the usual, not really acoustically invisible audiophile shrine? Sure.
It would certainly cut down on the innumerable "what amp X/cable Y/etc." has "synergy" with speaker Z type questions and subsequent engineering free dart board tossing/street rumors/anecdote answers.
Now whether you consider that a good, or bad thing...

cheers,

AJ
 
I just read a review by Jerry Del Colliano of the B&W, here's the conclusion:
Conclusion
Great design paired with fantastic sound makes the Bowers & Wilkins Formation Wedge one of the best compelling single-speaker solution that I've ever heard. Perhaps more importantly, its deft mix of audiophile sound and innovative form factor is exactly the sort of combination we need to appeal to younger and more mainstream consumers and woo them into the love of great sound.

If you are an audiophile in need of a wireless solution, the Bowers & Wilkins Formation is a must-hear product. If you have a young person in your life who you would love to get involved in the art, science, and passion of great sound reproduction, this could also be a $899 well spent.

Make no mistake: this is no normal single wireless speaker. The Bowers & Wilkins Formation Wedge (especially when paired with the Formation Bass) turns your phone, laptop, or tablet into a legitimate starter audiophile system. Bravo. And by the way, B&W: you can't have the review samples back. The check is in the mail as I am keeping this system for my condo and pending new home.

The active speakers are fairly new, I've always had components but would keep an open mind if the application came along. I was really impressed with the active ATC but the price could buy a lot of electronics :)


Mike said:
While in Munich, I heard some fabulous active speakers. And each year we are seeing a few more. B&W just announced the new Formation Series which is a full line of active speakers with Roon connectivity. KEF has the LS50W. Estelon had some large floor standers that were active. Goldmund has some nice active speakers too. There are many others.

Would active speakers be something you would consider? If no, why?
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