Accuphase E-800

Oly said:
Greg and Paul: does your comparison between Accuphase and Luxman apply to their Class A offerings or to their Class AB integrated amps as well? Also, how would Esoteric’s integrated stack up relative to the other two brands?
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Hi Oly. In my case it was just on Class A comparison as I mentioned the E650 vs 590 axII on my 107db speakers.

I also like the Esoteric class A at the dealer with same speakers as mine. I found the Esoteric sound some what similar to Accuphase.


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That may well be the case, though I doubt it’s a “US-spec”transformer they use, rather than internal wiring of the 110V tap for the USmarket.

It’s certainly true that Accuphase take on board allregional safety and environmental regulations, for example their EU-destinedmodels include a “go to standby” feature after a period of no input signal, andtheir speaker sockets can’t be used with bananas unless the coloured plasticparts have their knock-out patches knocked out. Peter

 
Oly said:
Greg and Paul: does your comparison between Accuphase and Luxman apply to their Class A offerings or to their Class AB integrated amps as well? Also, how would Esoteric’s integrated stack up relative to the other two brands?
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Gary, Now I see your system list. I bet the E650 works like a dream with your Canterbury GR . Great speakers. I do miss mine time to time
 
Very interesting thread. I hope that everyone reading has learned to take what you read with a grain of salt. If you simply rely on peoples testimony online, even when they are from genuine owners (who really knows who they are or what their motives are), then you are doomed to fail in your pursuit of this hobby.
 
Hear Here said:
That may well be the case, though I doubt it’s a “US-spec”transformer they use, rather than internal wiring of the 110V tap for the USmarket.

It’s certainly true that Accuphase take on board allregional safety and environmental regulations, for example their EU-destinedmodels include a “go to standby” feature after a period of no input signal, andtheir speaker sockets can’t be used with bananas unless the coloured plasticparts have their knock-out patches knocked out. Peter
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If I was to take a guess I would think this whole recent special "US-spec" transformer story is a bunch of bull. Rest assured that no Manufacturer wants to increase their parts count or complexity of components/assembly. If there is enough money and desire behind it then perhaps they will... but again, rest assured that the US and Canadian Distributors are cheap, barely surviving and they are not paying for this customization.
 
GreginNH said:
I really didn't know how much I loved Luxman until I had both brands in my audio room.
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And that, boys and girls, is the only way to do it. STOP BEING CHEAP! if you cant afford to have a pair of amplifiers or speakers side by side then you will forever chase your tail.

Boy, Im sounding harsh!
 
dznutz said:
If I was to take a guess I would think this whole recent special "US-spec" transformer story is a bunch of bull. Rest assured that no Manufacturer wants to increase their parts count or complexity of components/assembly. If there is enough money and desire behind it then perhaps they will... but again, rest assured that the US and Canadian Distributors are cheap, barely surviving and they are not paying for this customization.
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Really? Even with more than 100% mark up? If they aren’t selling enough, I wonder why.
 
So clearly the only thing you have to add is that Accuphase is too expensive in the US?
 
And thats exactly the condition you can expect your new Integrated to arrive in from the Distributor, embarrassing.
 
When paying this kind of money the box matters just as much as the component inside... to me at least.
 
The outer box quality certainly leaves a lot to be desired. Inner boxes are more than adequate. I guess they could ship on a pallet but that creates some challenges for residential delivery.
 
In my opinion, an overly critical unbalanced review that does not make sense -- starts out with saying it is a warmer sound but still has all the details and other audiophile attributes. I feel that his impressions were driven by the disproportionately high price of the component in the US (which I agree is a big problem). It also highlights the subjective nature of this hobby where 10 people can rarely agree on anything as we all hear differently.
I do not have personal experience with the Luxman 590 mk2; so cannot comment on its sound. I have heard only good things about it.
I do have extensive experience with Accuphase A70, which is a 60 watt Class A amp that I have owned for the past ~ 3 years. It sound sublime and easily drives my Vienna Acoustics The Music speakers. No lack of power here and the bass is all that it needs to be. I am a little puzzled about the reviewer talking about a lack of power.
I compared it at length to a Gryphon Diablo 300 integrated and decided to keep the Accuphase as it edged out the Gryphon in my system. Just a smoother, more refined, easier to listen to at length sound (the difference was subtle but there).
Anshul

GreginNH said:
Well here is Jay's Audio Lab review of the E-800 (actually my ex E-800)

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