Audiophilehi
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Thanks Mike!
Abbey Road
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Very good. We listened to the Blu Ray Audio as well. A nice feature of the MSB REF Transport is that it will play the Blu Ray Audio layer.
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Randy Myers
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The 96 Khz download from HDTracks is awesome. Listening to it upsampled to 24.6 Mhz now. Best sounding Beatles to date in my view. Have also listened to it on the new Burmester system in my new Benz... very nice!
BlueFox
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I was on HDTracks today buying three new albums. I saw that but didn’t get it. Glad that it sounds great.
mep
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I listened to the Qobuz 24/96 version of the newly remastered Abbey Road last night and I don't share the feelings of other people who were blown away buy it. I hope the vinyl sounds way better than the digital version. I had to switch over to some digital files that I know sound great to make sure all was right with my digital playback after hearing both sides of Abbey Road. After hearing all was well, I pulled out my BC-13 LP collection and played Abbey Road. It wasn't even close.
Audiophilehi
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What didn’t you like about it? I have to say I wasn’t blown away myself listening to the Blu-Ray version but I didn’t dislike it. I also have the Vinyl as well but haven’t listened to it yet.
It sure is different from the original mix so I believe some might be put off at first listen. There are some things I really love about the new mix like voices are now centered and more up front as opposed to either coming from the left or right speaker. Ringo’s drums and Paul’s bass guitar are more pronounced and tighter. There seems to be more coming from the new mix but I really have to do a side by side comparison.
That being said I will not be discarding my 2 very early UK original pressings or the 2009 CD’s but I will also keep the new mix in my arsenal.
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Mike Lavigne
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the vinyl remaster that was suppose to arrive next week got delivered yesterday mid-day......so 'game on'.
we had a fun session yesterday for 2-3 hours. member Ultrafast69 came over with his friend Tanner. we started out with the Qobuz 24/96 version playing three cuts; 'Come Together', 'Here Comes The Sun', and 'Polythene Pam', then played my 24/48 USB edition file from my hard drive. we all preferred the Quduz 24/96.
Next we played the USA vinyl pressing of the re-mastered vinyl of 'Come Together' and 'Here Comes The Sun'.......and preferred that to the digital. i was not in the sweet spot so my perception, while i agreed, was provisional. i have three early vinyl pressings of Abbey Road plus the ProCut Japanese pressing. i also own at least 5 Beatles Box sets and numerous other pressings.
i guessed which one of my early pressings was my original pressing (i have not played it in a few years and would have needed to spend some time making sure with all the little tells). i think Ultrafast 69 preferred the remastered vinyl, whereas preliminarily i preferred (what i think is) my original pressing. the remaster sounded 'processed' to me and was missing sparkle on top. more 'life' in the original. also, Ultrafast mentioned that the new remaster has different notes in some spots, likely the remaster choose different work parts when optimizing the new remaster.
lastly we played my 15ips 1/4" master dub (of unknown provenance) of Come Together, Something, Here Comes the Sun, Because, and You Never Give Me Your Money. this was the first few cuts on 2 reels.
game, set, match to the RTR tape. i was not in the sweet spot but it had a sense of musical flow and rightness those others could not match. to my ears the original pressing was closest to this.
next we played side one of Led Zeppelin I on RTR tape.......by request. Ultrafast69 had been blown away by that tape at a prior session and needed a fix. i think he got it. i have the Classic Records 45rpm box set of Led Zeppplin which is crazy good. but the tape is other-worldly.
this is how God intended this music to be heard.
good RTR tape is just not fair to other choices.
i'll sit down and do an extended, unhurried, set of the remaster to original digital and vinyl compare when i have more time and comment further. we only had a couple of hours. it was a very enjoyable session and thanks to Ultrafast 69 for coming over. i enjoyed meeting his friend Tanner who is new to high end audio. he seemed to enjoy it and all the carrying on about system building and different music version talk.
we had a fun session yesterday for 2-3 hours. member Ultrafast69 came over with his friend Tanner. we started out with the Qobuz 24/96 version playing three cuts; 'Come Together', 'Here Comes The Sun', and 'Polythene Pam', then played my 24/48 USB edition file from my hard drive. we all preferred the Quduz 24/96.
Next we played the USA vinyl pressing of the re-mastered vinyl of 'Come Together' and 'Here Comes The Sun'.......and preferred that to the digital. i was not in the sweet spot so my perception, while i agreed, was provisional. i have three early vinyl pressings of Abbey Road plus the ProCut Japanese pressing. i also own at least 5 Beatles Box sets and numerous other pressings.
i guessed which one of my early pressings was my original pressing (i have not played it in a few years and would have needed to spend some time making sure with all the little tells). i think Ultrafast 69 preferred the remastered vinyl, whereas preliminarily i preferred (what i think is) my original pressing. the remaster sounded 'processed' to me and was missing sparkle on top. more 'life' in the original. also, Ultrafast mentioned that the new remaster has different notes in some spots, likely the remaster choose different work parts when optimizing the new remaster.
lastly we played my 15ips 1/4" master dub (of unknown provenance) of Come Together, Something, Here Comes the Sun, Because, and You Never Give Me Your Money. this was the first few cuts on 2 reels.
game, set, match to the RTR tape. i was not in the sweet spot but it had a sense of musical flow and rightness those others could not match. to my ears the original pressing was closest to this.
next we played side one of Led Zeppelin I on RTR tape.......by request. Ultrafast69 had been blown away by that tape at a prior session and needed a fix. i think he got it. i have the Classic Records 45rpm box set of Led Zeppplin which is crazy good. but the tape is other-worldly.
this is how God intended this music to be heard.
good RTR tape is just not fair to other choices.
i'll sit down and do an extended, unhurried, set of the remaster to original digital and vinyl compare when i have more time and comment further. we only had a couple of hours. it was a very enjoyable session and thanks to Ultrafast 69 for coming over. i enjoyed meeting his friend Tanner who is new to high end audio. he seemed to enjoy it and all the carrying on about system building and different music version talk.
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the vinyl remaster that was suppose to arrive next week got delivered yesterday mid-day......so 'game on'.
we had a fun session yesterday for 2-3 hours. member Ultrafast69 came over with his friend Tanner. we started out with the Qobuz 24/96 version playing three cuts; 'Come Together', 'Here Comes The Sun', and 'Polythene Pam', then played my 24/48 USB edition file from my hard drive. we all preferred the Quduz 24/96.
Next we played the USA vinyl pressing of the re-mastered vinyl of 'Come Together' and 'Here Comes The Sun'.......and preferred that to the digital. i was not in the sweet spot so my perception, while i agreed, was provisional. i have three early vinyl pressings of Abbey Road plus the ProCut Japanese pressing. i also own at least 5 Beatles Box sets and numerous other pressings.
i guessed which one of my early pressings was my original pressing (i have not played it in a few years and would have needed to spend some time making sure with all the little tells). i think Ultrafast 69 preferred the remastered vinyl, whereas preliminarily i preferred (what i think is) my original pressing. the remaster sounded 'processed' to me and was missing sparkle on top. more 'life' in the original. also, Ultrafast mentioned that the new remaster has different notes in some spots, likely the remaster choose different work parts when optimizing the new remaster.
lastly we played my 15ips 1/4" master dub (of unknown provenance) of Come Together, Something, Here Comes the Sun, Because, and You Never Give Me Your Money. this was the first few cuts on 2 reels.
game, set, match to the RTR tape. i was not in the sweet spot but it had a sense of musical flow and rightness those others could not match. to my ears the original pressing was closest to this.
next we played side one of Led Zeppelin I on RTR tape.......by request. Ultrafast69 had been blown away by that tape at a prior session and needed a fix. i think he got it. i have the Classic Records 45rpm box set of Led Zeppplin which is crazy good. but the tape is other-worldly.
this is how God intended this music to be heard.
good RTR tape is just not fair to other choices.
i'll sit down and do an extended, unhurried, set of the remaster to original digital and vinyl compare when i have more time and comment further. we only had a couple of hours. it was a very enjoyable session and thanks to Ultrafast 69 for coming over. i enjoyed meeting his friend Tanner who is new to high end audio. he seemed to enjoy it and all the carrying on about system building and different music version talk.
Very nice gathering Mike. Sounds like a lot of fun. Wish I was there.
I brought my Studer 810 to the store (see in pic) and played my Abbey Road on tape. Suffice it to say, there was lots of noises from the attendees when the tape started: “oh man, oh man, that’s the winner right there”, “it’s not even close.” They loved the tape and that was using the internal electronics and not the Doshi Tape Pre.
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I didn't like anything about it. It just sounds wrong to me on so many levels. The life and flow of the EMI Parlaphone LP has been removed from the remastered digital version. I scratch my head when I read comments about how the bass is better on the remix and how the drums sound "better" or "more real." The anvil strikes on the Qobuz 24/96 version of Maxwell's Silver Hammer are a joke compared to the EMI/Parlaphone LP.
I bought the original Beatles CDs when they first came out. I bought the remastered 2009 mono and stereo CD collections when they came out. I have the limited edition green apple that contains 24/44.1 flac files on a USB stick I bought when it first came out. There is really nothing special about any of them. I didn't fall for buying the LP collection that was cut from the digital files that I already owned. No Beatle digital files that I have heard makes me want to play them instead of my BC-13 LP collection.
I honestly was concerned that something was amiss with my digital front end when I was streaming the 24/96 version of Abbey Road last night. After I suffered through Abbey Road, I switched over to an album that I know sounds great on my digital rig to do a sanity check. I played the Qobuz version of The Poll Winners Ride Again! It sounded great like it always does so that allayed any fears that digital gremlins had invaded my digital front end.
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Obviously I'm not a fan. However, there are people praising the Qobuz 24/96 version to high heaven.
Dguitarnut
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I thought that’s what I heard! And I thought Mike was due a pest control visit!the crickets on the intro to sun king are still OK though, right???
I really liked the UK pressing above anything else that afternoon. Some of the low bass
notes present made me ask Mike if the Subs in the room were connected. Most amazing presentation I have ever heard.
Kingrex
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Qobuz popped this album as a suggestion so I played it. I like it alot. Sure there are reasons to trash anything, but I like it. It's a bit of a new take on an old hat. It's a little different but not in a bad way. They let the grit in Paul and John's voices come through. The instruments are more solid. It's not as sparkling but it's got good drive. The studio cuts are great. You can hear the warts they needed to polish out. I can see how the original was right for the time. A little more jangle and fun. This one is more for today. Were more accustomed to beat bass and vocal prominence on top now. I think the new fits 2019.
UltraFast69
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I had the benefit of hearing Abbey Road at Mike Lavignes with source variations from different periods that included the new Qobuz, a download from the last remaster, an original pressing version, the new pressing release and finally the tape. I am not sure the origin of the original and tape.
Qobuz was great coming off the MSB. The beauty of AR was enhanced on vinyl and tape.
Like Rex, I really liked the new version which did include new sound dubs at least on Come Together and suspect more. Is that messing with the old version with John and George now gone and not knowing what control Paul and Ringo initiated, IDK.
In the end, I’m on the fence between the new release and the original and would have to spend critical time listening - I was mainly interested in the spirit of things, that even included sipping of some nice Scotch.
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Qobuz was great coming off the MSB. The beauty of AR was enhanced on vinyl and tape.
Like Rex, I really liked the new version which did include new sound dubs at least on Come Together and suspect more. Is that messing with the old version with John and George now gone and not knowing what control Paul and Ringo initiated, IDK.
In the end, I’m on the fence between the new release and the original and would have to spend critical time listening - I was mainly interested in the spirit of things, that even included sipping of some nice Scotch.
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Randy Myers
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Cheryal and I hosted The Central Coast Audio Club meeting/get together yesterday. I was talking to Jon (from Stereophile) about the Abbey Road album. He is absolutely thrilled about the new high resolution mix. He was pointing out some of the things that were done, such as on certain tracks the guitars were previously all in the middle but now they separated them, one on the left, one in the center, one of the right, as a small example. He stated that this album is begging to be played loud. He feels it is the best Beatles mix ever!
Randy Myers
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the crickets on the intro to sun king are still OK though, right???
They are still there in their awesomeness as you would want
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Projectman
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Sorry I missed the event. I was in Nashville with a group of friends in low places
Kingrex
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Where are the Reel To Reel tapes coming from. I don't see any listed for sale? Yet, people seem to have them and they sound great??????? I could see that if they were safety masters or made for production. I don't see it so much if they are a copy of a record.