A few words about my CJ ART monos, Lampizator 211's and VAC Sigma 160i SE ....

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As much as I hate tube maintenance and the worry of tubes self-destructing (which has never happened to me, by the way), I can not give them up.

All are amazing pieces. At retail, the ART monos are $39K, the VAC 160i SE is $15.5K and the 211's are $11K.

If my Strads were more efficient and a little easier to drive, I think the 211's could be the winner for my personal taste. The Strads need more power to strut their stuff.

The 211's are wonderful. I think my 211's may need a little more break in. They do not have the brute power of the CJ ART amps, 85 wpc vs 275 wpc, but are similar in a lot of ways. I think the 211's have a more in the room or forward (in a good way) 3D presentation. It's like you can reach out and touch the music with the 211's. The ART monos have tremendous layering and depth. The 211's are voiced just a little sweeter vs the ART monos which seem slightly more neutral. The ART monos control my Strads a little better, but I do not listen loud.

The VAC also has 85 wpc like the 211's. Bass is not as powerful, but what's there is articulate and accurate. The VAC has air, separation, depth and width, but is not as forward (3D). It is more even and reserved, but is also an overall great performer. It does not immediately impress like the others, but the more you listen, the more you realize how complete it sounds. For example, like the Dartzeel 108 amps that I've had before, the VAC seems anemic, especially in the bass. But as you listen, you realize that it's all there and can surprise you, out of nowhere, how much that is actually in the music. It sort of sneaks up on you. The 211's are a little bolder (maybe a tiny but flashy, again in a good way) and stays that way (you really need to hear the 211's - voiced like a Kondo). The VAC grows on you like a song you like at first, then absolutely LOVE with a few more playings. It is absolutely wonderful.

The ART monos (especially with the GAT) can do it all and are totally grainless.

All these amps are superb in the right system and simply freaking outstanding with my Lampizator Golden Gate.
 
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That's great Joe! I'm sure it's wonderful to have all of them and be able to have a change of pace when you're in the mood.
 
Good to hear Joe! The ART monos must be the all around great amps everyone says they are, with loads of power to spare. I would love to hear them.
 
It's difficult for me to fully describe what I hear, but I usually end up loving the one I'm with :D
 
Even tho my VAC pre is getting close to 30 years old, what you described in the first post rings true for me too. It may not be the deepest of bass, but it's all there and very clear and separated nicely.

Sounds like a winning setup.
 
To me, that VAC bass signature is what made the VAC combo work so well with my Raidho speakers.
 
Hey Joe

You got me drooling again. Now that I have changed rooms my teflon prem8a's are sounding amazing and sound great with the KT120's.

I wonder what the Sq difference is between the ART's and the Teflon prem8a's are.
 
Hi Joe,

Thanks for sharing the flavors of your amps and the comparison of each.

I can only imagine how well the ART Monos drive your SF's. :thumbsup:
 
Hey Joe

You got me drooling again. Now that I have changed rooms my teflon prem8a's are sounding amazing and sound great with the KT120's.

I wonder what the Sq difference is between the ART's and the Teflon prem8a's are.

I imagine your Teflon Prem8's are wonderful. Same DNA and probably pretty close, I'm sure. CJ is good stuff.
 
Hi Joe,

Thanks for sharing the flavors of your amps and the comparison of each.

I can only imagine how well the ART Monos drive your SF's. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the kind words Mike. The GAT/ART combo is very transparent to the source and most un-electronic (if that makes sense) and natural top to bottom. They have the power to drive anything.

The 211's are amazing within their power envelope but when you need the juice and control, the ART monos deliver.
 
Even tho my VAC pre is getting close to 30 years old, what you described in the first post rings true for me too. It may not be the deepest of bass, but it's all there and very clear and separated nicely.

Sounds like a winning setup.

Seems like VAC maintains the same house sound more or less. I know CJ went through a period where there was more of a golden warmer tone to the music. I still love that flavor. The current gear is more neutral. My VAC has a quiet, understated yet fully realized presentation. It draws me in and does not let go. Just wonderful.
 
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Seems like VAC maintains the same house sound more or less. I know CJ went through a period where there was more of a golden warmer tone to the music. I still that flavor. The current gear is more neutral. My VAC has a quiet, understated yet fully realized presentation. It draws me in and does not let go. Just wonderful.

I would love to hear some of the newer VAC gear but nobody in may area has it. Looks like the closest place to me is over 3 hours away.
 
Joe, nice to be in such good company. Thats a great neighbourhood you're playing in.
 
I would love to hear some of the newer VAC gear but nobody in may area has it. Looks like the closest place to me is over 3 hours away.

Brian - VAC preamps continue to be some of the best preamps on the market today and seemingly only get better. Newer VAC amps however, are very speaker dependent. On my Magico's, Focal and Raidho's for example, they were tops. Absolutely incredible. On Strads, Wilson, not the best, but not bad by any means.

To me, the 160SE remains one of the greatest tube integrated amps around. I think the 160SE with built in MC Phono and a pair of Living Voice or Focal Sopra No. 2's would be heavenly.
 
Ha! As a matter of fact, yes :)

Thank you Jim. It really is great to see you here.
 
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