803D and MC452

stanly.joseph said:
What amp would you suggest for the 803D's?


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just my opinion...but Krell, Passlabs, Modwright, or Classe for a power amp...B&W's can sound closed in and dark unless you hammer them with powerful, vivid and transparent power. A model with 250 watts or more power per channel that can double down when cutting the ohm's in half. Tubes in the pre-amp or DAC if you're into that.
 
So I sent Mcintosh an email asking what's the power output of the MC452 when an 8ohm speaker dips into the 4 and 2ohm category during dynamic music passages?

Here's the response:

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stanly.joseph said:
So I sent Mcintosh an email asking what's the power output of the MC452 when an 8ohm speaker dips into the 4 and 2ohm category during dynamic music passages?

Here's the response:

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That's interesting. Very interesting. It was my understanding, and I guess I'm wrong, that all McIntosh amps were ABOUT the same wattage into all ohms. I could have sworn I've even seen measurements to the same. Their specs on the website even say that.

"POWER OUTPUT PER CHANNEL
450W @ 2, 4 or 8 Ohms"

Reference: http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Products/pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=amplifiers&ProductId=MC452

Man, I hope Dan can explain this. I've been going under the assumption that Mc amps were ABOUT the same wattage into 8 ohms as they were into 4 ohms.
 
Stanly - this is probably a BIG BIG stretch financially, but man, if you could ever afford the 2301's, you would never buy another amp again (unless you're an idiot who sells it...like someone I know. :) )
 
Mike said:
That's interesting. Very interesting. It was my understanding, and I guess I'm wrong, that all McIntosh amps were ABOUT the same wattage into all ohms. I could have sworn I've even seen measurements to the same. Their specs on the website even say that.

"POWER OUTPUT PER CHANNEL
450W @ 2, 4 or 8 Ohms"

Reference: McIntosh MC452 Amplifier

Man, I hope Dan can explain this. I've been going under the assumption that Mc amps were ABOUT the same wattage into 8 ohms as they were into 4 ohms.
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I am pretty sure this, 900-1800 watts, refers to dynamic peaks, not continuous wattage.
 
Mike said:
Stanly - this is probably a BIG BIG stretch financially, but man, if you could ever afford the 2301's, you would never buy another amp again (unless you're an idiot who sells it...like someone I know. :) )
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Only $22K for the pair of 2301's??? Sweet! Let me check my wallet, just a sec........yup sure can do it if I sell one of my kidneys first. Anyone in need of a fine and well cared for kidney? It loves music!!! [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]


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Mike said:
Man, I hope Dan can explain this. I've been going under the assumption that Mc amps were ABOUT the same wattage into 8 ohms as they were into 4 ohms.
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Who's Dan? That's what I thought too which frankly was somewhat holding me back from deciding on the 452's but everything seem fine and just dandy now [emoji4]

Mcintosh even recommends hooking the 803D's into their 4ohm taps just to get the best out of them.


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stanly.joseph said:
Only $22K for the pair of 2301's??? Sweet! Let me check my wallet, just a sec........yup sure can do it if I sell one of my kidneys first. Anyone in need of a fine and well cared for kidney? It loves music!!! [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]


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That's cheap! Price in Australia now is EACH.
 
Each? Australia is getting ripped off mate! Is that due to taxes? The exchange rate is only 1.29 AUD for every USD.


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I think the US price of the MC2301/MC1.2KW is $12K each or $24K for the pair.
 
Yup the $22k figure came from an older review. Prices have increased since than...


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Just an update:

Instead of upgrading to the mc452 for my 2 channel entertainment, I postponed it and went for the C2500 stereo pre-amp instead.

I wish I could invite every one of you into my humble abode to listen to some tunes. I simply can't describe how sweet the sound is now.....so sweet I could cry. And that's just with a XPR 5 amp.

Just imagine how dry my eyes would be when I get the 452!!!! Oh Lord thank you for my pair of ears and for Mcintosh.


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Stanly joseph, congrats on the purchase of your C2500 pre-amp. Great purchase. You can make even sound sweeter by upgrading the stock tubes in the future. Once you get the MC452 to mate with the C2500 you will be in heaven and really cry your eyes out.
 
PMCH said:
Stanly joseph, congrats on the purchase of your C2500 pre-amp. Great purchase. You can make even sound sweeter by upgrading the stock tubes in the future. Once you get the MC452 to mate with the C2500 you will be in heaven and really cry your eyes out.
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[emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24] I can't wait!!!


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