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sharkmouth

sharkmouth

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Can anyone give me a link to a site that has a listing of tubes & their signature/tone/sound please?
 
www.audioshark.org - dig around, lots of info.

Other sites....

www.tubemaze.info

Another option....

Ask Doug (db2).

Kev - I think a 300b type amp is the best way to start. Anthony Perrotta is selling a pair of VAC 30/70's on audiogon. 70 watts per channel. 8, 300b's though and only SE connection. I was going to buy these....but decided to hold off until I get my speakers.


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Kev, other than doing google searches I don't know of just one place that tells you the sound differences between tubes. Here is a good starting point for some basic understanding: Tube sound - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Google things like "EL34 vs. 6L6" for example and the internet is your oyster. If I come across something useful I'll let you know.
 
Thanks for the help. I have looked here & followed all links. I have in the past come across the exact thing that I ask from a tube retailer but am damned if I can remember or find it. Will follow the links above & read up.
 
CONGRATULATIONS Sharkmouth!

You hold the record for the most vague thread title on Audioshark! :congrats: :D :congrats: :D

I don't think I would have read it if the title asked where to obtain tubes, but you certainly piqued my interest!
 
Gary, it was your attention that I was after alone. I see my cunning plan has worked!! :D :fingers:
 
^^^^ Yes your cunning plan worked, but I still don't have any information to relate on tubes!
 
Well...I am a super-Mod now ;) Just trying to live up to the title.

Just don't ask me, to explain what "wet" is...in terms of tone. :rolleyes:

(J/K; like any good audiophile, I have a take...lol)
 
I believe the actual design TYPE of the amp matters most (SET, PSET, push pull, OTL, hybrid). THEN the tube type (300b, 845, 211). Then the tube brand (NOS vs current production). Then the power supply, etc.

Throw into the mix amp modes (triode, pentode, etc) and things can get confusing.

I know a lot of folks believe its all in the power supply (unless we're discussing OTL's)....but I have just never heard such a big difference between a tube amp with a super expensive power supply and a moderate one. To me, the PS is the ultimate black box voodoo justification for some charging ungodly sums for low wattage tube amps.

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Mike said:
I believe the actual design TYPE of the amp matters most (SET, PSET, push pull, OTL, hybrid). THEN the tube type (300b, 845, 211). Then the tube brand (NOS vs current production). Then the power supply, etc.

Throw into the mix amp modes (triode, pentode, etc) and things can get confusing.

I know a lot of folks believe its all in the power supply (unless we're discussing OTL's)....but I have just never heard such a big difference between a tube amp with a super expensive power supply and a moderate one.
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I tend to agree with you here Mike.

It's just trial and error when you start listening to different types of tube amps. You start to form an opinion about what tubes have a certain signature and when you find the sound you like then you can listen to many different amps with that, or those, particular tubes. It's amazing how different amps using the same tube can sound.
 
dlb2 said:
That chart is such a gross generalization it's not even funny! :snicker:



j/k, Chris
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Chris,

In who's world might I ask?, as I've gone through just about every brand of tube out there, some known, and many simply overlooked or under appreciated like Japanese tubes, or one from companies like Lorenz - Valvo ( both of which are more musical then any Telefunken I've heard by the way ), but like most matters as they relate to audio, it's all subjective at best.

It's like thinking that A23 LS Cables are the best out there, yet to my hearing only with the most lush sounding tube amps - like LM Audio - Shindo Labs ( which they were actually designed to work with or possibly Leben ), but heard in some systems, they come across as slow and muffed, but that's just my ear preferring something more naturally dynamic, with a quicker response time signature of notes.

That's why each of us have different systems, nothing is universal, but in tubes one does have a greater sense of generalization then most, just ask yourself a few questions, to test this theory - what comes to mind when you think about the sound of tubes from the likes of say Amperex - Mullard and Telefunken?, see there, it isn't as a whack of an ideal as one would've us believe - but I'm more into what I've actually heard as opposed to making false statements, but that's just me.
 
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