452 or 601's

I'll give both an audition to see which impresses me the most.


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stanly.joseph said:
My dealer is also recommending the 275 tube amp. Wonder if that will even scratch the 803D's power hungry bellies. Seems so teeny!


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You will want a pair of 275's. Great amps, but not as smooth on the top end as the 452/601 IMO. Depends what you're after. Controlling the tweeter or just a different sound? If your tweeter doesn't give you any unnecessary extra bite - go for a pair of 275's and never look back.

If the tweeter does - then 452/601 is the way to go. No fundamental sonic difference IMO - just comes down to whether you want monos or stereo.


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Mike said:
You will want a pair of 275's. Great amps, but not as smooth on the top end as the 452/601 IMO. Depends what you're after. Controlling the tweeter or just a different sound? If your tweeter doesn't give you any unnecessary extra bite - go for a pair of 275's and never look back.

If the tweeter does - then 452/601 is the way to go. No fundamental sonic difference IMO - just comes down to whether you want monos or stereo.


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452 is my goal unless something else blows me away.....I already own the C2500 preamp, and all I've been reading is what a great combo the 2500 and 452 is. The 275 is not quad balanced either. Zero noise is my absolute goal. I want total and complete blackness in between the colorful tunes.


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You can't go wrong with the 452 - at least until you try to lift it by yourself. [emoji14]


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Now if only my dealer could give me the same great deal he did on the 2500, I'll be friggin ecstatic!! [emoji2]


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Anybody owns this salamander synergy cabinets? Wondering how comfortably the macs would fit in it.....the specs seems alright except for the depth of only 18 inches which means the mac would stick out the rears.



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I have a Salamander triple cabinet which has vented back covers that extend the debt of the cabinet. If I remember correctly my cabinet is the Sonoma model. It gives me an extra 4 to 5 inches. My MC601's fit without a problem.

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Awesome!!! Than the 452 shouldn't be a problem


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Hey Mike

Can you post a pic of your setup in the salamander ?


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stanly.joseph.......I have a two section Salamander Synergy rack in my living room system. I don't use the back panels because I have the sides closed and wanted the extra ventilation. My MC601 amps fit on the bottom shelf without a problem.


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stanly.joseph, I snapped this before I saw your email this morning. You can get these metal covers with vents or with fans. The Mac amps run so cool heat is not an issue in my cabinet. I don't remember what they cost but I bought 3 of them. Browse to Salamander designs to see the vented covers. I have to post 3 more times to add pictures. I will in a real soon so I can show you what they look like.

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stanly.joseph, I snapped this before I saw your email this morning. You can get these metal covers with vents or with fans. The Mac amps run so cool heat is not an issue in my cabinet. I don't remember what they cost but I bought 3 of them. Browse to Salamander designs to see the vented covers. I have to post 3 more times to add pictures. I will in a real soon so I can show you what they look like.

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Setup Looks real nice. I've seen those rear vented covers but I'm planning on just having the regular flat kind and cut it where necessary to make space for the Amps rear and also for easy future access.

I understand the height of each component space can be adjusted, just the width and depth are fixed. And I see you have two 601's sitting in there quite comfortably. That's great!


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The reason I went with the extended back covers is I didn't want to get dust accumulating on the backs of my amps. OCD I guess. :blush:
I do have my cabinet on sliders but it is a pain in the tuchas to pull it out from the wall.

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stanly.joseph.......I was having difficulty getting my photo to appear but I finally got the photo of my rack to show in post #30.
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That looks nice! and on wheels!!!
I can't believe those tiny wheels can carry all that load.


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stanly.joseph said:
That looks nice! and on wheels!!!
I can't believe those tiny wheels can carry all that load.
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stanly.joseph.......There are six casters supporting the rack. The rack with gear weighs approximately 400 lbs. so that is about 66 lbs. per caster. I wouldn't want to try and roll this rack full of gear around the house but it works well enough to allow me to pull the rack away from the wall when I need to get at the connections and cables.


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All that just for 2 channel entertainment double D? WOW and I thought I was crazy!!! [emoji1][emoji1][emoji1]

Must sound pretty damn sweet though huh? What speakers you driving?

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Hey what's the significance of a buzz vs a hiss coming out of your tweeters?
I hear buzz with RCA's and Hiss with XLR's


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stanly.joseph said:
All that just for 2 channel entertainment double D? WOW and I thought I was crazy!!! [emoji1][emoji1][emoji1]

Must sound pretty damn sweet though huh? What speakers you driving?

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stanly.joseph.......The living room system has PMC EB1i speakers. The studio system has Sonus faber Amati Anniversario speakers. The vintage system has JBL 4312A speakers. The home theater system has JBL LSR-6332 speakers, JBL LSR-6328P speakers, and a pair of McIntosh XLS112 subwoofers. All speakers are powered by McIntosh amplifiers except the three JBL LSR6328P"s which are bi-amped active speakers.
 
Hi stanly.joseph,

personaly i'm not abig fans from Mcintosh but hte "new Mc series" (452/601/...) have a diffeernt sound vs the "old" 501/252/....is a personal taste but the new 452 is a very good amplifier.

452 or 601? for me the choice is only a question of $$$$and place. -> the 452 have enough power for the 80% of the speakers , the perfect match will be the C2500.

You can go with the Emotiva for the HT and the combo C2500/Mc452 for a great stereo system.

with a new speaker (next year?:) ) B&W / PMC -> they soud very good with Mc gears you have no problem to listen with pleasure you system..(imho)

a friend had the 601 with Focal Utopia: was a good sound BUT now the with PMC MB2 se the system sound MUCH better, really fantastic.
 
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