T+a pa3100hv
- Thread starter Mike
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I have to agree with some of the other members here. It would be best to finalize your speaker decision first. Then, try out these respective integrated amps on your speakers to find the best synergy.
IMHO ; the match between amplifier and speaker ; is critical. Can make or break synergy in a system.
I don't think one can make a "bad" choice but, once you find that perfect "marriage" if you will between your amp and speakers; you'll know what you prefer.
IMHO ; the match between amplifier and speaker ; is critical. Can make or break synergy in a system.
I don't think one can make a "bad" choice but, once you find that perfect "marriage" if you will between your amp and speakers; you'll know what you prefer.
That's what i plan to do, i will purchase the speakers, DAC and cables and get different Integrated on loan for a shootout.
I just got the PA 3100 HV. Replaced my PA 3000 HV. Dealer brought it at my house, played them side by side for a while. Whoever said they sound the same, I am not sure what they were smoking. The PA 3100 HV is significantly better. Right off the box. Unless my 3000 was broken
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Congratulations, great amp for shure. Your front end is not too shabby either - I wonder how the Innous / MSB combo compare with the T+A DAC's.
Enjoy!
Thanks!
I feel happy with my MSB Discrete DAC, and my Innuos ZENith MK3, that I don’t feel the need to make any changes on that front
bluegrassphile
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Resist.....I must resist! Stay the course! I must..... :S
Alas, out of my budget anyway. But it sure is purdy.
Alas, out of my budget anyway. But it sure is purdy.
Randy Myers
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T+A is great gear, no matter what level is in your budget!
Randy Myers
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.Penthouse-D
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Great gear..... I've never been more satisfied all around...
‘Yes indeed! Too bad the T+A brand is not very popular in this side of Atlantic
GSOphile
Member
That may change....
bluegrassphile
Member
Gotta say, IMHO, that is the coolest looking amp on the market right now, hands down. I'll bet it sounds as good as it looks.
Randy Myers
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This is top quality German designed and manufactured equipment. T+A states, in no uncertain terms, that their equipment is not designed to last years but instead it is designed to last decades! In every way they use top quality parts through out. All of their equipment sounds amazing!!!
Even the Series 8 is using technology that was originally developed in their HV and R series, For example the DAC 8 DSD is using the 1-bit DSD processors that were originally designed in their top HV-Series and the amplifier they state is the exact same technology used in the HV and R series;
"...an extremely good amplifier that is built and equipped without compromise. That is why it also has the circuit topologies of our HV and R series. It is fully symmetrical, equipped with the best ThermalTrakTM audio transistors and an intelligent microprocessor monitors the entire device and controls, among other things, the complex protective circuits against short-circuit, overload and overtemperature."
Even the Series 8 is using technology that was originally developed in their HV and R series, For example the DAC 8 DSD is using the 1-bit DSD processors that were originally designed in their top HV-Series and the amplifier they state is the exact same technology used in the HV and R series;
"...an extremely good amplifier that is built and equipped without compromise. That is why it also has the circuit topologies of our HV and R series. It is fully symmetrical, equipped with the best ThermalTrakTM audio transistors and an intelligent microprocessor monitors the entire device and controls, among other things, the complex protective circuits against short-circuit, overload and overtemperature."
audio.bill
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Using technology from their reference level products is desirable and allows lower cost items to benefit from advances and offer great value, but it doesn't mean that their performance is at the same level. Many companies do this but it's in the details of the implementation where there are still differences. While they may use the same basic circuit topology the less expensive models are built with lower cost parts and not necessarily to the extreme level of their best gear. There's a reason that they continue to make their reference level gear even after trickling down the technology into lower cost models.
Randy Myers
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Of course this is true, however the point I was making is that T+A builds top notch gear across the board, and more so then many companies; they use many of the same design criteria even in their lower prices products.
"The input stage and the voltage amplifier stage also work at higher voltage potentials (HV = high voltage concept). The input stage is a cross-coupled J-FET cascode amplifier and the voltage amplifier stage is a single-ended Class A Hawksford FET cascode. The output stage takes over the current amplification and is equipped with ThermalTrak TM audio high-performance transistors for absolutely stable and inertia-free working point stabilization. The voltage amplifier stage and the current amplifier stage are completely separate from one another and have their own power supplies…"
Looking at their own descriptions and parts used it is clear that extreme high level of parts are used even in their more modestly priced models. Certainly not the same as their highest end models but certainly high quality, and maybe a tad above what many other companies do in similar price ranges.
Specifications Amp 8 versus HV amps (simply as an example):
Freq response 1 Hz - 200 kHz | 0.5 Hz - 180 kHz
slew rate 60V/us | 60V/us
damping factor >170 | >65
S / N ratio >110 dB | >115 dB
THD <0.009% | <0.03%
Very much in line with their top models and better than many other manufactures amplifiers.
Not saying they out do other companies and certainly not saying their lower models are better than other companies higher models, just making the point that they are top notch German designed and manufactured equipment that will surprise many people if they checked them out, even their more modest models.
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I don’t see how. From my own experience as a consumer, first PA 3000 and now PA 3100, the distribution network is to be desired. Only a handful of dealers. Marketing is non existent. The time from paying for it until delivery is ridiculously long. I don’t think T+A cares much about US market. Too bad, as they can penetrate it easily even with low(ish) budget E series, or R series
Penthouse-D
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Marketing is picking up. I've seen some very well done ads in both consumer audio mags..