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    PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    PS Audio is entering the speaker market with what looks to be an interesting design.

    aspen FR30 Loudspeaker – PS Audio
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    I am not a fan of the look but would love to hear them.
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mechnutt View Post
    I am not a fan of the look but would love to hear them.
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Wonder if they will show them at the Florida Audio Show?
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    I am not a fan of PS Audio... and... $28,500 for PS Audio's first speaker.... sorry... but just got to say.... really .
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by crwilli View Post
    Wonder if they will show them at the Florida Audio Show?
    Nope.


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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Dont have an issue with the looks at all and the price seems realistic in todays market place ..!!



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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    I really am interested in how well they sell a speaker that nobody has heard and unlikely very few will, before purchasing.

    Who in their right mind buys a $28,000 speaker without hearing it?
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I am not a fan of PS Audio... and... $28,500 for PS Audio's first speaker.... sorry... but just got to say.... really .
    What exactly does that mean? Or more explicitly - For a company with decades of experience with an owner who was mentored by Arnie Ludell who sell components in the four and five figure range and in a market with hundred thousand $+ speakers - exactly what does your reply mean?
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Nope.


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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by crwilli View Post

    Who in their right mind buys a $28,000 speaker without hearing it?
    Sadly Craig there are 'Audiofools' out there who probably would and a pair of 5 figure speaker cables to go along with them ............
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    Quote Originally Posted by sb6 View Post
    What exactly does that mean? Or more explicitly - For a company with decades of experience with an owner who was mentored by Arnie Ludell who sell components in the four and five figure range and in a market with hundred thousand $+ speakers - exactly what does your reply mean?
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    I'm in Boulder. I'm going to see if I can hear them...
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    I think there is a lot of bad-blood due to PS Audio going direct and burning their dealer network.

    Also, destroying the resale value of their stuff on Audiogon by doing so.

    They wanted all their high-margin junk for themselves :-)

    I think PS Audio just wants to the be the Emotiva of 2 Channel Audio.

    Eg; direct, make everything from the wall outlet to the speaker.

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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Being PS Audio, the actual price that most buyers pay will not be remotely close to that $28.5k tag.

    As for the look though, see below.


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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by sb6 View Post
    What exactly does that mean? Or more explicitly - For a company with decades of experience with an owner who was mentored by Arnie Ludell who sell components in the four and five figure range and in a market with hundred thousand $+ speakers - exactly what does your reply mean?
    What is so hard to understand...pretty simple... not a fan (for many reasons including having met Paul and knowing people who have worked with him for years, and having owned a few different pieces)... Not a fan of their gear, not a fan of the company... there is a lot of companies, just because I have no love for this company really should make no difference to anyone. Does that answer what my reply means...
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Then why post at all about a product you know nothing about and would never consider?
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by crwilli View Post
    I really am interested in how well they sell a speaker that nobody has heard and unlikely very few will, before purchasing.

    Who in their right mind buys a $28,000 speaker without hearing it?
    With their 30 day return policy, then there is not much risk. In some ways this would be the best way to buy speakers. Listen to them with your own equipment and in your own room for a month. Better that than many other ways to audition speakers.


    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    I think there is a lot of bad-blood due to PS Audio going direct and burning their dealer network.

    Also, destroying the resale value of their stuff on Audiogon by doing so...
    I like their company and products, but must admit that what they did to their dealer network was extremely poor form. I haven't purchased any of their products since that happened, and not sure I will. There are so many other wonderful companies out there...

    Even so, I still would like to hear them someday.
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Then why post at all about a product you know nothing about and would never consider?
    You mean like most every other thread in most every other forum. People have opinions and people express their opinions. Trust me, I held back (remember, Paul, James, EJ, Rick, Arnie, Bascom, and others all worked together in this area).
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by 4N6 View Post
    With their 30 day return policy, then there is not much risk. In some ways this would be the best way to buy speakers. Listen to them with your own equipment and in your own room for a month. Better that than many other ways to audition speakers.
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    You mean like most every other thread in most every other forum. People have opinions and people express their opinions. Trust me, I held back (remember, Paul, James, EJ, Rick, Arnie, Bascom, and others all worked together in this area).
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by 4N6 View Post
    With their 30 day return policy, then there is not much risk.
    well, that all depends on who is responsible for the return shipping, 500 plus lbs is not going to be cheap !!
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Their website says PSA will pay return shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crwilli View Post
    Who in their right mind buys a $28,000 speaker without hearing it?
    I do. I bought all of my speakers without seeing or hearing them. Coincident Technology Pure Reference Extreme, Wilson Audio Sophia v3, Magico S3, Magico Q3, Magico M3, Magico S-Sub, Magico ACC. Gotta be $200K+ worth of new speakers there bought sight unseen sound unheard.

    I'm not a fan of the FR30 aesthetic, it's ugly. For $28K it's at the same price point as Magico A5. I mean seriously, who would buy FR30 when you can get A5 for the same money? At least the PS Audio gives you an alternate color option. They have been developing this speaker for 5+ years so it's about time, they would have spent a lot of money getting it to this point.
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    I have to confess to buying a lot of gear unseen/unheard. Some mistakes, of course, but a lot of great choices too, some of which I wish I still had now. But I do love what I have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I do. I bought all of my speakers without seeing or hearing them. Coincident Technology Pure Reference Extreme, Wilson Audio Sophia v3, Magico S3, Magico Q3, Magico M3, Magico S-Sub, Magico ACC. Gotta be $200K+ worth of new speakers there bought sight unseen sound unheard.
    Same here. I bought all my current gear without hearing it, and absolutely love my stereo. I probably did spend a year reading reviews and audio forums about the gear and the manufacturer before deciding on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I am not a fan of PS Audio... and... $28,500 for PS Audio's first speaker.... sorry... but just got to say.... really .
    I was a fan of PS Audio, until repeated mention in company videos and postings over 3 years of a $15,000 knock-it-out-of-the-ballpark speaker turned into one costing nearly double the expectation. Failing to meet customer expectations cultivated over a long developmental cycle with several blown launch milestones is always a risky proposition.

    During that time I discovered the world of high sensitivity speakers and low powered tube amps. As many reviewers have said, when done right their synergy can reproduce sound that, to my ears, is far more appealing than the products offered by PS Audio, at a fraction of the cost.

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    In my experience, that is kind of typical of PS Audio. Hype the crap out of things and deliver a product that rarely matches the hype.

    I was actually considering a PS Audio DAC but glad I decided on the T+A instead. I see PS Audios being sold used all the time... there are at least 15 DACs being sold on the used market right now. I know there is an argument that could be made that this is because the sold so many, however my opinion is if people liked their gear so much why is it constantly being sold on the used market?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I do. I bought all of my speakers without seeing or hearing them. Coincident Technology Pure Reference Extreme, Wilson Audio Sophia v3, Magico S3, Magico Q3, Magico M3, Magico S-Sub, Magico ACC. Gotta be $200K+ worth of new speakers there bought sight unseen sound unheard.

    I'm not a fan of the FR30 aesthetic, it's ugly. For $28K it's at the same price point as Magico A5. I mean seriously, who would buy FR30 when you can get A5 for the same money? At least the PS Audio gives you an alternate color option. They have been developing this speaker for 5+ years so it's about time, they would have spent a lot of money getting it to this point.
    It's money that has to be recouped, partly through higher prices on the sale of PS Audio electronics. In his videos and posts, Paul expressed his dream of a comprehensive suite of products, including recordings and speakers. As a former customer, I thought it was a mistaken path for a small company. Development costs would just increase prices of PS Audio electronics, which went up recently ostensibly to pay for pandemic-related costs. Personally, I would rather have seen innovation on the products I used.

    Many companies have failed when they extended beyond their core competencies and customers refused to pay for expensive new products they would be unlikely to buy, and for which there were already numerous alternatives in the market. The vision of cradle to grave offerings is admirable but my opinion is just that. The marketplace will decide in the end if the path leads to success or going six feet under.

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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Randy, although we don't know sales figures, the amount of PS Audio products in the second-hand market is telling. I had an all PSA lineup and only the P15 regenerator remains in my rig. You don't see other prominent products as available. Case in point is the Decware Zen SET amp. There were none in the market last time I looked.

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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    The policy is admirable and one I used myself several times. However, someone pays for the generosity. It's reflected in higher prices for the PS Audio lineup. Recent price increases, justified to pay for pandemic-related costs, bear witness. Customers not in need of speakers subsidize those that do. It's the way business works, of course, but something feels wrong about the many subsidizing the very few who can afford $28,495 for a pair of speakers. Had they launched the speaker line with an innovative speaker in the range of $7,500-$12,500 I might feel differently.

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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    It depends, of course, on what is said. I'm not qualified to comment on the sound. Everything else is fair play.

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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I do. I bought all of my speakers without seeing or hearing them. Coincident Technology Pure Reference Extreme, Wilson Audio Sophia v3, Magico S3, Magico Q3, Magico M3, Magico S-Sub, Magico ACC. Gotta be $200K+ worth of new speakers there bought sight unseen sound unheard.




    I'm not a fan of the FR30 aesthetic, it's ugly. For $28K it's at the same price point as Magico A5. I mean seriously, who would buy FR30 when you can get A5 for the same money?
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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    I would be interested in learning more about your sight unseen experience, like what percentage did you like or met expectations, what you did in those cases where they did not. I've read about some of the ones you mentioned but would love to hear your take (don't mean lengthy reviews) if its not too much of an inconvenience.

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    Re: PS Audio Aspen FR30 loudspeakers

    Quote Originally Posted by arancano View Post
    ...I've read about some of the ones you mentioned but would love to hear your take (don't mean lengthy reviews) if its not too much of an inconvenience.
    I was surprised by the PRE. For a wooden box enclosure speaker with off-the-shelf drivers and very basic first order crossovers they do a disappearing act and sound pretty good. The Wilson sounded OK also but the ported design need more space around them to sound their best. The S3 I blew up a mid-driver twice, don't know why. Easy to repair, just a direct swap not even any soldering required. Q3 on S-Pods faultless and only got squeezed out because Magico went one better with M3. Not planning to replace those any time soon, especially with a PS Audio product. PS Audio electronics I rate as junk, but these speakers seem to have gone through an evolution process several times over to arrive at something I expect would sound OK. Not my cup-of-tea as far as what the industrial designer cooked up. I watched a few of Chris' YouTube videos and he seems to have the technical chops and is less evangelical and a more refreshing approach to commentary than the usual tired old drivel they serve up.
    Speakers: Magico M3, Q3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso | Amplification: Halcro |
    Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.4
    and YG Acoustics Rack 1.1 amp stands (pair)

    On the wish list: Esoteric Grandioso D1X. Shunyata Research Everest.

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