Dynaudio Contour 60

dznutz said:
Be very careful of comparing a recorded piano to a live piano. As you have no idea where the mic was placed during the recording and the recorded sound can be drastically different from your live listening session. Heck, you don’t even know what kind of piano it was, surely its not the same as your own or tuned the same.
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I know, but i have about 500gb of piano music recordings, so i have a good overall idea about the sound of a recorded piano, a reference piano in front of me and a brain.
 
Is anyone familiar with the statement that a system is only as good as its weakest link? With all due respect to David, I have to believe that applies in this case. I own a pair of the Contour 60 speakers myself and find their performance to be superb, but I'm driving them with the Luxman C-900u and M-900u electronics and commensurate level analog and digital source gear. They replaced the highly praised Magnepan 3.7i in my system and I'm very pleased with the resulting sonic performance. In the first post of this thread David states that he runs his system with a Phase Linear 3000 preamp which after checking dates back to 1978 and cost about $500. Apparently he likes the sound of his older Contours better with his setup and no one can dispute that, but his conclusions about the Contour 60 speakers need to be taken with a grain of salt and an understanding of what type of gear he is driving them with. Personally I find the Contour 60s to perform at a level far above their cost when driven by components which are suitably matched in their level of performance. We all have different tastes and preferences and are fortunate to have so much gear to choose from.
 
audio.bill said:
Is anyone familiar with the statement that a system is only as good as its weakest link? With all due respect to David, I have to believe that applies in this case. I own a pair of the Contour 60 speakers myself and find their performance to be superb, but I'm driving them with the Luxman C-900u and M-900u electronics and commensurate level analog and digital source gear. They replaced the highly praised Magnepan 3.7i in my system and I'm very pleased with the resulting sonic performance. In the first post of this thread David states that he runs his system with a Phase Linear 3000 preamp which after checking dates back to 1978 and cost about $500. Apparently he likes the sound of his older Contours better with his setup and no one can dispute that, but his conclusions about the Contour 60 speakers need to be taken with a grain of salt and an understanding of what type of gear he is driving them with. Personally I find the Contour 60s to perform at a level far above their cost when driven by components which are suitably matched in their level of performance. We all have different tastes and preferences and are fortunate to have so much gear to choose from.
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I'm driving the Contour 60 with a 400W Krell. Stereophile says that this is one of the best integrated amplifiers they ever tested. I will not go trough the try and error hell. What i experienced with the contour 60 is already the silliest thing i passed in my life. I'm devoted to music, not to hifi gear. If the Audiophile world is not as precise and quality oriented as the music instrument world is, then i just don't care about it anymore. I just keep the contour 3.3 which sounds wonderful with the Phase Linear + linn and with the Krell. I probably will sell the phase linear + linn too.
 
I have also owned the Contour 60’s and I found them to perform quite well. So much so that I now have the Confidence 30. As always, we all have our own opinions.
 
audio.bill said:
Is anyone familiar with the statement that a system is only as good as its weakest link? With all due respect to David, I have to believe that applies in this case. I own a pair of the Contour 60 speakers myself and find their performance to be superb, but I'm driving them with the Luxman C-900u and M-900u electronics and commensurate level analog and digital source gear. They replaced the highly praised Magnepan 3.7i in my system and I'm very pleased with the resulting sonic performance. In the first post of this thread David states that he runs his system with a Phase Linear 3000 preamp which after checking dates back to 1978 and cost about $500. Apparently he likes the sound of his older Contours better with his setup and no one can dispute that, but his conclusions about the Contour 60 speakers need to be taken with a grain of salt and an understanding of what type of gear he is driving them with. Personally I find the Contour 60s to perform at a level far above their cost when driven by components which are suitably matched in their level of performance. We all have different tastes and preferences and are fortunate to have so much gear to choose from.
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A very valid point. Maybe DynAudio needs to show with Luxman.


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You certainly gave the 60's opportunity, we just like what we like. Sorry it didn't work out, I know what a bad experience that can be. I wonder what Dynaudio did to them, if it was just additional break in or they tweaked them for you.
 
Mike said:
A very valid point. Maybe DynAudio needs to show with Luxman.


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Yes, or why not with that or with that, or try even that other gear, or may the cables or an other room? In my case i'm sure have to replace my brain because it seems to me the audiophile hobby is the ideal place for fortune tellers, believers and collectors non of which fit's my tastes. Sorry, i have to say that, it's just ridiculous. In every other business this tetris-like approach to quality would be perceived as a joke. Anyway, good luck, enjoy, and thanks to everyone for his effort to help me out.
 
Perhaps too many choices is simple too many for some. This hobby is not for everyone
 
audio.bill said:
Is anyone familiar with the statement that a system is only as good as its weakest link? With all due respect to David, I have to believe that applies in this case. I own a pair of the Contour 60 speakers myself and find their performance to be superb, but I'm driving them with the Luxman C-900u and M-900u electronics and commensurate level analog and digital source gear. They replaced the highly praised Magnepan 3.7i in my system and I'm very pleased with the resulting sonic performance. In the first post of this thread David states that he runs his system with a Phase Linear 3000 preamp which after checking dates back to 1978 and cost about $500. Apparently he likes the sound of his older Contours better with his setup and no one can dispute that, but his conclusions about the Contour 60 speakers need to be taken with a grain of salt and an understanding of what type of gear he is driving them with. Personally I find the Contour 60s to perform at a level far above their cost when driven by components which are suitably matched in their level of performance. We all have different tastes and preferences and are fortunate to have so much gear to choose from.
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I echo these sentiments. I am truly astonished at how good the Contour 60s are in my system. My situation is the opposite of the OP. My 60s are basically the least expensive component in my system. IMO, they represent a remarkable bargain.


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I may have stumbled onto the answer to my question why the 60's returned to the OP had a different sound.

A new Contour series is being released with "trickle down tech from the new Confidence series". This may be what the second speaker was, it included the new drivers or whatever is in this new series. The new drivers apparently look quite different from classic Dyn, having a smaller dust cap. So my theory would be easy to confirm.

When Dynaudio was an independent company they did do some strange things regarding bringing out models. They'd build something for fun, end up liking it, then we'd see a new model in the line up or a Special Edition of some kind. However, to my knowledge this is the quickest replacement of a series I've seen from them. And we know they are no longer independent.
 
I may have stumbled onto the answer to my question why the 60's returned to the OP had a different sound.

A new Contour series is being released with "trickle down tech from the new Confidence series". This may be what the second speaker was, it included the new drivers or whatever is in this new series. The new drivers apparently look quite different from classic Dyn, having a smaller dust cap. So my theory would be easy to confirm.

When Dynaudio was an independent company they did do some strange things regarding bringing out models. They'd build something for fun, end up liking it, then we'd see a new model in the line up or a Special Edition of some kind. However, to my knowledge this is the quickest replacement of a series I've seen from them. And we know they are no longer independent.
 
Highly highly unlikely. New tweeter. Same midrange driver but now enclosed in a “cup”. New bass drivers. New crossover with new (much higher) position of speaker terminals.


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