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    Shunyata Research Announces Everest

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    Re: Shunyata Research Announces Everest

    CG/SR - I look forward to your success with this product, God Speed!




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    Re: Shunyata Research Announces Everest

    If you would like to see the backstory visit this thread:

    Ascending to even greater heights

    And early feedback from PumaCat:

    We've reached the Summit and...it's Everest!
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    Congrats Caelin and team. From a loyal customer and Denali 6000T owner this is an eventual upgrade for me.

    Thank you keeping the tower form factor the and price below 10K US MSRP :-)

    The silver is wonderful looking in pictures and i'm sure much so in person.

    Can't wait to start reading reviews and owner impressions soon.

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    Re: Shunyata Research Announces Everest

    What is the relationship between the six zones of isolation and the eight outlets?

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    Re: Shunyata Research Announces Everest

    Zone 1 consists of top two outlets
    Outlets 3 & 4 are individual isolated zone 2 and zone 3 respectively
    Outlets 5 & 6 are individual isolated zone 4 and zone 5 respectively
    Bottom two outlets 7 and 8 constitute zone 6
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    Are these all HC outlets or is it only Zone 1 and 6?

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    Re: Shunyata Research Announces Everest

    Quote Originally Posted by Bar81 View Post
    Are these all HC outlets or is it only Zone 1 and 6?
    They are all equivalent regarding current capacity.
    All high current
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    Thanks. In that case, just curious why Zone 1 and 6 are not subdivided like the middle two outlets?

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    I have already contacted my dealer and he has confirmed they will be ordering a demo unit which I can try in my set-up. My plan is to compare it against my 6000T which has everything save for my amps connected. I will then give the Everest a go with my amps plugged into the unit. With the 6000T I preferred the amps direct into the wall. Looking forward to the A/B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    I have already contacted my dealer and he has confirmed they will be ordering a demo unit which I can try in my set-up. My plan is to compare it against my 6000T which has everything save for my amps connected. I will then give the Everest a go with my amps plugged into the unit. With the 6000T I preferred the amps direct into the wall. Looking forward to the A/B.
    As another 6000T owner, I'm looking forward to reading your comparison between the 6000T and the new Everest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    With the 6000T I preferred the amps direct into the wall. Looking forward to the A/B.
    looking forward to your report as i would refuse a distributor which the amps sound better witout it
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    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    I have already contacted my dealer and he has confirmed they will be ordering a demo unit which I can try in my set-up. My plan is to compare it against my 6000T which has everything save for my amps connected. I will then give the Everest a go with my amps plugged into the unit. With the 6000T I preferred the amps direct into the wall. Looking forward to the A/B.
    Jim I have a couple of questions for you if you donít mind.
    When you say you plug the amps directly into the wall, is that wall outlet a separate circuit from the one the Denali is plugged into? What is the current rating of your AC circuit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGabriel View Post
    Jim I have a couple of questions for you if you donít mind.
    When you say you plug the amps directly into the wall, is that wall outlet a separate circuit from the one the Denali is plugged into? What is the current rating of your AC circuit?
    I have each amp plugged into its own 20 amp circuit and the 6000T is plugged into its own 20 amp circuit.

    I tried several variations over time including just the amps plugged into the 6000T.
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    Re: Shunyata Research Announces Everest

    mr. caelin, just to clarify, the everest is designed to take the amp as well, isnt it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGabriel View Post
    Jim I have a couple of questions for you if you donít mind.
    When you say you plug the amps directly into the wall, is that wall outlet a separate circuit from the one the Denali is plugged into? What is the current rating of your AC circuit?
    Hi Caelin,

    If you would like, I can provide you with apples to apples thoughts once I get mine. All gear on the same circuit with front end into Triton v3 and amps into wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    mr. caelin, just to clarify, the everest is designed to take the amp as well, isnt it?
    Of course, it can accept a 30A dedicated circuit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    I have each amp plugged into its own 20 amp circuit and the 6000T is plugged into its own 20 amp circuit.

    I tried several variations over time including just the amps plugged into the 6000T.
    To be fair, you are using amplifiers that are capable of doubling current into halved loads. 300 to 600 to 1200. And that requires massive amounts of current for a couple of mono blocks. Therefore, the amplifiers should be connected to their own dedicated line. When you plug the amps into the Denali you have essentially cut the total current potential in half. And that does matter when you are using amplifiers of that capacity.

    And I would refer you and other to this post that I made regarding the cable feeds the Everest. The same issues also apply to using multiple dedicated lines. Total current capacity is important especially when using these magnificent amplifiers that really should have their own dedicated line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bar81 View Post
    Hi Caelin,

    If you would like, I can provide you with apples to apples thoughts once I get mine. All gear on the same circuit with front end into Triton v3 and amps into wall.
    I have already done that test. But I look forward to your result and opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGabriel View Post
    Total current capacity is important especially when using these magnificent amplifiers that really should have their own dedicated line.
    at what powerlevel of an amplifier would you recommend to go by theyr own line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    at what powerlevel of an amplifier would you recommend to go by theyr own line?
    Itís not necessarily about being their on own line. It is about total, aggregate, current capacity.

    If you have a single dedicated Line that is 30A rated it will perform as well as two 15A rated lines. That being said there are some noise related advantages to running multiple lines for the audio system.

    If designing a room from scratch or remodelling, I always recommend two dedicated lines for an audio system. One line for source equipment and one for the amplifiers as Jim has done.

    Someone might say, ďWell, if the circuit breaker doesnít blow then the single is capable of running the system just fine.Ē Not true actually if you are looking for best sound quality. For instance a typical 15A circuit will have 14 gauge wire in the wall. Letís say that your audio consumes about 50% of the total continuous capacity of that line, so about 7-8 amps. This is well within the rating and safety for that line. However, this does not take into account the DTCD behaviour. As you use more of the capacity of the line itís DTCD headroom will be reduced which is needed by high current amplifiers. This is due to current compressive effects caused by the DC resistance and the impedance of the wiring in the wall and to a lesser degree the thermal breakers in the electrical panel.

    So two lines gives you more DTCD capacity which you will hear as more dynamic headroom for your system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGabriel View Post
    I have already done that test. But I look forward to your result and opinion.
    No worries. You might have missed my question above but why are Zone 1 and 6 not subdivided like the middle two outlets? The Denali v2 has every outlet subdivided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bar81 View Post
    No worries. You might have missed my question above but why are Zone 1 and 6 not subdivided like the middle two outlets? The Denali v2 has every outlet subdivided.
    There are only 6 zones possible with the design we are using. Otherwise we would have to double the inner capacity which would give us 12 zones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGabriel View Post
    There are only 6 zones possible with the design we are using. Otherwise we would have to double the inner capacity which would give us 12 zones.
    I suspected it was a space issue but thanks for confirming.

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    while there is a thx bottom, i like to do a loud
    THX FOR THIS LONG EXPLANATION!!
    it did enhance my understanding of the whole
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    Congrats Caelin and team. From a loyal customer and Denali 6000T owner this is an eventual upgrade for me.

    Thank you keeping the tower form factor the and price below 10K US MSRP :-)

    The silver is wonderful looking in pictures and i'm sure much so in person.

    Can't wait to start reading reviews and owner impressions soon.
    Has the price been officially posted somewhere?
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    It's listed on the website assuming you are in the US

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    Quote Originally Posted by asindc View Post
    Has the price been officially posted somewhere?
    Many people speculated that the price would or should be $15-20K. If we priced our products based upon their performance and build quality it would certainly justify that price level. However, we have a different philosophy of pricing based upon our production costs and a reasonable profit.

    US Retail - $8,000

    International pricing is set by each countryís distributor. For those that donít know, US retail prices do not include taxes and VAT. So for instance, EU prices would include customs fees, VAT and transportation costs plus distributor markups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGabriel View Post
    No internal picture (as whole unit) ? 😁

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    Why would they?
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    Just out of curiosity and in the past Caelin has shared the internal picture of Denali 6000/s v2, and why not ☺️

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    Because competitors from other countries follow this forum also and the Everest hasn't even reached the market yet. I wouldn't think he would want a Far East competitor attempting to reverse engineer from interior photos. What good would those interior photos do you anyway?
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    Re: Shunyata Research Announces Everest

    My curious mind would also like to see the internal photos. As for reverse engineering. Presumably their product patents would protect them from reverse engineering. And I don't recall fake Shunyata gear popping up anywhere. Unlike some other brands like PS Audio and Audioquest and a few others that have their cable products copied.
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    Well, I donít think they can reverse engineering based on photo only.
    I requested internal photo of denali 6000sv2 in the past (post #64 in link below) and Caelin was happily provided the photo, of course it is up to Caelin, but again, why not 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Because competitors from other countries follow this forum also and the Everest hasn't even reached the market yet. I wouldn't think he would want a Far East competitor attempting to reverse engineer from interior photos. What good would those interior photos do you anyway?
    True. But most of the perpetrators are domestic.

    Thatís why we contain all circuits in a coffin like container that is potted with a concrete like material. It also ensures that there is no corrosion or possibility that connections might loosen over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGabriel View Post
    True. But most of the perpetrators are domestic.

    Thatís why we contain all circuits in a coffin like container that is potted with a concrete like material. It also ensures that there is no corrosion or possibility that connections might loosen over time.

    Woow, thanks Caelin.
    It explains Zone 1 and Zone 6 situation 😜

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    My curious mind would also like to see the internal photos. As for reverse engineering. Presumably their product patents would protect them from reverse engineering. And I don't recall fake Shunyata gear popping up anywhere. Unlike some other brands like PS Audio and Audioquest and a few others that have their cable products copied.
    Wrong. Most people arenít stupid enough to blatantly copy a product in total. How do you know if a filter circuit has been copied?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondo101 View Post
    Well, I donít think they can reverse engineering based on photo only.
    I requested internal photo of denali 6000sv2 in the past (post #64 in link below) and Caelin was happily provided the photo, of course it is up to Caelin, but again, why not 😁

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    You are right. We not only do we show internal photos, we also explain why our products are superior and when possible we explain the technology or point you to the patents. Some things we choose to keep proprietary for obvious reasons. KPIP would be an example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondo101 View Post
    Woow, thanks Caelin.
    It explains Zone 1 and Zone 6 situation 😜
    Yes, to keep production cost down we use certain components across multiple products. Thatís how we make products at half the expected price points.

    The coffin is used in the Alpha, Sigma, Denali and Everest products. Whatís in the coffin varies according to the specific product. But as you can see it was designed to be modular for 6 zones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGabriel View Post
    Yes, to keep production cost down we use certain components across multiple products. Thatís how we make products at half the expected price points.

    The coffin is used in the Alpha, Sigma, Denali and Everest products. Whatís in the coffin varies according to the specific product. But as you can see it was designed to be modular for 6 zones.
    Thanks Caelin,
    I am happy with my Denali 6000 and 2000 combo, I will wait for upcoming 6000 ďcompanionĒ
    So, will it be CMode Filter plus additional QRBB supercharger?

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    Re: Shunyata Research Announces Everest

    Supercharged QR/BB is possible
    CMode due to massive size canít be done.
    And Everest exclusive for now.
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    Thanks Caelin,
    I will stop now 😊

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondo101 View Post
    Thanks Caelin,
    I will stop now 😊
    Itís all good my friend. Nothing wrong with asking questions.
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    First off I own a Triton V3 and Typhon v1. Very nice products and I plan on evaluating and most likely upgrading to the Everest. I wanted to buy a Typhon QR back in February but it was discontinued (while being shown as available on the website). Major downer.

    Being the curious type I gave the product pictured a try. (I am sure Caelin has fully dissected it). To me it seems to be too strong if that makes sense. It really seems to steal dynamics from the system. There are a lot of different ferroelectric materials that absorb HF noise. The different materials also have peak absorption in different frequency bands. I am not sure exactly what "mix" Shunyata uses nor do I know what "mix" this product uses. But I would make a strong guess that the material used in the two products are not the same. Anybody can order a copper tube, ferroelectic, a wire and epoxy it all together and hope for the best. Do this a few hundred times to get the "best" mix and you might end up with something that sounds as good as the Typhon. I think part of what you pay for is that fact that Caelin has probably ordered every type of ferroelectric and found the best mix through a lot of trial and error as well as measuring the impact.

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    As you have pointed out, no productís performance is dependent upon one part or one technology. Everything matters. It takes knowledge, time and patience to design a great product.
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    Everest on the way and question for Caelin

    My Everest will ship next Tuesday along with an Omega XC to use with it. Since I already own a Typhon QR, Iíll see if the Everest sounds better alone or with the Typhon into its dedicated 20 amp AC line with of my front end gear (2 DACs, SACD Transport, preamp and music server) and compare with the Typhon/Denali 6000v2 which Iím using now.

    I plan on doing everything on a stepwise basis; first using the Everest into the Typhon with my original Sigma v1 power cord and Sigma umbilical cord. Then Iíll try the Everest with the Omega XC from the wall outlet with the new Sigma Reference umbilical cord from Typhon to Everest. Finally Iíll use the Everest sans Typhon with both the original Sigma v1 and then with the Omega to see what the Omega adds to the mix . Maybe the Typhon with the Everest will then become redundant and no longer needed?

    Caelin, I do have a question for you for upgrades down the line:

    Since your new line of power cords have just came out and very few are in the field and I know that this is impossible to know without trying first, do you think that upgrading the Sigma v1 PCs to the Reference NR into both of my DACs (Ayre QX-5 & PS Audio DirectStream) might make a larger improvement than the the Omega NRís to my Ayre R series mono-block amps which run on their their own dedicated 20 amp AC circuits or try the Omegas with my Ayre amps first? In other words, if it were you, which would you try first? Thanks and appreciated.
    STEREO: Aurender N10, Ayre QX-5, Ayre KX-R TWENTY, Ayre MX-R TWENTY, PS Audio DirectStream & PS Audio DMP, Sonus Faber Stradivari speakers, Wireworld Platinum Eclipse 8 speaker cables, Shunyata Research Sigma and WireWorld Platinum Eclipse 8 interconnects, Shunyata Research Sigma v1, Omega XC, & Synergistic Research Galileo power cords, Shunyata Everest power distributor, Dedicated 20amp AC lines with Oyaide Duplexes.

    A/V SYSTEM: Sony A9G 77Ē OLED (main), Sony A9F 65Ē OLED, Sony A8G 65ĒOLED , Anthem MCA525, Anthem AVM 60, Lexicon DD-8 for Atmos, Sonus Faber Amati Futura L+R, ProAc Response CC, AT surrounds, Triad Atmos ceiling speakers x4 , JL112E, Oppo 203 & 103, TiVo Bolt, Apple 4KTV, Shunyata Research Denali 6000/S v2 & Shunyata Research Triton v3. Auralex room tx, black-out curtains, Audioquest speaker & HDMI cables, Shunyata Research Sigma & Venom V10NR power cords. Dedicated 20 amp AC lines.

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    Re: Everest on the way and question for Caelin

    Quote Originally Posted by RLF View Post
    My Everest will ship next Tuesday along with an Omega XC to use with it. Since I already own a Typhon QR, Iíll see if the Everest sounds better alone or with the Typhon into its dedicated 20 amp AC line with of my front end gear (2 DACs, SACD Transport, preamp and music server) and compare with the Typhon/Denali 6000v2 which Iím using now.

    I plan on doing everything on a stepwise basis; first using the Everest into the Typhon with my original Sigma v1 power cord and Sigma umbilical cord. Then Iíll try the Everest with the Omega XC from the wall outlet with the new Sigma Reference umbilical cord from Typhon to Everest. Finally Iíll use the Everest sans Typhon with both the original Sigma v1 and then with the Omega to see what the Omega adds to the mix . Maybe the Typhon with the Everest will then become redundant and no longer needed?

    Caelin, I do have a question for you for upgrades down the line:

    Since your new line of power cords have just came out and very few are in the field and I know that this is impossible to know without trying first, do you think that upgrading the Sigma v1 PCs to the Reference NR into both of my DACs (Ayre QX-5 & PS Audio DirectStream) might make a larger improvement than the the Omega NRís to my Ayre R series mono-block amps which run on their their own dedicated 20 amp AC circuits or try the Omegas with my Ayre amps first? In other words, if it were you, which would you try first? Thanks and appreciated.

    RE: Testing Everest Combinations

    My advice is to remove all power devices and test the Everest by itself, first. Give it a good week to settle (burn-in). Use it with the Omega XC so they can both settle together. They are new and will change rapidly in the first week of use. So you want them to stabilize before making any judgements. This also gives a good amount of time to really understand what the Everest / Omega are doing.

    Then, after that, reintroduce one component/cable at a time to hear what they do or donít do for performance.

    RE: PC Cable Upgrades
    Every cable matters to overall system performance. The cable that matters most in not necessarily a ďtypeĒ of component as in amplifier or source component. It is rather a complex contextual decision matrix that is individual to each system. Generally speaking the cable that has the biggest impact will be the cable that is the poorest or weakest performing cable in the system. When you upgrade that cable is when you will say OMG. Unfortunately, it also gives you a false sense of knowing that the component is the most important component in the system. When truthfully it was simply that the power cable for that component was underperforming compared to the others in the system.

    This is why I advise upgrading PCs in a balanced method. Choosing a level of performance that you can afford to apply across all components instead of buying a very expensive cord for your amps and then skimping on the components. Buying power cables at a lower price level but applying them across all components will give better overall system performance than using a very expensive cord on a single component.

    There are certain digital components that donít follow this rule but those are all computer audio related.
    Caelin Gabriel
    President
    Shunyata Research

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