Shunyata Research Announces Everest

still-one said:
I have each amp plugged into its own 20 amp circuit and the 6000T is plugged into its own 20 amp circuit.

I tried several variations over time including just the amps plugged into the 6000T.
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To be fair, you are using amplifiers that are capable of doubling current into halved loads. 300 to 600 to 1200. And that requires massive amounts of current for a couple of mono blocks. Therefore, the amplifiers should be connected to their own dedicated line. When you plug the amps into the Denali you have essentially cut the total current potential in half. And that does matter when you are using amplifiers of that capacity.

And I would refer you and other to this post that I made regarding the cable feeds the Everest. The same issues also apply to using multiple dedicated lines. Total current capacity is important especially when using these magnificent amplifiers that really should have their own dedicated line.

https://www.audioshark.org/shunyata-research-78/ascending-even-greater-heights-18193-page4.html#post303761
 
Bar81 said:
Hi Caelin,

If you would like, I can provide you with apples to apples thoughts once I get mine. All gear on the same circuit with front end into Triton v3 and amps into wall.
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I have already done that test. But I look forward to your result and opinion.
 
u-sound said:
at what powerlevel of an amplifier would you recommend to go by theyr own line?
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It’s not necessarily about being their on own line. It is about total, aggregate, current capacity.

If you have a single dedicated Line that is 30A rated it will perform as well as two 15A rated lines. That being said there are some noise related advantages to running multiple lines for the audio system.

If designing a room from scratch or remodelling, I always recommend two dedicated lines for an audio system. One line for source equipment and one for the amplifiers as Jim has done.

Someone might say, “Well, if the circuit breaker doesn’t blow then the single is capable of running the system just fine.” Not true actually if you are looking for best sound quality. For instance a typical 15A circuit will have 14 gauge wire in the wall. Let’s say that your audio consumes about 50% of the total continuous capacity of that line, so about 7-8 amps. This is well within the rating and safety for that line. However, this does not take into account the DTCD behaviour. As you use more of the capacity of the line it’s DTCD headroom will be reduced which is needed by high current amplifiers. This is due to current compressive effects caused by the DC resistance and the impedance of the wiring in the wall and to a lesser degree the thermal breakers in the electrical panel.

So two lines gives you more DTCD capacity which you will hear as more dynamic headroom for your system.
 
CGabriel said:
I have already done that test. But I look forward to your result and opinion.
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No worries. You might have missed my question above but why are Zone 1 and 6 not subdivided like the middle two outlets? The Denali v2 has every outlet subdivided.
 
Bar81 said:
No worries. You might have missed my question above but why are Zone 1 and 6 not subdivided like the middle two outlets? The Denali v2 has every outlet subdivided.
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There are only 6 zones possible with the design we are using. Otherwise we would have to double the inner capacity which would give us 12 zones.
 
CGabriel said:
There are only 6 zones possible with the design we are using. Otherwise we would have to double the inner capacity which would give us 12 zones.
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I suspected it was a space issue but thanks for confirming.
 
while there is a thx bottom, i like to do a loud
THX FOR THIS LONG EXPLANATION!!
it did enhance my understanding of the whole
 
mdp632 said:
Congrats Caelin and team. From a loyal customer and Denali 6000T owner this is an eventual upgrade for me.

Thank you keeping the tower form factor the and price below 10K US MSRP :-)

The silver is wonderful looking in pictures and i'm sure much so in person.

Can't wait to start reading reviews and owner impressions soon.
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Has the price been officially posted somewhere?
 
asindc said:
Has the price been officially posted somewhere?
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Many people speculated that the price would or should be $15-20K. If we priced our products based upon their performance and build quality it would certainly justify that price level. However, we have a different philosophy of pricing based upon our production costs and a reasonable profit.

US Retail - $8,000

International pricing is set by each country’s distributor. For those that don’t know, US retail prices do not include taxes and VAT. So for instance, EU prices would include customs fees, VAT and transportation costs plus distributor markups.
 
CGabriel said:
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No internal picture (as whole unit) ? 😁
 
Just out of curiosity and in the past Caelin has shared the internal picture of Denali 6000/s v2, and why not ☺️
 
Because competitors from other countries follow this forum also and the Everest hasn't even reached the market yet. I wouldn't think he would want a Far East competitor attempting to reverse engineer from interior photos. What good would those interior photos do you anyway?
 
My curious mind would also like to see the internal photos. As for reverse engineering. Presumably their product patents would protect them from reverse engineering. And I don't recall fake Shunyata gear popping up anywhere. Unlike some other brands like PS Audio and Audioquest and a few others that have their cable products copied.
 
Well, I don’t think they can reverse engineering based on photo only.
I requested internal photo of denali 6000sv2 in the past (post #64 in link below) and Caelin was happily provided the photo, of course it is up to Caelin, but again, why not 😁

Shunyata Denali 6000/S v2
 
Jack said:
Because competitors from other countries follow this forum also and the Everest hasn't even reached the market yet. I wouldn't think he would want a Far East competitor attempting to reverse engineer from interior photos. What good would those interior photos do you anyway?
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True. But most of the perpetrators are domestic.

That’s why we contain all circuits in a coffin like container that is potted with a concrete like material. It also ensures that there is no corrosion or possibility that connections might loosen over time.

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CGabriel said:
True. But most of the perpetrators are domestic.

That’s why we contain all circuits in a coffin like container that is potted with a concrete like material. It also ensures that there is no corrosion or possibility that connections might loosen over time.

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Woow, thanks Caelin.
It explains Zone 1 and Zone 6 situation 😜
 
brodricj said:
My curious mind would also like to see the internal photos. As for reverse engineering. Presumably their product patents would protect them from reverse engineering. And I don't recall fake Shunyata gear popping up anywhere. Unlike some other brands like PS Audio and Audioquest and a few others that have their cable products copied.
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Wrong. Most people aren’t stupid enough to blatantly copy a product in total. How do you know if a filter circuit has been copied?

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