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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
I would have thought International distributors would be required to have local inventory rather than build-to-order.
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The one from Spain and Portugal, I assure you not. I have always had to wait a month for each of my purchases.
It really is great to be an importer like that.
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brodricj
I would have thought International distributors would be required to have local inventory rather than build-to-order.
It makes no sense for any business to keep inventory sitting around as a "carrying cost" or "holding cost", just waiting to be sold to customers. Carrying costs just pass the cost on to the customer in the form of increased prices. An example is a large car dealership that has a lot of cars on the lot. The charges that a dealer pays for having those cars just sit on the lot is a holding cost that impacts margin.
The goal is to have "inventory turns" as rapidly as possible. This is Business 101.
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Not really. It's often the case that manufacturers require their International distributors to hold a certain inventory of stock on hand as a condition of the distributorship agreement.
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Let's see if Business 101 understands it is that an importing company (distributor) collects the orders made by the dealers, places the order to the US manufacturer and pocket a substantial margin. So what added value does it bring to the dealer asking the manufacturer directly?
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I just want to verify from some posts I read here about the new V2 cables. You guys that upgraded from NR cables are saying that the new Venom V10 are better than old Sigma NR? That’s hard one to swallow.
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johnthomas
I just want to verify from some posts I read here about the new V2 cables. You guys that upgraded from NR cables are saying that the new Venom V10 are better than old Sigma NR? That’s hard one to swallow.
I highly doubt that. What folks are saying is that the Alpha V2 is better than Sigma V1.
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Mike
I highly doubt that. What folks are saying is that the Alpha V2 is better than Sigma V1.
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I can swallow that thanks.
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Mike
I highly doubt that. What folks are saying is that the Alpha V2 is better than Sigma V1.
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That is correct and accurate.
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I’ve been trying out the new Alpha V2s NR over the last few days. These cables are impressive. No need to repeat what others have shared on this thread but I can say that impressive is an understatement.
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Good! I'm upgrading my setup from Sigma V1 Digitals and HC's to Alpha 2 NR's and Sigma XC's and considering the outlay and the wait for EU delivery you begin to question, did I do the right thing. But your comment give me hope I'm on the right track. :)
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Understand the Sigma EX benefit over Sigma NR in to PD from a current delivery perspective - just curious how much that would benefit a low power amp/high efficiency speaker set up?
I'm running 8 watt monoblock 300B amps into a V3 fed by a Typhon QR and Sigma NR PC.
I just upgraded from an Alpha NR to the Sigma NR last year so selling the Sigma NR to replace with the Sigma EX would be a big hit.
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With the description of the testimonials so far it seems XC affect both low current sources as well as amps with its more "energized" character(?)
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The Alpha V2s are terrific. I ordered 4 for my new amps. They are that good!
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Has your wife heard the difference between the Alpha and Omega?
Maybe she can upgrade ya? :woot:
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Ha, Ha! No she hasn’t. Although, if Mike gets 4 he’s likely to bring them over and make sure she gets to hear them.
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Hi Caelin.
SigmaV2 Schuko also have CopperCONN connectors?
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Yes, Sigma Schuko (EU) cables have had CopperCONN since V1.
It's only the EU PD's that doesn't have CopperCONN outlets.
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Crion
It's only the EU PD's that doesn't have CopperCONN outlets.
There was never any need to produce our own EU CEE 7/7 sockets since we found an excellent one produced by a German company. The construction of the socket is excellent with good grip and contact integrity and the contacts are made from a high quality copper alloy. Also the sockets use an excellent method of directly bonding very large gauge electrical wires to the socket without the use of ferrules or tiny spades.
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New to the Shunyata family here!--after reading the excellent reports and noting the Mfg involvement in the comments--so reassuring there!--
I sold my NBS Statement PowerCords and ordered a set of Venom NR V10 and 12's to start the "loom" off--but bit concerned now
as I read yesterday on another Forum,that the circuitry in the Plugs and the NR enabling capabilities cause dynamics and sonics to suffer?
Would I have been better to go for the non NR Range?
Thank you for any suggestions,
Bruce
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Bruce
New to the Shunyata family here!--after reading the excellent reports and noting the Mfg involvement in the comments--so reassuring there!--
I sold my NBS Statement PowerCords and ordered a set of Venom NR V10 and 12's to start the "loom" off--but bit concerned now
as I read yesterday on another Forum,that the circuitry in the Plugs and the NR enabling capabilities cause dynamics and sonics to suffer?
Would I have been better to go for the non NR Range?
Thank you for any suggestions,
Bruce
Bruce - I have 4 Alpha V2 NRs connected to my amps. I have not seen/heard any issues with dynamics and negative impact to sonics. I liked them so much after trying them out, I bought them. You will not be disappointed.
Cheers!
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Yes. Shunyata gear makes amps sound better. My amps each have a dedicated 20 amp line, and sounded great. I added a Denali 2000 to each amp, and they sounded even better.
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Bruce
New to the Shunyata family here!--after reading the excellent reports and noting the Mfg involvement in the comments--so reassuring there!--
I sold my NBS Statement PowerCords and ordered a set of Venom NR V10 and 12's to start the "loom" off--but bit concerned now
as I read yesterday on another Forum,that the circuitry in the Plugs and the NR enabling capabilities cause dynamics and sonics to suffer?
Would I have been better to go for the non NR Range?
Thank you for any suggestions,
Bruce
I have 2 Shunyata cables, Delta NR for amplifier and Venom NR V10 for Lumin. Excellent cables, sound much better than my previous cables (Wireworld Electra 7)
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HI Guys,
Thank you for the update and observations on my Query--Yep I'll get them installed and all should be kosher.
Much appreciated for the positive comments on the items.
Bruce
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BlueFox
...Shunyata gear makes amps sound better....
Depends on the pedigree of your amps as to how much mileage you get. The Denali made no difference to the sound of my amps what-so-ever.
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Has anyone had a chance to compare the Delta V2 NR to the Alpha V2 NR? Alpha's look to be roughly double the cost - wondering how close the Delta's might get to Alpha at a 50% haircut in price....
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BullBearDC
Has anyone had a chance to compare the Delta V2 NR to the Alpha V2 NR? Alpha's look to be roughly double the cost - wondering how close the Delta's might get to Alpha at a 50% haircut in price....
The Delta NR v2 is really excellent, an outstanding power cord and a superb value with respect to performance for the price.
The Alpha NR v2, though, is on another level altogether.
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Puma Cat
The Delta NR v2 is really excellent, an outstanding power cord and a superb value with respect to performance for the price.
The Alpha NR v2, though, is on another level altogether.
Puma, correct me if I'm wrong but, stepping up the Alpha level where is the Zitron technology makes its debut.
So, alpha is much more resolving (less distortion) than delta as a result.
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mdp632
Puma, correct me if I'm wrong but, stepping up the Alpha level where is the Zitron technology makes its debut.
So, alpha is much more resolving (less distortion) than delta as a result.
That's true for the interconnects, but the current generation PC's do not utilize Zitron technology as far as I know.
And Alpha brings more to the table than just increased resolution...with Alpha you are getting into a level where traditional audiophile lexicon no longer applies.
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I have received my new Sigma XC. I've tried uploading a picture, but can't find the add picture icons. It also doesn't allow me to reply to a message, it stays in a loop. Does anyone else have these problems?
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nonesup
I have received my new Sigma XC. I've tried uploading a picture, but can't find the add picture icons. It also doesn't allow me to reply to a message, it stays in a loop. Does anyone else have these problems?
Not from a power cord.
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On Friday, my new Sigma XC arrived to power my Denali 6000 V2, replacing Sigma NR V1. I am amazed at the improvement this cable brings to my system. Puma Cat and SC Audiophile have already explained it better than me, but really the sound is much CLEANER, you hear micro details that used to be harder to hear or just didn't hear. The orchestral sound is wonderfully dense and heavy, but liquid at the same time, it's crazy and, above all, it allows me to increase the volume (almost wondering) without it getting congested. I don't know when I will be able to do it, but I know that inevitably I will have to change my Sigma NR V1 for V2, simply any resistance is useless.
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nonesup
On Friday, my new Sigma XC arrived to power my Denali 6000 V2, replacing Sigma NR V1. I am amazed at the improvement this cable brings to my system. Puma Cat and SC Audiophile have already explained it better than me, but really the sound is much CLEANER, you hear micro details that used to be harder to hear or just didn't hear. The orchestral sound is wonderfully dense and heavy, but liquid at the same time, it's crazy and, above all, it allows me to increase the volume (almost wondering) without it getting congested. I don't know when I will be able to do it, but I know that inevitably I will have to change my Sigma NR V1 for V2, simply any resistance is useless.
Hi Francisco,
Yes, your description of the new Sigma XC is accurate. In particular, your comment, "but really the sound is much CLEANER, you hear micro details that used to be harder to hear or just didn't hear. The orchestral sound is wonderfully dense and heavy, but liquid at the same time, it's crazy and, above all, it allows me to increase the volume (almost wondering) without it getting congested." is one of the predominant features of this cable. I find that the presentation is so clear, focused, and articulated, that I can "listen in" to a specific musician within in a full orchestra and hear what that musician is playing against the background of the full orchestra. Plus as you say, all the little micro-details are fully resolved, even when the orchestra scales to fortissimo.
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Stephen,
As an old one-time supply chain guy, I would agree with you for most businesses inventory is evil.
However, the long time commercial/marketing guy in me says there are certain circumstances where, in the interest of customer satisfaction and/or under competitive pressure, inventory is a necessary evil. A financial liability for sure but a requirement to generate sales.
Distributors are used by manufacturers/marketers to enable access to markets that are otherwise too costly to reach. The distributors receive margin that ‘could’ go the the manufacturer but is value added because they provide that market access and thus increase overall sales for the manufacturers.
The high value added audio business is one where a cautious balance must be found between inventory customers can listen to and the financial risk/cost of holding that inventory.
Those that understand what sells and what doesn’t will survive but I have to believe it’s a TOUGH business.
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crwilli
Stephen,
As an old one-time supply chain guy, I would agree with you for most businesses.
However, the long time commercial/marketing guy in me says there are certain circumstances where, in the interest of customer satisfaction and/or under competitive pressure, inventory is a necessary evil. A financial liability for sure but a requirement to generate sales.
Distributors are used by manufacturers/marketers to enable access to markets that are otherwise too costly to reach. The distributors receive margin that ‘could’ go the the manufacturer but is value added because they provide that market access and thus increase overall sales for the manufacturers.
The high value added audio business is one where a cautious balance must be found between inventory customers can listen to and the financial risk/cost of holding that inventory.
Those that understand what sells and what doesn’t will survive but I have to believe it’s a TOUGH business.
Tricky when a lot of the high end audio is not mass produced and then comes when it can be produced at higher levels, demand is low. Your right this is a tough business/industry
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Originally Posted by
crwilli
Stephen,
As an old one-time supply chain guy, I would agree with you for most businesses inventory is evil.
However, the long time commercial/marketing guy in me says there are certain circumstances where, in the interest of customer satisfaction and/or under competitive pressure, inventory is a necessary evil. A financial liability for sure but a requirement to generate sales.
Distributors are used by manufacturers/marketers to enable access to markets that are otherwise too costly to reach. The distributors receive margin that ‘could’ go the the manufacturer but is value added because they provide that market access and thus increase overall sales for the manufacturers.
The high value added audio business is one where a cautious balance must be found between inventory customers can listen to and the financial risk/cost of holding that inventory.
Those that understand what sells and what doesn’t will survive but I have to believe it’s a TOUGH business.
Really excellent post, Craig. Thank your for sharing your expertise and experience.
Cheers, mate!
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crwilli
...The high value added audio business is one where a cautious balance must be found between inventory customers can listen to and the financial risk/cost of holding that inventory.
In my market the dealer model is to not stock any Shunyata product. The salesman didn't even know the business was a Shunyata dealer. If I want something Shunyata, I place an order, pay a deposit, and delivery might be 5 weeks later. Or not at all. There is no possibility of in-store or in-home demo. That is what I call "box shifting". But I'm not complaining because it seems their pricing is quite reasonable, and if they aren't marking up much I don't blame them for box shifting.
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I suspect if I was in your position, I wouldn't stock Cables either. In fact, in an ideal world, I wouldn’t stock anything but the absolute minimum I could get away with. As long as there is a market demand, a reasonable lead time for supply and little competition, you don’t need that cost and liability.
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crwilli
I suspect if I was in your position, I wouldn't stock Cables either. In fact, in an ideal world, I wouldn’t stock anything but the absolute minimum I could get away with. As long as there is a market demand, a reasonable lead time for supply and little competition, you don’t need that cost and liability.
Dealers need to have ample demo inventory for in store and loan. What’s difficult for a dealer is that some manufacturers want you to have everything they sell and frankly, some items won’t sell and will just collect dust. We are spending our money and have to be careful shoppers. We have to ensure that what we bring in is something we would buy if we were a consumer and items that offer a valid buying argument and value to a consumer. If after a demo yourself as the dealer, an amp is going to be outclassed by 5 other amps in your store, then it’s not worth buying for demo.
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Mike
Dealers need to have ample demo inventory for in store and loan. What’s difficult for a dealer is that some manufacturers want you to have everything they sell and frankly, some items won’t sell and will just collect dust. We are spending our money and have to be careful shoppers. We have to ensure that what we bring in is something we would buy if we were a consumer and items that offer a valid buying argument and value to a consumer. If after a demo yourself as the dealer, an amp is going to be outclassed by 5 other amps in your store, then it’s not worth buying for demo.
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You seem to have figured out how to balance all the variables Mike. Allowing demos is a great service you provide. Not every brick and mortar dealer will do it.