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    What Music Server and Dac Will Out Perform My Turntable and Phono Preamp

    I so much enjoy my analog setup over my digital setup. (See signature below) I do realize that my analog setup costs more than my digital setup but at what cost would it take to surpass my analog setup and what would you recommend?
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    Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Bryston BDA-3 Music Server: ​Aurender N100H
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    Re: What Music Server and Dac Will Out Perform My Turntable and Phono Preamp

    nagra cd, tube dac, psu, audionet humboldt, wilson tunetot, odin

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    HA-N1Z/2EX-S40

    this is the topmodel....looking at it myself
    nagra cd, tube dac, psu, audionet humboldt, wilson tunetot, odin

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    Re: What Music Server and Dac Will Out Perform My Turntable and Phono Preamp

    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    HA-N1Z/2EX-S40

    this is the topmodel....looking at it myself
    Thanks...I’ll have a look.
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    Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
    Amps: PS Audio BHK Signature 300 Mono, McIntosh MC207 Preamp: PS Audio BHK Signature and Gold Note PH-10 Phono Stage/PSU-10 Power Supply Turntable: VPI HR-X 12.7 TONEARM (2) and SDS
    Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Bryston BDA-3 Music Server: ​Aurender N100H
    SSP: Marantz AV8801 Cables: Wireworld Electra 7 (P) Wireworld Eclipse 7 (I) Wireworld Eclipse 6 and 7 Biwired (S) Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (USB) AC Power Regeneration: PS Audio DirectStream P15 Power Plant and Shunyata Denali 6000s V2.

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    Paul

    What sort of budget are we looking at?
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    Re: What Music Server and Dac Will Out Perform My Turntable and Phono Preamp

    Hi Jack...I’m really not in the market just yet. All I know is that my VPI HRX/Gold Note/Cadenza Black bests my N100H/BDA-3 and I want to know what it will take for a digital front end to surpass my analog front end. This would include what the components and what budget it would take.

    To maybe put it another way, my analog front end is over 3 times more than my digital front end. Would it take 3 to 4 times more money than my N100H/BDA-3 to surpass my VPI HRX/Gold Note/Cadenza Black?
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    Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
    Amps: PS Audio BHK Signature 300 Mono, McIntosh MC207 Preamp: PS Audio BHK Signature and Gold Note PH-10 Phono Stage/PSU-10 Power Supply Turntable: VPI HR-X 12.7 TONEARM (2) and SDS
    Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Bryston BDA-3 Music Server: ​Aurender N100H
    SSP: Marantz AV8801 Cables: Wireworld Electra 7 (P) Wireworld Eclipse 7 (I) Wireworld Eclipse 6 and 7 Biwired (S) Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (USB) AC Power Regeneration: PS Audio DirectStream P15 Power Plant and Shunyata Denali 6000s V2.

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    Re: What Music Server and Dac Will Out Perform My Turntable and Phono Preamp

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    In the end even after an upgrade to your digital you may still always prefer the sound of your analog rig as many do. It's going to come down to if you get it close will the convenience over time win out. You can start by exploring an upgrade on the streamer side with the Bryston and see what that gets you. I would stay with one of the major brands if re-sale is a concern. To me that would be the Auralic Aries G2, Innuous Zenith Mk III, Lumin U1 and whatever the comparable current Aurender model is. They all sound slightly different as they have different opinions about what things are most important but in the end it may be more important which model has the features, connections and software that you prefer. DACs are a more personal thing like speakers so unless you have the opportunity to try a bunch of them in your system from the local dealers you will have to find a sound profile that appeals to you from reviews or other audiophiles and chose from the models in that group. But in the end with the abundance of different models out there you can find a combo that appeals to you without the outlay of a top flight vinyl rig and gets you close but you may still be over five figures for the combo.
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    MSB Discrete with dual power supplies. Pick either Roon Ethernet or USB module. $13,450 MSRP. It sounds like R2R tape. The most analog digital I’ve ever heard. The only thing that beats it is the higher up MSB models.


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    What Music Server and Dac Will Out Perform My Turntable and Phono Preamp

    From my experience and at our level no server and DAC will outperform a turntable and phono - it is two completely different approaches, and both serve equal purposes, playing music.

    Then comes the recording, IMO the most important attribute. Listening to an album produced and recorded in its native format should tell you what to select on you preamp for listening pleasure.

    Personally I enjoy playing and listening to records since adding analog, but still play and enjoy my digital.



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    That was my point. Even if you get the gear to equal or close you may still prefer the sound of one over the other as they are just different. Then convenience becomes a deciding factor or for some physical constraints.
    Main - JVC QL-Y7/Denon DL-301 Mk II, Gold Note PH-10, Nuprime CDT-8, Auralic Aries G1, Aqua La Voce S3, Supratek Chardonnay, Van Alstine Vision SET-400, Verity Otello, (2) Rythmik F12SE, Audio Envy IC's , Triode Wire Lab PC's, USB & SC's, PS Audio Stellar P3, PI Audio Uberbuss, Timbernation rack

    Family Room - Oppo UDP-203, Teac NT-505, Audia Flight FL Three S, Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary, (2) Rythmik F-12G, Audio Sensibility SC & IC's, Neotech PC's, SurgeX SA-1810

 

 
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