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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    I had some 93.5 db ef speakers that did have some mid horn color, but drum kits played back on those speakers was really impressive. the dynamics, slam, and presence outweighed their shortcomings and I used them for 25 years. They were also very good low volume speakers.
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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by steve59 View Post
    I had some 93.5 db ef speakers that did have some mid horn color, but drum kits played back on those speakers was really impressive. the dynamics, slam, and presence outweighed their shortcomings and I used them for 25 years. They were also very good low volume speakers.
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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Kef R105/3 from 1990, I mention them more to share my definition of jump factor then a recommendation.
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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    The horn membrane moves nanometers and produces the most dynamic sound. I just don’t think any traditional box speaker can compete in this one area. What is your opposition to horn speakers? I would encourage you to listen to some Avantgarde’s. Duo XD or above preferably.


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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by steve59 View Post
    Kef R105/3 from 1990, I mention them more to share my definition of jump factor then a recommendation.
    I was trying to understand how your old KEF speakers could have “mid horn color” when there are are no horns used in that design.
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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    I was trying to understand how your old KEF speakers could have “mid horn color” when there are are no horns used in that design.
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    Midrange acts as the horn for tweeter. Some older designs had similar complaints.

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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    The horn membrane moves nanometers and produces the most dynamic sound. I just don’t think any traditional box speaker can compete in this one area. What is your opposition to horn speakers? I would encourage you to listen to some Avantgarde’s. Duo XD or above preferably.


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    Oh I have no opposition to horns. I just assumed they wouldn’t be a good match to my solid state electronics.

    I’ve never experienced a modern horn.

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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
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    Midrange acts as the horn for tweeter. Some older designs had similar complaints.
    the tweeter and magnet assembly wasn't any bigger than an inch across and maybe 5/8's deep with about a 2-1/2" stem/mount coming off the back and that thing put out!
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