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    Roy Gregory Compares ARC Ref 10, VTL 7.5 Series III, and CJ GAT Series 2...

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    Re: Roy Gregory Compares ARC Ref 10, VTL 7.5 Series III, and CJ GAT Series 2...

    cj GAT rules
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    Re: Roy Gregory Compares ARC Ref 10, VTL 7.5 Series III, and CJ GAT Series 2...

    The author states there is no clear overall winner. Once again, it comes down to proper component matching and personal taste.

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    Re: Roy Gregory Compares ARC Ref 10, VTL 7.5 Series III, and CJ GAT Series 2...

    RG is quite comprehensive and detailed in his reviews, yet concise. When I listen to a component that he has reviewed, most times, I find that he is quite accurate in his description of the sound quality and in giving a flavour of what you might expect.

    Even in private e-mails, he does not say if one component is "better" than another. What he does offer to do is let you know which component provides more of the aspects that you value, be it presence/immediacy, tonality, harmonics, dynamics, soundstaging, etc.

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    Re: Roy Gregory Compares ARC Ref 10, VTL 7.5 Series III, and CJ GAT Series 2...

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoludio View Post
    RG is quite comprehensive and detailed in his reviews, yet concise. When I listen to a component that he has reviewed, most times, I find that he is quite accurate in his description of the sound quality and in giving a flavour of what you might expect.

    Even in private e-mails, he does not say if one component is "better" than another. What he does offer to do is let you know which component provides more of the aspects that you value, be it presence/immediacy, tonality, harmonics, dynamics, soundstaging, etc.
    Hi Nicoludio,

    Overall, I enjoyed the article and thought Roy Gregory put a lot of time, effort and care into creating as objective a comparison as possible. Having heard the Ref 10 with a number of different amplifiers and knowing what performance it is capable of, left me wondering if the Berning pairing was less than an ideal match due to the Ref 10's higher output or just a general lack of synergy.

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    Re: Roy Gregory Compares ARC Ref 10, VTL 7.5 Series III, and CJ GAT Series 2...

    If I were setting up a serious minimalist singled ended tube-based system, the Gat 2 would be the pre i'd put in the Christmas stocking. Love that champagne facia & natural sound .

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    Re: Roy Gregory Compares ARC Ref 10, VTL 7.5 Series III, and CJ GAT Series 2...

    thanks for highlighting that report . I saw an arc anniversary in for repair last week . it was truly a thing of beauty. not easy to accommodate those boxes though . some years ago I had the vtl 5.5 and it was very enjoyable , never heard the 7.5 . there is one in UK in classifieds now for 11k

    must try to get to hear some vtl sometime , we don`t hear a lot about the brand in UK but several dealers

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    Re: Roy Gregory Compares ARC Ref 10, VTL 7.5 Series III, and CJ GAT Series 2...

    Glad I found this. I’m actually looking to upgrade my preamp. Considering the following:

    CJ GAT 2
    ar ref 10
    DAgostino Momentum
    constellation Virgo III
    Merill Audio Christine

    Would love more first hand experience with these preamps. Is the SE design of the CJ VAC a deal breaker as I have a balance system.

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    Re: Roy Gregory Compares ARC Ref 10, VTL 7.5 Series III, and CJ GAT Series 2...

    What amp do you have? I forget.

    VAC Master and ARC Ref 10 are spectacular. I love my GAT2 and I don’t think there’s an issue with it being RCA or single ended only unless you only have XLR inputs. I don’t like using adapters but they are an option.

    I’m sure the Constellation is wonderful too. I have no experience with the Merill Audio preamp.



    Quote Originally Posted by Redphu View Post
    Glad I found this. I’m actually looking to upgrade my preamp. Considering the following:

    CJ GAT 2
    ar ref 10
    DAgostino Momentum
    constellation Virgo III
    Merill Audio Christine

    Would love more first hand experience with these preamps. Is the SE design of the CJ VAC a deal breaker as I have a balance system.
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    Re: Roy Gregory Compares ARC Ref 10, VTL 7.5 Series III, and CJ GAT Series 2...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redphu View Post
    Glad I found this. Iím actually looking to upgrade my preamp. Considering the following:

    CJ GAT 2
    ar ref 10
    DAgostino Momentum
    constellation Virgo III
    Merill Audio Christine

    Would love more first hand experience with these preamps. Is the SE design of the CJ VAC a deal breaker as I have a balance system.
    If you get to listen to the GAT and the Momentum, please let me know your thoughts. I own the GAT, but also own the Momentum Stereo, so would luv to hear the Momentum Pre amp.

    the GAT is better sounding than the Dagostino Progression pre amp when I demoed it.
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