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    Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Pretty cool piece. Been looking for a minimalist preamp that still had a remote. Arrived fast considering it shipped from Switzerland. Got it In like 3 business days. Amazing. Nice build.
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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    So how it sounds ?
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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMcIntosh View Post
    So how it sounds ?
    well, I've only had it for a few hours, but it sounds great so far. I've been using a primaluna preamp which I love but I wanted to try this job because I've been looking for a minimalist solid stare preamp with remote for a long time and I wanted to see if it would squeeze out even more transparency from my system. The PL was already excellent. All I can say so far is that the job is at least equally transparent as the PL preamp and that the job has cleaner tighter bass. Imaging is also really good. I feel like I'm getting a more stable image with the speakers disappearing more. But some of the texture and richness the primaluna was bringing is reduced. That's to be expected from a solid state vs a tube preamp.
    System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    jaxwired

    How do you like the Wyred's version of the ICE modules sound? I have the STP-SE and have thought about trying either one of their amps or integrated amps.

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    My first wyred product was their sti-1000 integrated amp. I loved it. All I can say is that I have a reputation for being a shameless box swapper but the wyred gear has stayed longer than anything else in the past 5 years. If you can get past the audiophile bias against class D, it's superb gear. IMO class D amps are the best bang for your buck in high end amplifiers. Sound competes with class AB amps I've owned that ran twice the price. And it's as good as the very best of em.

    Ummm, this job preamp is starting to sound pretty special now. Might be the beer ear talking, but...wow...getting some killer sound now.
    System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    May have to give one of the amps a try with the STP-SE.

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    May have to give one of the amps a try with the STP-SE.
    That's what I'm using!

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    Does it sound good at low volumes?

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    I - and no doubt others - would be very grateful for detailed descriptions of the sonic character of the JOB Pre2. In particular, more about the comparison between the Prima Luna Prologue (which I know) and the Job.
    Do you have the impression that the quality of the interconnects will make a noticeable difference? Were you using any XLRs in your setup prior to receiving the JOB? If so, what differences - if any - have you noticed so far? Sorry for all the questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertVL View Post
    Does it sound good at low volumes?
    sounds superb at low volumes. I think the PL preamp requires a bit more juice to sound it's best, not so with this pre2 IMO. Really enjoying moderate volume levels right now. Sound is crystal clear. I know it's cliche but it's not showing any edginess right now as far as I can tell. But it's for sure a smidge more up front then the PL which works fine in my system. Cymbal decay is better on the PL though.
    System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.

    System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by commeire View Post
    I - and no doubt others - would be very grateful for detailed descriptions of the sonic character of the JOB Pre2. In particular, more about the comparison between the Prima Luna Prologue (which I know) and the Job.
    Do you have the impression that the quality of the interconnects will make a noticeable difference? Were you using any XLRs in your setup prior to receiving the JOB? If so, what differences - if any - have you noticed so far? Sorry for all the questions
    will continue to post my impressions.

    The primaluna preamp is all RCA so I was not using any XLRs. Don't put much stock in XLR being superior anyway. Have never been superior when I've used them in my systems in the past. I don't have any long IC runs though. And I really like my RCA interconnects which are made by "the chord company".

    Let me get some more seat time under my belt and I will post further impressions. I will also switch the PL back in to see if I'm struck by the difference. The PL is no slouch but obviously a very different design.
    System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    My system

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    System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.

    System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Oh, it was silly of me to inquire about XLRs when in fact I knew that the PL is single-ended. My query is a sign of my uncertainty about purchasing the JOB pre2 when my two major sources are well wired with XLRs. Unlike you, I do notice the difference with XLRs in my system. Anyway, I'll wait for your further impressions. Thanks!

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post
    Pretty cool piece. Been looking for a minimalist preamp that still had a remote. Arrived fast considering it shipped from Switzerland. Got it In like 3 business days. Amazing. Nice build.
    Did JOB provide you any specifications of the pre-amp ?

    Can you take a picture of the rear panel
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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    jaxwired - beautiful room and great setup! I've always loved those PMC speakers.
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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    Did JOB provide you any specifications of the pre-amp ?

    Can you take a picture of the rear panel
    No, I just bought it on spec. based on the credibility of the Job amp and the backing of goldmund. I felt it was a risk worth taking. It ticked all my boxes, solid state, respected manufacturer, minimalist design, modest size, remote control, factory direct, bargain price. I don't know of another preamp that fits the bill so well.

    Not at home now so I can't take a pic. Rear panel is very simple. Has a fuse, a switch for voltage, IEC mains connector, 3 sets of RCA inputs, 1 set of RCA outputs. That's it. And as far as I can tell, there is no power button. It's always on.
    System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post
    No, I just bought it on spec. based on the credibility of the Job amp and the backing of goldmund. I felt it was a risk worth taking. It ticked all my boxes, solid state, respected manufacturer, minimalist design, modest size, remote control, factory direct, bargain price. I don't know of another preamp that fits the bill so well.

    Not at home now so I can't take a pic. Rear panel is very simple. Has a fuse, a switch for voltage, IEC mains connector, 3 sets of RCA inputs, 1 set of RCA outputs. That's it. And as far as I can tell, there is no power button. It's always on.
    Ok thanks
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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    To CPP ... if you have the time to scroll back through the other - imposing - thread devoted to the JOB 225 amp someone did post technical specs of the preamp forwarded to him from JOB. I took a shot at it, but ran out of time and patience )-:

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Some more job pre2 impressions. I've been doing a bunch of a/b testing comparing my primaluna prologue premium preamp to the job pre2. First off, I've owned many preamps and among the ones I've owned, these are both stars. Although they are both priced for the budget conscience audiophile, they compete with the preamps I've owned that sell for more than double this price range. So no need to spend more. There is no question that the job pre2 wins in the area of presence and transparency. The human voice is superbly reproduced with every tiny nuance communicated. All those minute audible cues that really good recordings contain are crisply and cleanly audible. The clarity is superb and addictive. Love it! However, the primaluna sounds a bit more 3 dimensional. The job pre2 sounds just a smidge flatter to me. The primaluna has a harmonic richness that is seductive. The bass is also noticeably richer and lusher on the primaluna. Which is nice on some bass light material but can be an unwanted addition on bass heavy material. I suspect that the bass is more accurate with the job pre2. Here's what I can say for sure the job pre2 is a superb first class solid state preamp. It provides jaw dropping transparency (if the rest of your gear is up to it) without hardness to the sound. It's very very good. For the asking price it's ridiculously good.
    System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Hello jax. Thanks for the review!

    Just wondering if you are using the Job Pre2 to the Job225 or a different amp?

    Also which one do you like better PL or Job pre2 in your set up?

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Quote Originally Posted by Naim101 View Post
    Hello jax. Thanks for the review!

    Just wondering if you are using the Job Pre2 to the Job225 or a different amp?

    Also which one do you like better PL or Job pre2 in your set up?
    No, I am not using the job 225 amp. I'm tempted to get one but I worry that I need more power than it offers. I am currently using a wyred4sound st1000 mkii amp.

    As for which one I like better, I have not yet decided. I really have a soft spot for the primaluna so it's not an easy decision. I am leaning toward the job pre2 right now. I typically do not keep equipment that is not currently being used in my system but I might make an exception and just hang on to both preamps for awhile. The job pre2 is definitely staying in the system for the forseeable future. As usual it really comes down to synergy, my system doesn't really require the rounder fatter sound of the primaluna to sound good. If you have particularly edgy ultra revealing speakers the primaluna is going to work better for sure. Or if you have speakers that lack the right balance in the bass department the primaluna can really make a big difference.
    System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Hey Jax. Any update on the sound as you burn in?

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Yes, BASS! The pre2 seemed a bit bass light on day one. Now with some time on it, that is definitely not the case. Bass is full and deep.
    System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.

    System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.

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    Nice! Did Soundstage improve at all in terms of 3D width and depth?

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    The big question for me with any pre or integrated is 'how does the volume control work'.

    Lots of pre's have SO MUCH GAIN that by the time you get the knob to nine o'clock it's ridiculously loud.

    So how is the Job? Is there some useable action on the volume pot or does it get really loud right away?

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Any chance you could post a pic of the remote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post
    Yes, BASS! The pre2 seemed a bit bass light on day one. Now with some time on it, that is definitely not the case. Bass is full and deep.

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    Jaxwired, looks like you're out of a Job (pre), selling it after only a week??

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    Job Pre2 Technical Data

    TECHNICAL DATA Job Pre2

    POWER SUPPLY

    Nominal line voltage: 117 V
    1x Power transformer
    Input voltage range +/- 10%
    Fuse 1 A, slow-blow
    Separated ground and earth signal
    Connection between earth and ground to cancel all ground loops.

    Rated Power Consumption:
    IEC 60065: 6.5 W

    Max Power Consumption:
    IEC 60065: 10 W

    INPUT

    Input impedance: 50K
    Ω
    Nominal imput level: 2.25 V RMS
    Maximum input level: 3.6 V RMS

    OUTPUT

    Maximum output level: 3.6 V RMS
    Output impedance: 75 Ohms

    PERFORMANCE

    Frequency response:
    These values for any level to maximum output level:
    +/- 0.1 dB, 10 - 20kHz
    +/- 3 dB, 10 - 200kHz
    Group delay:
    Propagation delay < 1 ms stable with frequency from DC to 100kHz
    Distortion:
    With 1 V RMS output level, 80 KHz measurement bandwidth, 600 Ohms termination impedance.
    THD unbalanced in to unbalanced out < 0.005% (-90dB) flat with frequency.
    IMD unbalanced in to unbalanced out < 0.002% (-80dB)
    Circuit speed:
    Slew rate of amplification stages: > 20 V/us
    Rise time: < 700 ns
    Crosstalk:
    Separation: > 80 dB between channels. (20 Hz - 20 kHz)
    Noise:
    Signal-to noise ratio on line input: . 80 dB (0.01 Hz - 10 Mhz)
    Weighted ASA A: > 100 dB


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    Any chance you could post a pic of the remote.
    Barry
    No problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls35a View Post
    So how is the Job? Is there some useable action on the volume pot or does it get really loud right away?
    Not with the Job. The knob rotates more than 360 degrees and 0 to 360 degrees is not really loud.

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    I got mine in just 2 days - all the way from Geneva to Canada. Sent July 2 received July 4! Sounds great. My Mimesis 7 ( I have 2 of them)(1990) has more of a natural sound but very similar in that the Job Pre 2 still very much Goldmund in it's sound. Mine came without any side bolts to cover. I have let Job know about the oversight. All in all great sound for $1700 bucks.

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    Welcome the the forum afb284!
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    "The job pre2 is definitely staying in the system for the forseeable future."

    Quote Originally Posted by elegy View Post
    Jaxwired, looks like you're out of a Job (pre), selling it after only a week??
    And this year's "Fickle Audiophile of the Year Award" goes to: .....!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isflicka View Post
    No problem

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    Thanks. I was hoping to see balance control.
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    Ive so far read 5 reviews on the Job Pre2 on this forum but it seems like the 3 reviewers that matched it with the Job 225 Amp didnt have a single complaint and love the sound vs the other 2 reviewers who didnt run it with job 225 said it lacked something compared to their other gear... strange but true.

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    Re: Job pre2 - just took delivery

    Not to mention even on JOBs website they described as "specifically made to compliment Job 225.

    Tough decision for me really since i am really looking for a preamp to go with the Chord Hugo DAC to JOB 225 out to Evolution Acoustics MicroOnes.

    I am looking at the Primaluna Prologue Premium Preamp with KT120's or the JOB Pre2. Wish i had a listen to both.. must make decision in 2 weeks!!

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    I am using it with the Job and can only say that it sounds amazing (metrum octave dac). Any specific characteristics that you'd like to get more information on? I don't have much experience with other preamps though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post
    Pretty cool piece. Been looking for a minimalist preamp that still had a remote. Arrived fast considering it shipped from Switzerland. Got it In like 3 business days. Amazing. Nice build.
    Six Moons mentioned your comments in the Pre2 preview .. !

    6moons audio reviews: Job Pre2

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    Hah. Cant wait for a full review!

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    Hows the sound after some break in newbie79? Nice dac btw. Always wanted to try a NOS dac.

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    Very cool! Jaxwired got a mention in the preview ...

    "As Audioshark member Jaxwired put it"


    Quote Originally Posted by Spla'nin View Post
    Six Moons mentioned your comments in the Pre2 preview .. !

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    What struck me after the breakin is that the bass kept getting better and more detailed. Besides that obvious improvement, it got better all around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naim101 View Post
    Hah. Cant wait for a full review!

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    According to an email from JOB, the full review will be published next week.

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    Hey newbie79, do you find the soundstage flat at all with the Job PRE2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie79 View Post
    What struck me after the breakin is that the bass kept getting better and more detailed. Besides that obvious improvement, it got better all around...
    How are things sounding with your new preamp?


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    I don't find the soundstage flat at all. What also struck me is the vertical soundstage, it seems taller than my previous amp (note: integrated used as pre)... I am enjoying the amp a lot, just ordered new rca's, hope that will improve the sound even more ;-)

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    Metrum Hex (with onboard streamer), Job 225, Pre2 and PMC Fact 8's a match made in heaven. After more than 500 hours burning in and 150 hours of listening this is the best match for my onboard HEX streamer. Creating an unbelievable realistic musical experience. Accuracy, soundstage and ambience .... just perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPM-123 View Post
    According to an email from JOB, the full review will be published next week.
    Noticed Page 3 preview now up for your reading pleasure ..

    6moons audio reviews: Job Pre2

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    Interesting comment about those cheap looking binding posts on the 225 amp, being used on the Telos model! So much for upgrading the binding posts. A good "lesson" in not rushing to upgrade certain things.

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At AudioShark, we also have incorporated an exciting Marketplace where members can peruse terrific buys on used gear, as well as meet dealers and discuss the purchase of new gear.

We are as crazy about this hobby as you are! So come on in and join us! Audioshark.org the Friendliest Audio Forum!

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Audioshark is a community of like minded individuals. Audioshark welcomes participation from all manufacturers and owners of all brands and products. It is our belief that online forums provide a community of like minded audiophiles and music lovers to encourage the growth of this wonderful hobby.

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