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MSB Select II
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I just purchased a lightly used MSB UMT V Signature Transport with two power bases. It is built like a tank. The transport has a solid aluminum tray and is based on the Oppo BDP-105D. The two power bases are really heavy. They feel like solid blocks of aluminum.
I think the sound quality of my Select II DAC with Renderer V2 Module and Roon Nucleus Plus is terrific but the asynchronous transport with its proprietary Pro I2S connection surpasses it in transparency, ease and noise floor. Stunning vocals and instrumentals emanate from dead silence. The noise floor isn’t quite as low as MSB’s new Pro ISL optical connection but having listened to this transport and the new Reference Transport, I can tell you that sonically, it is damn close. The Pro ISL optical connection really excels when used with the Pro USB Module for computer audio, where electrical noise is much more of an issue than on the transport.
Consequently, I am very happy with this purchase as I can now spin CDs and SACDs again, and have improved sound quality for a fraction of the price of the Reference Transport.
Ken
I think the sound quality of my Select II DAC with Renderer V2 Module and Roon Nucleus Plus is terrific but the asynchronous transport with its proprietary Pro I2S connection surpasses it in transparency, ease and noise floor. Stunning vocals and instrumentals emanate from dead silence. The noise floor isn’t quite as low as MSB’s new Pro ISL optical connection but having listened to this transport and the new Reference Transport, I can tell you that sonically, it is damn close. The Pro ISL optical connection really excels when used with the Pro USB Module for computer audio, where electrical noise is much more of an issue than on the transport.
Consequently, I am very happy with this purchase as I can now spin CDs and SACDs again, and have improved sound quality for a fraction of the price of the Reference Transport.
Ken
Kingrex
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Isn't it shocking how much component to component noise there is between audio equipment.
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It’s Roon. I keep telling you guys. Roon is noisy as hell. Ken finally heard the difference this weekend.
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Kingrex
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I don't doubt that at all Mike. I dumped Roon a long time ago. Qubuz direct and HQ Player direct. Although I don't like HQ 4. I liked 3 a lot better.
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Kingrex
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My server is Linux based. The manufacturer added the link.
Sometimes I though I missed Roon. But of late, I find a lot more music I like by reading the various What Are You Listening To Now threads in forums and going to what members are suggesting.
apdoc2004
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Mike,
Have you soured on Roon? Have you stopped recommending it to your customers? I am streaming Tidal directly on my Lumin player. Do you think that is superior to using Roon as an interface?
Anshul
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If they want the best sound, yes we recommend something other than Roon. If they want the best interface, no, Roon’s has the best interface.
Many of our devices are Roon enabled - including preamps with built in DAC’s. If someone wants the all in one with Roon solution, fine. We will help them get the best sound from Roon. If they want the best sound overall, then no, Roon is not the direction we recommend.
I guess you haven’t been following. [emoji6]. I’ve been pretty vocal about my concerns with Roon and overall sound quality for quite some time. Their customer support has also been highly lacking. The Taiko guys agree about the Roon sonics and their own software is miles better sonically.
Yes, I think you should try the Lumin app.
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still-one
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I would hope a ~$30k solution would sound better than Roon for under $3k. Same goes for Aurrender's W20SE answer at ~$20k.
I can tell you that the Innuos Statement in a A/B in my set-up running with and without Roon wasn't better.
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It's like anything the better stuff costs more
U have like $30k + in Shunyata and Transparent... basically copper wire and band-aids. And u scoff at 30k for real hardware, 24Tb of storage, real software and amazing support? Oh yea and best in class sonics....
Really missing your point
U have like $30k + in Shunyata and Transparent... basically copper wire and band-aids. And u scoff at 30k for real hardware, 24Tb of storage, real software and amazing support? Oh yea and best in class sonics....
Really missing your point
still-one
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You usually do.
Kingrex
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Interesting. Was the experience, play a song via roon, then play same song via Qobuz application? How did you analyze the playback.
Mike Lavigne
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not to butt into your fun.
but what each of you are saying does not actually conflict. just say'n.
Kingsrule can like how Roon sounds (as do i) on his Extreme/MSB Select II (and still like another music management program better (TAS)) and still-one can prefer the Lumin to Roon. you can both be right as there is no conflict. apples and oranges. maybe if still-one actually dislikes Roon (which he does not say.......he merely says he likes the interface, not that he dislikes Roon......Roon maybe is 'meh' to him). one man's 'meh' is another man's like. Kingrule does not claim he likes Roon 'best'.
this is a weak basis for conflict.