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    Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Panagiotis Karavitis on the new S7s: "I made no emotional connection with the system."

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by mauidan View Post
    Panagiotis Karavitis on the new S7s: "I made no emotional connection with the system."

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    Hi Dan,

    I think M-Project cabinet and driver design is their future. Not easy to integrate these features into their existing line.

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by mauidan View Post
    Panagiotis Karavitis on the new S7s: "I made no emotional connection with the system."

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    some balance...

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Is Irv Gross back with Magico or was the author confused? Irv might have been representing Constellation.

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Duplicate.
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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    LVB,

    AVShowroom video that Le Roy posted of Q7 MKII sounded really good. Much more organic than any other Q7 video I've heard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEsn...ature=youtu.be

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzie View Post
    Is Irv Gross back with Magico or was the author confused? Irv might have been representing Constellation.
    You are correct. Irv left Magico a bit over a year ago and now works for Constellation.
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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by LVB View Post
    some balance...

    SoundStage! Ultra | SoundStageUltra.com (UltraAudio.com) | Sampling High End 2015's Best Loudspeakers - Sampling High-End Best...
    2015 Munich High End: Electronics | The Absolute Sound - Best Sound - A thrilling showing
    The 2015 Munich High-End Show | The Absolute Sound - Best Sound - By far the best demonstration of all these brands at a show.
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    Baker?s Dozen ? Audio Electronics at the Munich High End 2015 | Hi-Fi+ -They sounded excellent
    Friday + Holiday = Packed | Stereophile.com - The first of two Magico loudspeaker rooms I visited offered not only one of the best sounds I heard at the show…
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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Precisely what I did

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    I could be wrong, but weren't the S7's in prototype form? Not sure its fair to comment until someone has heard the finished product.
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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor View Post
    You are correct. Irv left Magico a bit over a year ago and now works for Constellation.

    Sounds right to me. I know he had been at Constellation for a bit by Axpona 2014.

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    The more I see things like this thread regarding Magico, the more I believe man evolved into two completely different genetic pools as it relates to the temporal lobe and auditory cortex---those who love and those who hate Magico. I am not trying to be belligerent, but I am always amazed by the polarity which occurs around Alon's work. It never seems to be "I kinda like it" or "I kinda don't". Rather it seems to garner more extreme reactions from people.

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I could be wrong, but weren't the S7's in prototype form? Not sure its fair to comment until someone has heard the finished product.
    Why fly a prototype product to Munich, unless you thought it was ready for prime time?

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by FlexibleAudio View Post
    The more I see things like this thread regarding Magico, the more I believe man evolved into two completely different genetic pools as it relates to the temporal lobe and auditory cortex---those who love and those who hate Magico. I am not trying to be belligerent, but I am always amazed by the polarity which occurs around Alon's work. It never seems to be "I kinda like it" or "I kinda don't". Rather it seems to garner more extreme reactions from people.
    I wonder about it myself. I think it is somewhat primal and expose some of the different reasons people are attracted to the hobby. You can see an example of that reading the Magico threads that are mostly critical as oppose to the Wilson or Raidho threads that are typically congratulatory.

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    I'm biting my tongue. Munich High End 2015: Magico
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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

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    I'm biting my tongue. Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Hmmm.... Re: Magico polarity, prototype debacle, or something completely different?

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by FlexibleAudio View Post
    The more I see things like this thread regarding Magico, the more I believe man evolved into two completely different genetic pools as it relates to the temporal lobe and auditory cortex---those who love and those who hate Magico. I am not trying to be belligerent, but I am always amazed by the polarity which occurs around Alon's work. It never seems to be "I kinda like it" or "I kinda don't". Rather it seems to garner more extreme reactions from people.
    Paul,

    I know what you mean but I think Magico and Soulution have moved towards a more organic sound.

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    Paul,

    I know what you mean but I think Magico and Soulution have moved towards a more organic sound.

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    My experience at Axpona, was that the Q7 II's were all Magico.

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by LVB View Post
    I wonder about it myself. I think it is somewhat primal and expose some of the different reasons people are attracted to the hobby. You can see an example of that reading the Magico threads that are mostly critical as oppose to the Wilson or Raidho threads that are typically congratulatory.
    There were countless Wilson threads on forums for years with polarizing viewpoints. Cant play the woe is me card...
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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    There were countless Wilson threads on forums for years with polarizing viewpoints. Cant play the woe is me card...
    +1

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I could be wrong, but weren't the S7's in prototype form? Not sure its fair to comment until someone has heard the finished product.
    When we all hear the final product, I am sure we will all change our tune. I can't see them not being unlike the fabulous MPro. Obviously not as good, but I bet they will be great.

    Showing prototypes in Munich.... I guess there is good and bad with everything.


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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    There were countless Wilson threads on forums for years with polarizing viewpoints. Cant play the woe is me card...

    True dat. Still are a lot of Wilson critics. Raidho has been drubbed as well. That said, I still think Magico wins the polarity war.

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    I only hope the final production version will be more slim. The prototype was wider that it was deep (or so it looked).

    The Q7mk2 demo with Soulution was actually quite good, certainly the best Magico/Soulution I've heard. Still, I would very much like to hear it with the Lampi instead.

    I listen to my S5s with Lampi everyday and I'm kind of spoiled.
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    The shape will not change.


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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Jones View Post
    The shape will not change.
    I was told it will be slightly narrower...

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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by LVB View Post
    I was told it will be slightly narrower...
    I should rephrase that - The general shape will not change maybe an inch here or there but it will essentially be and look the same.


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    Re: Munich High End 2015: Magico

    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    I only hope the final production version will be more slim. The prototype was wider that it was deep (or so it looked).

    The Q7mk2 demo with Soulution was actually quite good, certainly the best Magico/Soulution I've heard. Still, I would very much like to hear it with the Lampi instead.

    I listen to my S5s with Lampi everyday and I'm kind of spoiled.
    That seems to suggest to me that you prefer the Lampi to your Trinity DAC, but I may misinterpret.

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