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    Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!







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    Very nice Mike. I bet they will be awesome.
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    Awesome!!!
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    I’m very interested in hearing your impressions Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrel View Post
    Iím very interested in hearing your impressions Mike.
    Darrell - Iíll go in tomorrow and listen longer, but first impressions: if Magico made an S4, this would be it. It has such weight and bass weight. Mids and highs are fabulous. Gotta say, for a $20k ish speaker, this will set a whole new benchmark in performance. Maybe a little too good.


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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Nice!


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    Sweet. Congrats Mike!
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Hopefully it's not an M3 killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Hopefully it's not an M3 killer.
    Itís not. Seriously though, this is like an S4, or S7-Lite!


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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Well, it's probably killed my Q3 sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Darrell - Iíll go in tomorrow and listen longer, but first impressions: if Magico made an S4, this would be it. It has such weight and bass weight. Mids and highs are fabulous. Gotta say, for a $20k ish speaker, this will set a whole new benchmark in performance. Maybe a little too good.



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    Sounds like these are better than the S5 MK II. Too bad you canít get them in different colors like the S series.
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    I could live with the A-chassis look, but the cf on my M3's is a look that can't be beaten. The A5 price is very reasonable for the level of performance it brings to the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    Sounds like these are better than the S5 MK II. Too bad you canít get them in different colors like the S series.
    Bud, not better than S5 Mk2. I would say the S series still has some nice advantages with cabinet shape/construction, color options, etc.

    However, these new A5ís would eclipse the Q3/5 for me. They have that S/M DNA and performance.

    That being said, they are still not close to any of the M speakers (and thatís a good thing - phew!)

    Frankly, unless your room was really small, I couldnít see anyone picking an S1 over an A5. S3 because a tougher choice: cabinet on S3 is better, color options, etc.

    But this A5 is scary good. At ~$20K, very hard to beat IMO.

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    Nice to see Magico addressing the more 'affordable' end of the spectrum with superb offerings Ö..
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    very nice Mike, good to see your amps are 'socially distanced' from one another
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    Very, very nice.
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    I listened to these for several hours today. The midrange is very special. The bass is tight, balanced full and articulate. Despite not having a curved front baffle, the speakers still do a great disappearing act and the image height is perfect. They fill our 17 x 25 room with ease and play loud without any breakup. The speakers also convey a great sense of emotion from the music.

    Do the Magico A5ís redefine the $20k speaker market? I would say yes and those speakers costing much more better be worried too.

    Iíll let these continue to break in and give another report next week. But for now: WOW! A Home Run.


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    Thanks for the report and videos Mike. My A3s took several hundred hours to really show their sound characteristics. Hearing the A3s right from the start I was impressed to say the least. I thinks these will do the same.
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    how would you compare them to the stenheim aluminun3
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    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    how would you compare them to the stenheim aluminun3
    The A5ís play bigger, fuller, deeper.


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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    How do the A5's compare to the B&W 802 / 800 series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soastrup View Post
    How do the A5's compare to the B&W 802 / 800 series?

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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Thank you very much Mike
    Beautiful speaker from a great company
    Definitely a new competitor in scene

    As an S3 MK II owner, beside your mention in previous posts,
    do you have a pair in your place to make a comparison?
    Until now, I think the S3 was the “sweet spot” in the Magico line
    by price and performance.
    Now, there is a new one...

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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    I need to shut myself down from any further reading about the A5's. At 1/4 of the price of my M3's the A5's might be getting too close for comfort. Certainly on the price vs performance curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I need to shut myself down from any further reading about the A5's. At 1/4 of the price of my M3's the A5's might be getting too close for comfort. Certainly on the price vs performance curve.
    Donít think that for a second. M2/M3 are in another league. But damn this A5 is good.


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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I could live with the A-chassis look, but the cf on my M3's is a look that can't be beaten. The A5 price is very reasonable for the level of performance it brings to the party.
    We're pretty happy with the A-chassis look. (We've had A3's since they first came out.) Sure the S's and M's are beautiful, but they did a really nice job, within the budget, with the A's. Given the significant price difference, the A's are nice enough. And honestly they are nice in their own right, IMHO.
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    Mike - after you've had a listen, how do they compare to S3Mk2? Our A3's fill our room with sound, and I'm pretty sure A5's would be too much speaker for the space. How do you characterize S3Mk2 between those two A's?
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    I quite like the look of the A5. imo better than the round arse of the S3/S5/S7.

    Then again I love the more industrial look of the Q5 over the M6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XV-1 View Post
    I quite like the look of the A5. imo better than the round arse of the S3/S5/S7.

    Then again I love the more industrial look of the Q5 over the M6.
    Yes to industrial. But small design touches that add thoughtfulness and elegance. The grills are really lovely, and I keep them on in part because I like the look!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart001 View Post
    Mike - after you've had a listen, how do they compare to S3Mk2? Our A3's fill our room with sound, and I'm pretty sure A5's would be too much speaker for the space. How do you characterize S3Mk2 between those two A's?
    I will let you know. The S3 mk2ís are a bit taller, with the sculpted look. I have a hunch the A5 may have some more bass weight, but the S3 mk2ís might have some refinement benefits. Right now Iím breaking in the A5ís. I go and listen each day and they are really opening up. They donít get flustered at all when pushed. I played Hugh Masakela Stimela and loud and they didnít break up at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Donít think that for a second. M2/M3 are in another league. But damn this A5 is good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    Mike, can you elaborate? What does this mean?
    The cabinet construction, shape and material of the M series, combined with the driver materials, especially the tweeter, put the M series in another league above the A series.

    I listened again to the A5ís today (this time with the full NAIM stack) and they are really opening up, balancing out and shining. In the $20k space, they are amazing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I have a hunch the A5 may have some more bass weight, but the S3 mk2ís might have some refinement benefits.
    +1
    I would use similar language to compare the two in a single sentence. The A5 doesn't erase the difference in sound character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    In the $20k space, they are amazing.
    Sounds like a great rival to the Revel Salon2's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    Sounds like a great rival to the Revel Salon2's
    Well, one is brand new, the other is now discontinued. I owned the Salon 2ís - twice. Great speaker. Needed stupid amounts of power (ďstart at 750 watts/channel and go from thereĒ - Kevin V.) and subs to really shine. I remember when I got my first pair, I thought the drivers were broken. There was NO BASS. They definitely need some subs or LOTS of power to get the bass going. Good speaker though. Studio 2 as well.

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    When did the Salon get discontinued ? Did Revel replace it and with what ?
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    When did the Salon get discontinued ? Did Revel replace it and with what ?
    About a month ago sadly. No replacement. Kevin said they are focused on car stereos and shit. Ugh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    About a month ago sadly. No replacement. Kevin said they are focused on car stereos and shit. Ugh.


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    well that sucks ………..

    Oh well, no plans on trading in my Studio2's anytime soon and my Pass 260.8's drive them effortlessly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    well that sucks ÖÖÖ..

    Oh well, no plans on trading in my Studio2's anytime soon and my Pass 260.8's drive them effortlessly
    Yeah, Studio 2ís are easier to drive.


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    Quick update on the A5ís. I moved them into a different room to use a cooler running amp and to test them in a smaller room and with the NAIM stack. They are really beginning to shine after 72 hours. The bass is more defined, the speakers are really opening up. Things are smoothing out and balancing out and opening up.

    This is even more of a winner than I originally thought. Big sound. Deep bass. Disappearing act. A home run.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    About a month ago sadly. No replacement. Kevin said they are focused on car stereos and shit. Ugh.


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    Really sorry to hear that. Kevin is one of the best speaker designers out there. Hate to see his talent directed elsewhere.

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    Apods are a thing for those speakers, right?

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    Apods are a thing for those speakers, right?
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    I can't help but think they're shooting themselves in the foot a bit here by building such a good A-speaker, which probably carries a lower profit margin, eating into sales of the higher grade series speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSOphile View Post
    Really sorry to hear that. Kevin is one of the best speaker designers out there. Hate to see his talent directed elsewhere.
    Yea what a bummer, have been anticipating a replacement for years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I can't help but think they're shooting themselves in the foot a bit here by building such a good A-speaker, which probably carries a lower profit margin, eating into sales of the higher grade series speakers.
    I believe M have many more to offer in the future.
    we should enjoy the knowledge and tech trickle down to lower line.


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