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    Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Very cool! Can’t wait


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Very nice.

    Something new for the M8/9 - whatever they call it.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    As long as whatever is new is not M3Mk2!
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    And that'll "trickle down" into more modestly priced (for Magico) speakers over the next year or two!?!
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Ins't this the new technology that makes its debut in the Magico A5? The new mid-range driver.

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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    Ins't this the new technology that makes its debut in the Magico A5? The new mid-range driver.
    Yes.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    I thought it was something new. I’m not following Magico that closely anymore.


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    I thought it was something new. I’m not following Magico that closely anymore.


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    Kuoppis, I know you have changed your speakers. I missed the thread sorry. What was it about the Lansche that appealed / how would you describe what is better than the S3 mk2s? Genuinely curious. Please point me to a post if I am covering old ground
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Hi AJR,

    the Lansches have the world’s best tweeter. The Corona Plasma tweeter is really exceptional. Frequency range 1500 Hz - 150 kHz. Nothing else comes even into the same ball park. It is essentially massless, as it consists of an arc of Iight. The highs are ultra fast, super high resolution, and simultaneously very smooth. Nothing like Magico Beryllium tweeters, even though those are also ok.

    The rest of the concept also fits my room very well. A fast mid-range to keep up with the Corona, and two 20” active aluminum woofers with 1200 W class D amplification in each speaker. Reaching down to 15 Hz.

    The sound is awesome, and not even the largest and best from other manufacturers can match the specs.

    They’re called Lansche 4.2.


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Sounds amazing
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    So the active class D speakers give your better bass than the S3 mk2s. And it is all still coherent
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    And similar price range?
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    So the active class D speakers give your better bass than the S3 mk2s. And it is all still coherent
    Coherence is great. I love the detail of the Magico bass, but the Lansches are more meaty without being bloated.


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    And similar price range?
    Pretty much, the Lansches are 42K in Europe.

    So maybe a couple K’s more expensive.


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Interesting. I am thinking of upgrading speakers (next 12 months) and the logical progression is Magico M3s but am also interested in YG Sonjas but given your recommendation I will try to find a dealer to demo the Lansches
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    Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Lansches might be difficult to demo outside of Germany. High End is always an option to hear them, but unfortunately that was not an option this year.

    If they don’t have semi-active versions like mine, you should try the Lansche own amps to power the low-end.

    Bi-amping makes a huge difference. Simple reason being, that the impedance requirements for the woofers and mids + tweeters are very different. Just one amp’s gotta give somewhere.


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    Interesting. I am thinking of upgrading speakers (next 12 months) and the logical progression is Magico M3s but am also interested in YG Sonjas but given your recommendation I will try to find a dealer to demo the Lansches
    I've been wondering where on the product cycle Magico might be with the S3 Mk2s. I might be up for upgrading from the A3's, but staying within their size footprint pretty much. If I don't make it to M2s, S3Mk2 is the logical choice. Or maybe within or in 12 mos there will be something new? I'm not the type to always wait for the next thing . . . but I'm not ready now anyway so it's just something to ponder.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Just buy M3's and be done with it....
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Too big for our room.

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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    M3 is the same size family as S3Mk2.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    I own A3s. I really really enjoy them. They are fantastic. And I'm considering some M3s. IMO, the A3s are like a good glass of wine and I expect the M3s to be like an entire bottle (the M6 like a case and the new M9s[?] like the entire vineyard).

    Once my doctors release me, I'm going to have a listen at Mike's. However, at the same time there are a lot of $$$ between an A3 and a M3. And there are a lot of very good speakers in this price range - like Wilson Audio, YG, etc. So, before I spend the $$$ on a set of M3s I desire to be absolutely sure these are the ones I desire.

    So, I'm going to enjoy the journey of listening before I make a final decision.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    M3 is the same size family as S3Mk2.
    Not that far off, you're right (not including feet):

    A3: 44”H x 11”D x 9.25”W


    S3MkII: 48.2"H x 12"D x 12"W


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    I own A3s. I really really enjoy them. They are fantastic. And I'm considering some M3s. IMO, the A3s are like a good glass of wine and I expect the M3s to be like an entire bottle (the M6 like a case and the new M9s[?] like the entire vineyard).

    Once my doctors release me, I'm going to have a listen at Mike's. However, at the same time there are a lot of $$$ between an A3 and a M3. And there are a lot of very good speakers in this price range - like Wilson Audio, YG, etc. So, before I spend the $$$ on a set of M3s I desire to be absolutely sure these are the ones I desire.

    So, I'm going to enjoy the journey of listening before I make a final decision.
    If A3 is good enough size for you, I’d go M2 over M3. M2 has more similar DNA to M6 than M3 does.

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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    If A3 is good enough size for you, I’d go M2 over M3. M2 has more similar DNA to M6 than M3 does.
    How does the M3 differ?
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    . M2 has more similar DNA to M6 than M3 does.
    i think m2 has similar bass outpt as s3 and would go m6 whenever i could. take some credit and be happy forever
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    i think m2 has similar bass outpt as s3 and would go m6 whenever i could. take some credit and be happy forever
    Agreed. M2 = Pound for pounds the best Magico ever IMHO. Unless your room is big, it’s sublime.


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Agreed. M2 = Pound for pounds the best Magico ever IMHO. Unless your room is big, it’s sublime.


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    Have you tried the M2s with the S-Subs? Seems like they would be a good match, but then one is above the M3 cost.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    Mike,

    Have you tried the M2s with the S-Subs? Seems like they would be a good match, but then one is above the M3 cost.
    No. When we went to Magico dealer training a few years ago, we did S3 mk2 with S-Subs. My customer “The Professor” has M2’s with Q-Subs.

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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by madfloyd View Post
    How does the M3 differ?
    M6 and M2 have similar DNA in that the enclosure proper is carbon fiber. Whereas the M3 is built more Q-platform like with substantial internal metal skeleton but with bolt-on carbon fiber side panels. M6/M2 have moved on from the Q-platform metal skeleton.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Mike - so for a medium sized room (like mine) are you recommending M3s over M2s + subs or am I reading this wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    No. When we went to Magico dealer training a few years ago, we did S3 mk2 with S-Subs. My customer “The Professor” has M2’s with Q-Subs.

    For your room: M3’s.


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by madfloyd View Post
    How does the M3 differ?

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    M6 and M2 have similar DNA in that the enclosure proper is carbon fiber. Whereas the M3 is built more Q-platform like with substantial internal metal skeleton but with bolt-on carbon fiber side panels. M6/M2 have moved on from the Q-platform metal skeleton.
    Yes, that’s what I meant. Magico always goes latest is the greatest. They don’t shy away from putting in newer technology in a lower speaker in a lineup.

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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    Mike - so for a medium sized room (like mine) are you recommending M3s over M2s + subs or am I reading this wrong?
    I have M3 + S-Sub. M3 doesn't really need S-Sub. M2 probably does.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I have M3 + S-Sub. M3 doesn't really need S-Sub. M2 probably does.
    Depends on the room size. I don’t find that to be the case in our 17 x 25. Of course, a sub can always improve things.


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I have M3 + S-Sub. M3 doesn't really need S-Sub. M2 probably does.
    Depends on the room size. I don’t find that to be the case in our 17 x 25. Of course, a sub can always improve things.


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    My room is 14" x 19". No need for a sub.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    A touch smaller than mine. Have you had the sub v no sub debate with Jim?


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    I don't think that any of the M line need a sub. They do an amazing job and have good bass extension.

    I also do think that any of them are better with 2 subs added. Maybe not cost effective but then again, very few things are cost effective at this level.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Jock, assume your M2s are treating you well then Sorry I missed your purchase
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    ...Of course, a sub can always improve things.
    Assuming it is dialed in properly. And the S-Sub isn't the easiest beast to dial in properly.

    What I found after setting the level of S-Sub so that it sounded "right", when I then turned off the M3's and left the S-Sub to operate by itself, its sound output was so low it was virtually doing nothing at all. Which is an awfully large investment to do nothing much at all. I'd rather save the floor space needlessly occupied by the S-Sub.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Jock, assume your M2s are treating you well then Sorry I missed your purchase
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Yes - thanks

    I'm really enjoying them.

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    M2s are terrific speakers. Other than the M6, my favorite Magico speakers.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    According to FaceBook Magico Speakers page this is the M9. I'm not sure where the poster received it.

    Magico.jpg
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    It doesn't really grab me aesthetically at first glance.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    It doesn't really grab me aesthetically at first glance.
    I agree. It looks like it come apart into 3 sections. I think it may be a little large for my room.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    ...I think it may be a little large for my room
    And probably a little too heavy for my reinforced concrete floor.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    And probably a little too heavy for my reinforced concrete floor.
    Yes, I think close to 1000 lbs.

    I'm reposting this on the M9 thread. That's where I should have placed it originally.
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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    According to FaceBook Magico Speakers page this is the M9. I'm not sure where the poster received it.

    Magico.jpg
    I told ya, there’s something new coming out of Hayward.

    To me it looks like a Magicolon.

    Magico actually shared it in their FB feed.


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    Re: Appears there’s something new coming out of Hayward soon

    Rear view



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