Thread: Lumin L2 Music Library and Network Switch

This is such a cool product.


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Originally Posted by Puma Cat

*-whomever did the product shots is also really good, not even a hint of color contamination for any channel in the photos.

What can I say... Lightroom has sliders for that kind of thing
The rear isn't a photo though - the production sample for photography will be along soon - allowing photos of the inside too.

Can one use larger drives than 4 TB? Is that a system limitation or is 4 TB just the largest being offered?

What is the value of having an internal switch? Wouldn't the best performance be achieved by limiting the network traffic that the unit sees?

Originally Posted by dminches

Can one use larger drives than 4 TB? Is that a system limitation or is 4 TB just the largest being offered?

The L2 can be purchased without drives, with a 4TB drive, or with an 8TB drive. I'm not sure of the maximum size, but for 8TB it uses NTFS which has varying maximum capacities depending on what configurations are supported. My first guess would be that at least 16TB is supported. A 16TB SSD is a bit expensive right now.

Originally Posted by dminches

What is the value of having an internal switch? Wouldn't the best performance be achieved by limiting the network traffic that the unit sees?

If you have other products in your audio system that can use a network connection, then the L2 offers the option of providing a low-noise network jack for that other component. For example a Lumin streamer. And the L2 needs a network connection to begin with, in order to act as a music server. So you're basically saying one connection to your wider network, plus a dedicated connection to your streamer. (Assuming the L2 and streamer would be on a switch and not a hub to begin with, they should already only receiving packets addressed to them or sent as broadcast or multicast. So it's not so much the network traffic as much as it is the isolation and possible side-channel noise filtering.)

Originally Posted by NekoAudio

The L2 can be purchased without drives, with a 4TB drive, or with an 8TB drive. I'm not sure of the maximum size, but for 8TB it uses NTFS which has varying maximum capacities depending on what configurations are supported. My first guess would be that at least 16TB is supported. A 16TB SSD is a bit expensive right now.

Actually, the options are:

1 - No drives
2 - 2 x 2TB drives (4 TB total)
3 - 2 x 4TB drives (8 TB total)

I am curious if the 4 TB drives or 8 TB total are system limits or just what is being offered.

$5,000.00

Originally Posted by audio.bill

Is that with the 8TB of storage? Wonder how it's priced without drives as well.

No mention of that on my call. I figured empty. I called MIKE but it was after hours. So I called another dealer that's in my time zone. They had no sku for it, they had not heard of the unit. This is a huge dealer, you would know them. I would buy the L2 but no way at that price. I would buy the T3 but no optical. I guess I might probably buy the U2 Mini and get my cork-sniffer DAC.

Originally Posted by dimfer

would be nice if it can be also used as a Roon Core

Not supported.

Certainly would appreciate a downloadable manual. Not only for this but the other new boxes; U2, T3. Can someone please point me to a download link. Not interested in playing footsie with the GUI/online manual and I couldn't locate a link anywhere. /thanks

Not linear.

File copy can be done via network copy (SMB protocol).

Originally Posted by musicfan

Lumin is no longer the company they used yo be. I would suggest you to look elsewhere.

See my terrible experience below with my Lumin L2 due yo Lumin failing to provide any installation information and screws/adaptors.


I owned a P1 and bought a L2 recently. It is a pain to setup the L2. First, as said, there is no online manual and the printed manuals contain nothing about installing and setting up the SSDs. The L2 comes with no screws and adaptors, which are special types, for mounting the SSDs. As soon as I got the screws and mounting adaptors, I put in 2 4TB SSDs and turned on the L2 and the screen showed HDD error. No information could be found to resolve this issue. I fdisk the SSDs and reinstalled the SSDs. I got the HDD Error again. I removed the SSDs again and formatted them before reinstalling them. I got the HDD error again. I consider myself very lucky as I tried holding the sleep button and a harddisk formatting screen showed up. The screen turned off and nothing happened. I turned off the switch and turned on the L2 again. I saw the deadly HDD Error screen again. I tried to hold the Sleep button again and it seemed to have the SSDs formatted this time. The L2 started finally started normally but it was not the end of the nighmare. When I copied files to the L2 over the network, I got the "Error 0x8007003B".

Lumin alleged that the L2 is zero configuration which is untrue and misleading.

For those considering Lumin L2 or any Lumin products, I would strongly suggest you to look elsewhere!

It seems you have had only one mission on this forum and that is to trash Lumin. You’re a troll. All of your posts are trashing Lumin. You contribute nothing else. In contrast, there are thousands of happy Lumin customers who would strongly disagree with you. Their support is outstanding. Just see all the time they spend here helping people with questions.

You’re a cry baby who had one little problem with an L2. BFD. Take your trolling billshit and go elsewhere.

Bye bye troll.


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Originally Posted by Zaheer

Hello
Very sorry for your Lumin L2
Is it working now ?
Has your dealer taken it back ?
Thanks for the return of your experience , and will take that into account before any purchase (I have the melco which works fine)
Cheers : hope that WKLIE helps you

I do not own Lumin so I have no interest in this. However I have ALWAYS been impressed with the level of support WKLIE offers. It has always been impressive.

I would buy Lumin with no concern or issue based on how many people love it and how awesome WKLIE has been with support. They appear to be a great company.

Originally Posted by musicfan

There is freedom if speech and I am free to share my true experience to alert any potential buyers. Lumin seemed to keep everything secret so you have no choice but to buy their own SSDs models. I understand you have a business interest to protect but I think I will still share my experience to alert all potential buyers and to let them know the TRUTH.

You had one bad experience with one product. You should see what I see in a daily basis from dozens of brands. I had stupid SimAudio explaining that the reason the customers CD player went bad was because he clearly must have plugged the RCA cables into an AC wall outlet! Now that’s what I call asinine.

In the end, shit breaks. Again, get over it. An L1? BFD again. It has moving parts for christs sake. It’s susceptible to errors. Have you NEVER had a hard drive go bad? Of course something could go wrong. I’m sure Lumin did everything to make it right. Given the mountain of support this company has given over the years, one bad apple won’t spoil the bunch.


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