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    Best server for Lampizator

    Its difficult to compare different server. Especially I m not sure if those server can beat my current multiple box solution.

    I m using sonictransporter i7 with roon and hqplayer. Its powered by uptone js-2. Then the signal is passed throught audio switch and router powered by LPS. Then from lan, The data is passed to Ultrrarendu and a iso regen powered by LPs1.2. The SQ is good, beating some cdt even with tidal streaming. I feel the weakest link can be the cabling connecting those devices.

    Any one has experience changing from similar solution to a dedicated server? Thanks.
    Source: Apodidae Switch&Router- Synology 918+ -SonicTransporter i7, ultrarendu, iso regen
    DAC and Preamp: Lampizator Golden Gate - KR242/Psvane WE300B + TAK 274B
    Amp: Sanders Magtech
    Speaker: Magnepan 3.7i
    Power: Isol-8 LC SE, Uptone
    Analog Cables: Cerious Technolgoies Matrix
    Digital Cables: Intona Reference USB, Cat-8 Lan with Telegartner.

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    Re: Best server for Lampizator

    I have not, but have a similar interest.

    There are a couple decent threads on Agone and audiophileStyle regarding the Innuous server products, where some are stating sig improvement over similar setup / config as yours. Mine is similar as well, but using fiber.

    Specifically a two box type of system vs direct to DAC.

    It’s obviously very subjective and comments are to be take with a grain of salt. Innuous is all but one of several products/manufacturers available, but seem to be get positive reviews



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    Dedicated 25 x 14 x 8 treated room
    Computers (in utility room): High end Win10 wkst (headless) running lifetime ROON server. High end wkst #2 Win Server 2019 running HQP
    Network rack (in utility room): Managed Fiber Switch, QNAP NAS
    Endpoint: Fiber to SONORE OR w/ LPS, Sbooster USB vbus2
    DAC: Lampi Lite7
    Pre: Atma-Sphere MP-3 Mk3.3 Pre
    Amps: Pass XA100.5 Mono's
    Speakers: Revel Ultima Studio2 (GAIA footers) with Dual PSA X15 sealed subs
    Isolation: Components on custom roller bearings + compression springs
    Cables: Wireworld Platinum USB / Analysis Plus PC / Gotham 4/4 XLR / AQ aspen spkr

    Office: Win10 wkst with Spotify or ROON controller > VDAC-II > VLINK 192 > Yamaha RX integrated > Polk audio signature Monitors >12" sub

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    Re: Best server for Lampizator

    I have test the new Aurender Acs10 against my sonictransporter + ultrarendu-lps1.2. The Aurender win.

    But at that time, the sonictransporter has normal switching power supply and the cables between are just stock cables.

    I am really interested in a well cabled and powered and even well clocked multiple box solution against some high end server.

    There is advantage in multi box solution because there are less emi and rf intervention, but the data passing thru those cables can be subject to emi rf. The path is long and jitter can occur in anywhere.

    The Innuos doesn't seems to have enough power to do upsampling for Lampizator. I believe its good for bit perfect playback. But it can sound good just like the Aurender ACS10.
    Source: Apodidae Switch&Router- Synology 918+ -SonicTransporter i7, ultrarendu, iso regen
    DAC and Preamp: Lampizator Golden Gate - KR242/Psvane WE300B + TAK 274B
    Amp: Sanders Magtech
    Speaker: Magnepan 3.7i
    Power: Isol-8 LC SE, Uptone
    Analog Cables: Cerious Technolgoies Matrix
    Digital Cables: Intona Reference USB, Cat-8 Lan with Telegartner.

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    Re: Best server for Lampizator

    Just the right topic at the right moment :-)
    Up to today I was using Auralic Aries Femto and tonight I will have installed by the manufacturer personally LDMS (Lukas Domansky) music server. I've heard it last Sept in quite (to me) brutal system and it sounded sublime. I know it is being used in several insane systems with great results. But more details and experiences I will share towards the end of the week...
    LS: Vienna Acoustics Imperial Liszt
    PowerAmp: ARC REF 75 (KT150)
    PreAmp: ARC REF 6
    Source: Lampizator Pacific SE
    Streamer: LDMS Music Server
    CD player/Transport: Audio Analogue Maestro
    Power: IsoTek Sigmas EVO3
    Cabling: Shunyata (various), FTA (Final Touch Audio) - Ganymede RCA & XLR, Callisto USB, LS
    Rack: Finite Elemente Spider

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    Re: Best server for Lampizator

    Quote Originally Posted by simplythere View Post
    Its difficult to compare different server. Especially I m not sure if those server can beat my current multiple box solution.

    I m using sonictransporter i7 with roon and hqplayer. Its powered by uptone js-2. Then the signal is passed throught audio switch and router powered by LPS. Then from lan, The data is passed to Ultrrarendu and a iso regen powered by LPs1.2. The SQ is good, beating some cdt even with tidal streaming. I feel the weakest link can be the cabling connecting those devices.

    Any one has experience changing from similar solution to a dedicated server? Thanks.
    May I ask a few questions
    how does the uptone js2 power the sonictranspoeter. ??
    What type or kind of dc atx is used to feed the internal mainboard ??
    A side note
    having both Roon and hq is a good combo but having them on one machine no matter how powerful is not
    do you have Roon sever or full Roon GUI ?
    Next try a free download of j river shut down Roon and hq player
    set it up Simple. Use DLNA for your ultra rendu.
    My guess is a leap in dynamics and details. Look for how music grows from small to big and his fast it happens. I had all you have on a more complex 3 pc setup.
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    Re: Best server for Lampizator

    Wow a lot of info! Greatly appreciated.

    I just connect the JS-2 with the sonictransporter with the supplied DC cable. I dont know how things work in the sonictransporter.

    The roon and hqplayer are both in the STI7. The roon should be a full roon except that its a linux version. Some function is disavled. The hqplayer is embedded version.

    What would be the problem if they are together? I have another PC in the room. Do you think I should host the roon there and use the hqplayer alone in the sonictransporter?

    What would be the purpose of the third pc? Is it the Naa, like the ultrarendu?

    I really hope to use roon because I have got used to the control and its integration and tidal and qobus. Or do you mean jriver just sounds better?

    Thanks!
    Source: Apodidae Switch&Router- Synology 918+ -SonicTransporter i7, ultrarendu, iso regen
    DAC and Preamp: Lampizator Golden Gate - KR242/Psvane WE300B + TAK 274B
    Amp: Sanders Magtech
    Speaker: Magnepan 3.7i
    Power: Isol-8 LC SE, Uptone
    Analog Cables: Cerious Technolgoies Matrix
    Digital Cables: Intona Reference USB, Cat-8 Lan with Telegartner.

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    Re: Best server for Lampizator

    Quote Originally Posted by simplythere View Post
    Wow a lot of info! Greatly appreciated.

    I just connect the JS-2 with the sonictransporter with the supplied DC cable. I dont know how things work in the sonictransporter.

    The roon and hqplayer are both in the STI7. The roon should be a full roon except that its a linux version. Some function is disavled. The hqplayer is embedded version.

    What would be the problem if they are together? I have another PC in the room. Do you think I should host the roon there and use the hqplayer alone in the sonictransporter?

    What would be the purpose of the third pc? Is it the Naa, like the ultrarendu?

    I really hope to use roon because I have got used to the control and its integration and tidal and qobus. Or do you mean jriver just sounds better?

    Thanks!
    I’m guessing @alrainbow might be referring to having Roon and HQP on say a laptop connected directly to DAC?

    I would think that the sonictransporter with ROON Linux and HQP embedded (located in another room) streaming to an endpoint (mU) would be ideal.

    Using a properly implemented fiber network may even raise the performance even more.



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    Room:
    Dedicated 25 x 14 x 8 treated room
    Computers (in utility room): High end Win10 wkst (headless) running lifetime ROON server. High end wkst #2 Win Server 2019 running HQP
    Network rack (in utility room): Managed Fiber Switch, QNAP NAS
    Endpoint: Fiber to SONORE OR w/ LPS, Sbooster USB vbus2
    DAC: Lampi Lite7
    Pre: Atma-Sphere MP-3 Mk3.3 Pre
    Amps: Pass XA100.5 Mono's
    Speakers: Revel Ultima Studio2 (GAIA footers) with Dual PSA X15 sealed subs
    Isolation: Components on custom roller bearings + compression springs
    Cables: Wireworld Platinum USB / Analysis Plus PC / Gotham 4/4 XLR / AQ aspen spkr

    Office: Win10 wkst with Spotify or ROON controller > VDAC-II > VLINK 192 > Yamaha RX integrated > Polk audio signature Monitors >12" sub

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    Re: Best server for Lampizator

    Ok. The less active programs the better the sound
    roon is a heavy cpu usage. It loads all of your library in your ram alone
    not music but all it needs to use
    album art
    album data.
    In my setup I have about 32 TB I needed 16 gb to load
    see my point no matter what OS it's a pig lol.
    They say to use server and have Roon core on another machine
    so if you can load Roon core be it GUI or server and use your best machine on hq and as you have a rendu naa from hq
    you should hear it alone
    this is a good start
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    Infinity IRS-V speakers with Xover redone by Arie Nudell.
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    Re: Best server for Lampizator

    Quote Originally Posted by Swisstrips View Post
    I’m guessing @alrainbow might be referring to having Roon and HQP on say a laptop connected directly to DAC?

    I would think that the sonictransporter with ROON Linux and HQP embedded (located in another room) streaming to an endpoint (mU) would be ideal.

    Using a properly implemented fiber network may even raise the performance even more.



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    Not to be rude but it does not matter how powerful the pc is. But it does help to run Linux at it's less resource hungry. I'm not looking to argue here either
    i don't sell products
    i do build my own
    I do help others
    I do get help from a person who sells and makes severs that man is extremely
    skilled in software and has helped get to heights I never could rise too.
    My point is Simple I don't post about what I don't know to be truth. I test all I claim
    using fiber is making things worse as it's more complexity in software and hardware
    the rendu is a fine product alone a good cat 6 shielded or even better cat 7 shielded
    is far better then any fiber. Just saying
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    Infinity IRS-V speakers with Xover redone by Arie Nudell.
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    Re: Best server for Lampizator

    Quote Originally Posted by Alrainbow View Post
    Not to be rude but it does not matter how powerful the pc is. But it does help to run Linux at it's less resource hungry. I'm not looking to argue here either
    i don't sell products
    i do build my own
    I do help others
    I do get help from a person who sells and makes severs that man is extremely
    skilled in software and has helped get to heights I never could rise too.
    My point is Simple I don't post about what I don't know to be truth. I test all I claim
    using fiber is making things worse as it's more complexity in software and hardware
    the rendu is a fine product alone a good cat 6 shielded or even better cat 7 shielded
    is far better then any fiber. Just saying
    I was answering the OP and trying to infer what you your response was specifically, no arguing by me either. Not sure what you were addressing me specifically about as I was not claiming any absolutes. Just making a few observations based on my experience as you are.

    Having a two pc setup -> a high end wkst running Roon Server and HQP in a “laundry” room and outputting to an endpoint (mU or whatever) in the listening room gives fantastic results in my experience. That is only one of many options and one that I use so have experience with that config.

    I run a fiber switch (along with my high wkst, NAS in laundry room) and run fiber from switch to listening room which goes to endpoint running LPS and then to Lampi. I control music (GUI) from tablet in listening room. Works beautifully for me.

    On my Roon Server running HQP (upsampling to dsd) doesn’t come close to using 16gb of mem. Peace




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    Main:
    Room:
    Dedicated 25 x 14 x 8 treated room
    Computers (in utility room): High end Win10 wkst (headless) running lifetime ROON server. High end wkst #2 Win Server 2019 running HQP
    Network rack (in utility room): Managed Fiber Switch, QNAP NAS
    Endpoint: Fiber to SONORE OR w/ LPS, Sbooster USB vbus2
    DAC: Lampi Lite7
    Pre: Atma-Sphere MP-3 Mk3.3 Pre
    Amps: Pass XA100.5 Mono's
    Speakers: Revel Ultima Studio2 (GAIA footers) with Dual PSA X15 sealed subs
    Isolation: Components on custom roller bearings + compression springs
    Cables: Wireworld Platinum USB / Analysis Plus PC / Gotham 4/4 XLR / AQ aspen spkr

    Office: Win10 wkst with Spotify or ROON controller > VDAC-II > VLINK 192 > Yamaha RX integrated > Polk audio signature Monitors >12" sub

 

 
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