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    Kharma DB11-S tweaking






    In Kentucky today for a visit and some tweaking of our friend and customers DB11-S’.s.

    We have the DB9-S in the store. They are incredible. However, I was not expecting how much better the DB11-S’s ($54k) are. They have a superior cabinet, bi-ampable, bigger bass drivers and are 12 inches taller and 6 inches deeper. The client loves them! I can hear why! I’m still in shock! Incredible. Wow. Terrific with the VAC.


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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Absolutely beautiful setup.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Outstanding Mike! The room and system look great. I’m sure your customer is very happy.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    What a nice speaker..!!!

    Congratulations for the new set up to your Kentucky´s friend and customer.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    I'm not surprised. The Kharmas have a magic that I've never experienced with any other speaker.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Lovely setup with those VAC’s ...!




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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Wow Mike, I cannot thank you enough for coming up and helping with the Kharmas. I had a blast hanging with you! We listened to so much good music yesterday and today.

    A couple of tweaks made so much difference. I can honestly say that the DB11-S far exceeded my expectations and work perfectly in my room.

    Anyone looking for truly full-range speakers at this price point -- or even much higher -- should give these a listen.
    Rance


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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Quote Originally Posted by rrwmd View Post
    Wow Mike, I cannot thank you enough for coming up and helping with the Kharmas. I had a blast hanging with you! We listened to so much good music yesterday and today.

    A couple of tweaks made so much difference. I can honestly say that the DB11-S far exceeded my expectations and work perfectly in my room.

    Anyone looking for truly full-range speakers at this price point -- or even much higher -- should give these a listen.
    We had a blast! Thank you to you and your wonderful wife for such southern hospitality! I thoroughly enjoyed hanging with you and listening to your incredible system. I can’t believe how big a step up the DB11-S’s are over my 9’s. Size and performance. Just phenomenal. The VAC is a terrific match too.


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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Gorgeous system. It must sound amazing!!!
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Quote Originally Posted by rrwmd View Post
    Wow Mike, I cannot thank you enough for coming up and helping with the Kharmas. I had a blast hanging with you! We listened to so much good music yesterday and today.

    A couple of tweaks made so much difference. I can honestly say that the DB11-S far exceeded my expectations and work perfectly in my room.

    Anyone looking for truly full-range speakers at this price point -- or even much higher -- should give these a listen.
    Fantastic system in a great looking room. I would love to hear more about the room itself including dimensions and construction. Per your signature, it looks like a custom built room. Are you pleased with the ASC wall system? I may be building a room in the near future and any insight would be appreciated.
    Morgan

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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Quote Originally Posted by MPW View Post
    Fantastic system in a great looking room. I would love to hear more about the room itself including dimensions and construction. Per your signature, it looks like a custom built room. Are you pleased with the ASC wall system? I may be building a room in the near future and any insight would be appreciated.
    It’s all vicoustics.


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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    It’s all vicoustics.


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    Understood. Was interested in the construction of the room itself.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Quote Originally Posted by MPW View Post
    Fantastic system in a great looking room. I would love to hear more about the room itself including dimensions and construction. Per your signature, it looks like a custom built room. Are you pleased with the ASC wall system? I may be building a room in the near future and any insight would be appreciated.
    Morgan-

    My room is roughly 22’ x 19’ x 10’.

    Here are the links to the ASC IsoWall and IsoCeiling pages:
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    I’ll try to post more about the room when I have a little more time.
    Rance


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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Rance - The system looks great! Glad you are happy. I need to come up for a visit!
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Am super interested in the 11s as an alternative to Magico M3s.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Size is my only concern given my fairly limited space. M3s have a better footprint combined with sealed box design for me.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Rance - The system looks great! Glad you are happy. I need to come up for a visit!
    Thanks Mike! You're wecome to come up anytime my friend. Just give me a call.
    Rance


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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Forgot to congratulate you! Congratulations!!! The first AS to get the 11s perhaps?
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    Forgot to congratulate you! Congratulations!!! The first AS to get the 11s perhaps?
    Thanks! I just might be the first, but likely not the last...
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Did you consider the Exquisite Classique? Big jump in price of course.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

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    Did you consider the Exquisite Classique? Big jump in price of course.
    No, I really didn't. The upper tier Kharma stuff is simply gorgeous. I would love to hear a pair. Just hard for me to imagine how much better they could be than the Elegance line but I'm sure they are.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    Size is my only concern given my fairly limited space. M3s have a better footprint combined with sealed box design for me.
    The DB-9s are amazing and smaller than the 11s.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Quote Originally Posted by rrwmd View Post
    Morgan-

    My room is roughly 22’ x 19’ x 10’.

    Here are the links to the ASC IsoWall and IsoCeiling pages:
    IsoWall
    IsoCeiling

    I’ll try to post more about the room when I have a little more time.
    Excellent. Looking forward to hearing more as I am considering the ASC products in my potential room build. Your room would be a very similar size to the one I am considering.
    Morgan

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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Does the 19’ mean 19 feet deep (as in, distance from wall that the speakers are parallel to, to behind your listening chair)? Mine is 17/18 feet, and I worry that given the footprint and that it is rear/ported, I don’t have enough space.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    Does the 19’ mean 19 feet deep (as in, distance from wall that the speakers are parallel to, to behind your listening chair)? Mine is 17/18 feet, and I worry that given the footprint and that it is rear/ported, I don’t have enough space.
    19' is the length of the front wall - i.e. behind the speakers. 22' is the distance from front to back wall.

    They will perform best out in to the room a bit. Where mine ended up it is a little over 3 feet from the rear port to the front wall, and the furthest point out (the bottom front outer corner of the speaker) is a little over 5 feet out.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Quote Originally Posted by rrwmd View Post
    19' is the length of the front wall - i.e. behind the speakers. 22' is the distance from front to back wall.

    They will perform best out in to the room a bit. Where mine ended up it is a little over 3 feet from the rear port to the front wall, and the furthest point out (the bottom front outer corner of the speaker) is a little over 5 feet out.
    Thanks. I suspected as much. My listening space won’t allow the speakers to be this far from the back wall. Sigh. Will need to stick with sealed box design.
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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Rance,

    Congratulations on a fantastic room and the new speakers!
    They really must sound gorgeous for someone like Mike to be impressed!

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    Re: Kharma DB11-S tweaking

    Thank you Nikhil! I'm extremely pleased with them.
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