Gryphon Mojo S Review

Does anyone have any experience of these? Any owners out there who can describe their virtues/drawbacks? My room is 12' x 24' and I'm on the cusp of getting a pair in for demo' on my Diablo 300 - which may change to Essence pre/power next year. Pantheons had too much bass emphasis - not boom, just a bass that seemed disconnected from the rest of the spectrum and drew attention from it. Lastly, do orange ones sound better than black ones? ;)
 
Does anyone have any experience of these? Any owners out there who can describe their virtues/drawbacks? My room is 12' x 24' and I'm on the cusp of getting a pair in for demo' on my Diablo 300 - which may change to Essence pre/power next year. Pantheons had too much bass emphasis - not boom, just a bass that seemed disconnected from the rest of the spectrum and drew attention from it. Lastly, do orange ones sound better than black ones? ;)

I have.
These are some of the best speakers in the world! For not very large rooms. And these are not completely shelf speakers. These are full speakers.
With the Diablo 300 it's almost an ideal tandem!
Be sure to listen!
 
Thanks TP. Couple questions for you. I had the Pantheons for a week. The Mojo has the same mid-range set up. I found the tweeters could be a bit hot compared to Esotar 2 in my Dynaudio Contour 60's. Any observations? Otherwise detail, separation and realisation were staggering. But, per above, I also found the bass a bit spotlit and separated - do you find this with Mojo? Lastly, I found Pantheon's presentation to be incredibly dense; very full-bodied 'in the air'. I've read of this with Mojo in some reviews. It's what people tend to mention when they're saying how they sound more like floorstanders. But I found this to be a bit wearing on my ears after an hour. The Dyn's I can listen to for hours with no issues. But they don't put the musicians in front of me the way Pantheon did and I expect Mojo would. Do you get fatigued? I tried new Confidence 30 but I think the 300 is voiced to match Gryphon's speaker topology because the Pantheon was dynamic in a way the Confidence wasn't. Latter didn't wear me out though.. Thanks a lot.
 
This is a signature feature of crossover tuning, when the bass is a little detached.
In all speakers Gryphon. This feature of the fourth order.
I know this since I own Trident speakers.

I was at the Gryphon factory and talked there with an engineer who does crossover tuning.
In general, this is Duelund's legacy!


Mojo's sound signature is the same as the Pantheon.
As Rasmussen said, he does not make bookshelf speakers, he makes speakers that are designed exclusively for your room size!

Tweeter (AMT) is more airy than Esotar2. There are more details in the sound. More scene depth. There is a clear localization of musical instruments.
Esotar2 is a great driver. Here the high frequencies are more dense. This is the main plus!

I did not listen to Confidence 30. But I make a test of the new Confidence 20. There is already a new Esotar 3. You can compare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2pJ6GzdxHE


By the way, in a week I will be at the Dynaudio factory. Then I can post my report here.



Thanks TP. Couple questions for you. I had the Pantheons for a week. The Mojo has the same mid-range set up. I found the tweeters could be a bit hot compared to Esotar 2 in my Dynaudio Contour 60's. Any observations? Otherwise detail, separation and realisation were staggering. But, per above, I also found the bass a bit spotlit and separated - do you find this with Mojo? Lastly, I found Pantheon's presentation to be incredibly dense; very full-bodied 'in the air'. I've read of this with Mojo in some reviews. It's what people tend to mention when they're saying how they sound more like floorstanders. But I found this to be a bit wearing on my ears after an hour. The Dyn's I can listen to for hours with no issues. But they don't put the musicians in front of me the way Pantheon did and I expect Mojo would. Do you get fatigued? I tried new Confidence 30 but I think the 300 is voiced to match Gryphon's speaker topology because the Pantheon was dynamic in a way the Confidence wasn't. Latter didn't wear me out though.. Thanks a lot.
 
This is a signature feature of crossover tuning, when the bass is a little detached.
In all speakers Gryphon. This feature of the fourth order.
I know this since I own Trident speakers.

I was at the Gryphon factory and talked there with an engineer who does crossover tuning.
In general, this is Duelund's legacy!


Mojo's sound signature is the same as the Pantheon.
As Rasmussen said, he does not make bookshelf speakers, he makes speakers that are designed exclusively for your room size!

Tweeter (AMT) is more airy than Esotar2. There are more details in the sound. More scene depth. There is a clear localization of musical instruments.
Esotar2 is a great driver. Here the high frequencies are more dense. This is the main plus!

I did not listen to Confidence 30. But I make a test of the new Confidence 20. There is already a new Esotar 3. You can compare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2pJ6GzdxHE


By the way, in a week I will be at the Dynaudio factory. Then I can post my report here.






Thanks very much for the observations TP. On the bass - it's good to know I'm not going mad! The denseness may be too dense for my ears! It's a great sadness for me that I have tinnitus following ear syringing by a vicious nurse and my ears are super-sensitive; though my hearing is exceptionally good. I'll be very interested to read your thoughts on the Confidence 30 or 50. I will buy Mojo S or one of these. I find with Dynaudio I have to play at loud volume before they really shine and engage me, emotionally. I believe this is a Dyn' trait.
 
Yes you are right!
The speakers of Dynaudio always sounded great at high volume. And for this, a powerful amplifier was needed.
At Moscow audio shows (for example), the distributor often connected Ayon Audio to Dynaudio. The sound was always muddy!
But the new speakers (I think so) have changed that. The main thing is to choose the right amplifier!
But Dynaudio is not a Gryphon.
Gryphon is a real author’s audio project and an author’s vision of sound reproduction.
It’s like the violins of the great Italian masters!
Alex :)

Thanks very much for the observations TP. On the bass - it's good to know I'm not going mad! The denseness may be too dense for my ears! It's a great sadness for me that I have tinnitus following ear syringing by a vicious nurse and my ears are super-sensitive; though my hearing is exceptionally good. I'll be very interested to read your thoughts on the Confidence 30 or 50. I will buy Mojo S or one of these. I find with Dynaudio I have to play at loud volume before they really shine and engage me, emotionally. I believe this is a Dyn' trait.
 
Thank you again, Alex. It’s quite inspiring to hear your passion for Gryphon! I’ll trial Mojo S in a couple weeks and hope very much the sound works for me. I’m using Naim Super Lumina speaker cable - legacy from the old days. It’s low capacitance as required by Gryphon. But do you think Nordost Valhalla 2 would be significantly better? Or Gryphon's own cables? What do you use? Ian
 
No problem Ian, ask any questions. :rolleyes:
Valhalla 2 is a cool cable, but I always had questions about reproducing low frequencies on it. The bass there is accurate, but dry and not quite detailed (only relative to the Gryphon speakers). I highly recommend using Argento Audio Flow! Or Argento Serenity (a little cheaper in price, but not in sound). I tried a lot of cables and eventually settled on this small Danish company. You can also try MIT or Transparent. I don’t really like Gryphon cables. Alex


Thank you again, Alex. It’s quite inspiring to hear your passion for Gryphon! I’ll trial Mojo S in a couple weeks and hope very much the sound works for me. I’m using Naim Super Lumina speaker cable - legacy from the old days. It’s low capacitance as required by Gryphon. But do you think Nordost Valhalla 2 would be significantly better? Or Gryphon's own cables? What do you use? Ian
 
No problem Ian, ask any questions. :rolleyes:
Valhalla 2 is a cool cable, but I always had questions about reproducing low frequencies on it. The bass there is accurate, but dry and not quite detailed (only relative to the Gryphon speakers). I highly recommend using Argento Audio Flow! Or Argento Serenity (a little cheaper in price, but not in sound). I tried a lot of cables and eventually settled on this small Danish company. You can also try MIT or Transparent. I don’t really like Gryphon cables. Alex

Thanks again, Alex. I'll do some research! I'm also quite interested to hear the new Essence pre/power next year. i'm very curious to know what will be the measure of improvement over my 300. I'll come back and report when I've auditioned the Mojo S.
 
They’re set up and breaking in. Gryphon say 100hrs. I’ll get 50 on them using 18hr days of Nirvana. My two worries are gone though - bass is integrated and sound density is not overwhelming. I’ve hugely improved my mains and power cabling since demoing the Pantheons and think this is playing a big part. Female vocals are already a big leap up on the Dyns. Significantly more emotionally engaging. Much faster with less overhang. Less airy than Dyns though with less sense of the recording space - must be a break-in thing. No more comments until I’ve got 50hrs on them.
 
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Hi Alex, I’m much looking forward to your thoughts. I wonder if you heard much of the Confidence 30?
The Mojos are still breaking in. But, just now they don’t sound like any ‘monitor’ I’ve heard before, as you said. Bass is chest-thumping and big-Image. There’s more slam and weight than from my Contour 60 and their two dedicated bass drivers. The shape of notes in mids and highs is more detailed and textured and presentation is significantly more liquid flowing and cohesive. Vocals are beautiful and in the room. Transients are very fast; they make the Dyns sound slow and overhanging. But I think that’s also the price of a 3-way design. Must also say the Mojo's are twice the cost of the Dyns so you'd expect improvements..

Unlike the Dyns they don’t need to be played loud. But they will. My one reservation is that, as they open out with break-in, I find the incredible presence they give to music a little bit heavy for my listening preferences when it comes to a listening session over a couple of hrs. Similar to but much less than when I demo'd Pantheon. (Likely because I found my power needed a lot of attention - dedicated 10mm lines and simple Audioquest NRG4 leads revolutionized the sound). It may, now, be the body given by my Mirus pro dac that is making things a bit too weighty. I tried a Chord Dave recently and the sound ‘thinned’ a little compared to Mirus. Perhaps I should try it or the Gryphon dac. Or it might be room resonances. One thing’s clear, though, Gryphon amps like Gryphon speakers. A much faster, more emotionally engaging, dynamic sound than with Dyn, which didn't exhibit a lack of these with Naim ampification. There’s a surprise! 2 more long break-in days and then we listen properly.
 
Hi Ian!
Yes, I listened to all the Confidence models.
I really liked all the models, especially 60!
I'm doing a video report about a trip to the factory. And it takes a lot of time. A photo and video material is a lot. In my report there will be high-quality recordings on the Shure microphone!
A little later I will write in detail about Confidence 30!
Alex


Hi Alex, I’m much looking forward to your thoughts. I wonder if you heard much of the Confidence 30?
The Mojos are still breaking in. But, just now they don’t sound like any ‘monitor’ I’ve heard before, as you said. Bass is chest-thumping and big-Image. There’s more slam and weight than from my Contour 60 and their two dedicated bass drivers. The shape of notes in mids and highs is more detailed and textured and presentation is significantly more liquid flowing and cohesive. Vocals are beautiful and in the room. Transients are very fast; they make the Dyns sound slow and overhanging. But I think that’s also the price of a 3-way design. Must also say the Mojo's are twice the cost of the Dyns so you'd expect improvements..

Unlike the Dyns they don’t need to be played loud. But they will. My one reservation is that, as they open out with break-in, I find the incredible presence they give to music a little bit heavy for my listening preferences when it comes to a listening session over a couple of hrs. Similar to but much less than when I demo'd Pantheon. (Likely because I found my power needed a lot of attention - dedicated 10mm lines and simple Audioquest NRG4 leads revolutionized the sound). It may, now, be the body given by my Mirus pro dac that is making things a bit too weighty. I tried a Chord Dave recently and the sound ‘thinned’ a little compared to Mirus. Perhaps I should try it or the Gryphon dac. Or it might be room resonances. One thing’s clear, though, Gryphon amps like Gryphon speakers. A much faster, more emotionally engaging, dynamic sound than with Dyn, which didn't exhibit a lack of these with Naim ampification. There’s a surprise! 2 more long break-in days and then we listen properly.
 
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