Posting Prices Publicly

XV-1 said:
Not having local prices can actually harm the manufacturer, as then people go googling and see overseas pricing and say WTF. They might do that regardless, however the retail price advertised in local country will give the consumer a starting point.
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This reminds me of when the $AUD was almost parity with $USD, never heard so much shite in my life of why "that" product was not effected by the exchange rate....
 
Pearce Harrison said:
Question...how is one supposed to do this "due diligence" if the MSRP's are NOT being disclosed??
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What reputable manufacturers don't disclose MSRP either on line or via phone contact? And if they don't and given all the choices available to the consumer, why would any informed buyer be interested in their product? Almost sounds like a drug deal in a dark alley. :disbelief:
 
Pearce Harrison said:
Question...how is one supposed to do this "due diligence" if the MSRP's are NOT being disclosed??
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Same way you figure out how to get around getting booted off of audio forums by returning under another name and another IP address?
 
It’s all a scam. If you don’t want your brand to be cheapened then don’t build a freaking $2k Best Buy grade turntable.
 
KeithR said:
If Rolex and Patek Phillipe can post prices, methinks tiny audio companies can.
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Yeah but try buying a SS sports model from either brand at list, you'll be on a wait list for a year or longer. then there is the resale market, no waiting but you will pay a premium. you can never say that about any piece of audio gear. With my luck I'll be on vacay with no cell service when my AD calls and says he has a steel Aquanaut in stock, its mine if I call him back ASAP :(
 
Sometimes it is not even a matter of deciding if I want to purchase something; instead maybe decided if I might be interested or at what level in the lineup I might be interested in. It just seems silly to ask, how much is this one, ok, how much is this one, ok, and this one... if I knew the pricing a head of time I might still call the dealer but with more pointed questions about a product or two. It just seems like not only a waste of the dealers time but also mine. I would not ask about other models and my questions would be more well thought out if I had been able to narrow the list down a head of time.
 
puroagave said:
Yeah but try buying a SS sports model from either brand at list, you'll be on a wait list for a year or longer. then there is the resale market, no waiting but you will pay a premium. you can never say that about any piece of audio gear. With my luck I'll be on vacay with no cell service when my AD calls and says he has a steel Aquanaut in stock, its mine if I call him back ASAP :(
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Ok, obviously I do not understand. I like a decent watch but what the hell. I saw a Nautilus for $337,000 that is three years old. Retail is $94k. First off, what the hell, and second, really what the hell. Obviously designed for people to buy just because they can not because they are actually any better :).
 
Not posting MSRP online smacks of dishonesty. What are you trying to hide? Why the big secret?

Plus, like Mike mentioned in his first post, posting MSRP weeds out the ‘Whistling Gofers’ .
 
The list is so so very long....

McIntosh
Audio Research
T+A

That is a start, other people can add their favorites.
 
elliotg said:
That unfortunately is a scam. I worked for a while for a large internet preowned watch company that was purchased by a large AD. THat large AD was AD for over 50 brands including Rolex, Patek. AP etc.
Number one- THERE ARE NO LISTS
Number Two- There are no lists
That is dealer BS for screw you I am not giving you one unless you buy all kinds of other expensive items from us.
I had clients that could get any watch Rolex made, in a reasonable time, and get Patek watches as well . ( Patek makes far fewer watches than Rolex and some watches are truly unobtainable by most dealers and clients) however the list for most is just an excuse to get rid the client.
Look at how many of these watches are no available "second hand at prices well over retail"
A Rolex SS sky dweller is around 14500 new and it sells for over 20k "used" with no issues getting one "used" , same for Daytona's, Batman's, Subs etc.
This is nothing like audio however audio is very backward in its marketing, distribution, dealer agreements etc. The main reason audio tries to assign territories is because manufacturers make money selling product to dealers. They are their customer's not the end users
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I think the ski industry marketing is world class. They manage to convince their customer base that they have to buy all new gear and clothes every year. Major developments/breakthroughs happen every year that turns your gear from last year into junk. And of course you don’t want to be seen on the slopes wearing the outdated outfits you bought last year.
 
mep said:
I think the ski industry marketing is world class. They manage to convince their customer base that they have to buy all new gear and clothes every year. Major developments/breakthroughs happen every year that turns your gear from last year into junk. And of course you don’t want to be seen on the slopes wearing the outdated outfits you bought last year.
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Ditto the Tennis Racket industry...
 
elliotg said:
That unfortunately is a scam. I worked for a while for a large internet preowned watch company that was purchased by a large AD. THat large AD was AD for over 50 brands including Rolex, Patek. AP etc.
Number one- THERE ARE NO LISTS
Number Two- There are no lists
That is dealer BS for screw you I am not giving you one unless you buy all kinds of other expensive items from us.
I had clients that could get any watch Rolex made, in a reasonable time, and get Patek watches as well . ( Patek makes far fewer watches than Rolex and some watches are truly unobtainable by most dealers and clients) however the list for most is just an excuse to get rid the client.
Look at how many of these watches are no available "second hand at prices well over retail"
A Rolex SS sky dweller is around 14500 new and it sells for over 20k "used" with no issues getting one "used" , same for Daytona's, Batman's, Subs etc.
This is nothing like audio however audio is very backward in its marketing, distribution, dealer agreements etc. The main reason audio tries to assign territories is because manufacturers make money selling product to dealers. They are their customer's not the end users
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Govberg
 
Rob181 said:
Ditto the Tennis Racket industry...
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Clothing styles change every year (skiing, tennis, you name it).

But taste is subjective; everyone likes what they like.

Tennis rackets on the other hand have many parameters that are distinctive and measurable (size, weight, length, balance, swing weight, etc.). I used those parameters not long ago when I switched from an old (no-longer-made) racket to a modern one. It is science-based, repeatable, and it works.

And then you have the audio business where a lot of stuff is treated as if it was clothes-like (i.e., subjective) without any scientific basis.
 
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