Heads-up, changes en route: Adding AudioNet’s engineering-marvel Humboldt to the system

Kuoppis - just catching up on this. Very exciting! Looking forward to reading about your impressions.

Thanks Andrew, very kind. Appreciate it.

I’m also excited. This is probably one of the world’s highest spec’d integrated amps at the moment. The pedigree is immaculate (Scientist Series Stern and Humboldt), and one rave review is chasing another. I would be surprised if it wouldn’t be great in my system as well [emoji3].

I just read the TAS review of the excellent Goldmund Telos 590 Nextgen II. It has a damping factor of 600 at 1kHz. Just to compare, the Humboldt has 1.800 at 10 kHz (10.000 at 100 Hz). That’s threefold at tenfold frequency, meaning it’s even higher at 1 kHz.

I’ll report back.


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High damping factor does not have to be a good thing, as it normaly means that there is more negative feedback.
(not saying that this is the case with Audionet amps)
 
High damping factor does not have to be a good thing, as it normaly means that there is more negative feedback.
(not saying that this is the case with Audionet amps)

Yes, you are absolutely right. But neither damping factor nor negative feedback are a good or bad thing per se. It depends on the implementation. Damping factor is just an indicator for the amp’s ability to control the woofers.

Ol’ skool says Class A all the way, please no negative feedback. Rationale of Class A is avoidance of crossover distortions through single-ended operation and constant power. Turn-side is the sauna-effect, i.e. most of the energy drawn is dissipated as heat. Not very comfy, not very green. In a push & pull output-stage topology power is generated more efficiently by using multiple output devices in parallel. Also, while a single-ended amp always operates in Class A, a push & pull design can operate in either A or B.

Similarly, while negative feedback can be generally used to reduce distortions, sub-optimal implementation can lead to instability of the amp and cause oscillation. Therefore, the easy answer is to avoid negative feedback. Many great, but traditionally designed amps stick to these two rules as the path to audio Nirvana. It’s a bit like assuming displacement is the only way to create torque in a car engine. In both cases it works, but is a somewhat old-fashioned and inefficient approach (as often observed in US vs. European car engines).

More modern amp designs, like e.g. from Soulution and Audionet, prefer to leverage the efficiency of A/B designs, and are not afraid to use negative feedback to minimize distortions to extremely low levels. In their designs the aforementioned potential problems of using negative feedback are eliminated through their meticulous designs. Distortions are further eliminated through ultra high-frequency designs operating up to 700-800 kHz levels.

In the Humboldt design signals are in addition linearized in real-time at zero crossing, with positive and negative signals separated on component level, even down to separate power supplies for each. There are also no electromechanical (e.g. relais) or passive (e.g. condensator) components in the signal path.

But there are also ways to implement pure Class A more efficiently, as e.g. with the microcontroller based operation approach in the latest Boulder designs, which also adjust the supplied Class A power constantly on a need-to basis. They therefore produce less heat compared to e.g. Pass and Gryphon designs.


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Work in progress... Believe this is the Stern though, as Humboldt’s capacitor bank is more heavily loaded.
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That is the Humboldt chassis.
 
That is the Humboldt chassis.

Chassis yes, as they’re the same for Humboldt and Stern, but how can you tell whether this is a Humboldt or a Stern?


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Chassis yes, as they’re the same for Humboldt and Stern, but how can you tell whether this is a Humboldt or a Stern?


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It's pretty simple: The electronics and configuration inside (in addition to the rear chassis panel) are the Humboldt.
 
It's pretty simple: The electronics and configuration inside (in addition to the rear chassis panel) are the Humboldt.

You are right, the Stern has a horizontal row of connectors on the rear of the chassis and also the board layout is different.
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and....did the machine arrive by now?

Unfortunately, I’m still waiting.

Delivery was promised by end of April, but there appears to be a couple days delay.


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Kuoppis congratulations with it and now we are almost as excited as you , ha ha....now it will be interesting to hear your thoughts on it.
 
This is just to show the level of detail going into this amp.

The packaging is not your regular card board box, or even double card board box, or a Magico M Series hammer and nails plywood box for that matter. It’s a proper professional stage gear box, metal re-enforced corners and all.

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There are layers of wood compartments, padding etc.

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Overall exceptionally high quality for consumer audio gear.

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And in-situ.
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Must say I love, love, love the Furutech Rhodium speaker binding posts. The best I have ever experienced.
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The remote in also proper metalwork, with engraved logo. Looks the part and handles well. And does not drop from the armrest all the time, like this ridiculous Soulution egg.
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Why did it take so long?

Getting the transaction completed with trade-in of the Soulutions was a bit of an ordeal with the dealer. There were agreed schedules that were not kept, no updates and upsets when I inquired about the progress, and a little bit of porky pies about the actual situation etc.

But at the end another dealer took over, who was very easy and pleasant to work with. And Audionet played their part, and supported the situation also very nicely. They’re a good company to work with. So, the new dealer picked up the amp on Monday in Berlin, directly from the Audionet factory. And he was also kind enough to run it in for me for three days and nights, before I could pick it up on Thursday.

So end is well, all is well.


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Case work: the floating pane design is really gorgeous live. Even better than in the pictures. Esslinger’s design work is amazing, and the Audionet manufacturing quality really is immaculate. This amp is altogether a different level.
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The huuuge control knob is mechanically very satisfying to handle. I don’t really need to operate it, as I have the remote. But I want to! The double bearing just feels so nice to handle.
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This is what the floating pane design means, the panels are attached to an internal frame instead to each other to eliminate microphony effects.
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The cooling vents are probably the nicest I have seen in an audio amp. Very delicate indeed.
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That looks really amazing Kuoppis , and glad to hear that the situation with the dealer went well in the end....things like that are really annoying.
Am sure you will enjoy a lot of happy hours with it.
 
How does it sound?

The reviews I have seen are all singing the highest praise possible. Is it justified? In a word, IMHO yes. One review said that the Humboldt is probably better than similarly priced separates. In case of the Soulution 520/ 511 combo it replaces, most definitely.

The amp has now been running incessantly for maybe 120 hours, so the expectation is that it will further improve. But already now it’s surpassing the Soulutions by a really wide margin. While I liked the Soulutions, they do have a darkish sound signature. The Humboldt does not, it’s therefore more neutral, while sounding full and detailed, with spectacular sound colors.

A couple things to pick out:
- the level of definition with absolutely zero etchiness or sharpness you are getting from this amp, is simply phenomenal - I have not heard similar before
- the soundstage is very deep and wide, expanding to a different level compared to the Soulutions (which are world class amps, and the combo is about 50K) - it’s very easy to pinpoint the musicians’ exact locations, and e.g. when they’re moving around in live recordings
- micro detail retrieval is exceptional, which allows to listen deeper into the recordings and hear things like venue reverberations on a frankly speaking new level - I’m flabbergasted
- bass is very deep and detailed, without being a bit bloated or a result of a warmish sound signature
- dynamics are really excellent, guess due to the high capacitance and quick rise-time, this amp is super fast and transient speed is just lightning quick

Will I complain and send it back? Don’t think so. It’s in my own system everything I was hoping for, and much more. I’m really stoked.


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Kuoppis congratulations with it and now we are almost as excited as you , ha ha....now it will be interesting to hear your thoughts on it.

Thanks Flemming, as just reported, even after only 120 hours of operation the first impressions are that it’s staggeringly good.


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