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    ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    i fully realize the importance of ad revenue in supporting this site...

    however, given the plethora of ads now populating every crease and crevice of audioshark.org causing poor site performance and injecting all sorts of cookies, data, trackers, etc, it seems logical / desirable to at least pose the question of having some type subscription membership which would be ad free.

    i would certainly be willing to pay a subscription fee to use the site ad free. curious if others would as well?

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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    The ads are all managed by Google. We donít have anything to do with it.

    Iíll be interested to see what the response to your question is. I would be happy to accept $20/year from every member to run the site. But the last time I asked this question, people said they were fine with the ads and keeping it free.

    We are working through a number of changes (server) and upgrades to the software. We are continuing to iron out the kinks and Iíve asked the developers to please do what they can to tweak the site back to our original ad layout (I never requested it be changed). We have worked through a number of updates and changes the past week and everyoneís patience is greatly appreciated.
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    The ads are all managed by Google. We donít have anything to do with it.

    Iíll be interested to see what the response to your question is. I would be happy to accept $20/year from every member to run the site. But the last time I asked this question, people said they were fine with the ads and keeping it free.

    We are working through a number of changes (server) and upgrades to the software. We are continuing to iron out the kinks and Iíve asked the developers to please do what they can to tweak the site back to our original ad layout (I never requested it be changed). We have worked through a number of updates and changes the past week and everyoneís patience is greatly appreciated.


    When I log in, this is what I see. Not sure why you are still getting a giant ad at the top. Is this recent?
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    yes -- the ad at the top of the page is recent / since the server change. it does not appear 100% of the time, but certainly over 50%

    btw: i am suggesting some type of freemuim model... use free with ads, pay to use without ads.

    another forum i frequent has a freemium model with the paid subscription unlocking certain content which includes the ability to post in the classifieds -- i.e. buy/sell. the paid subscription still has ads but i value the extra content and pay ~$25/yr. i would be happy to pay more to eliminate all ads if that were an option there.
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    Quote Originally Posted by aKnyght View Post
    yes -- the ad at the top of the page is recent / since the server change. it does not appear 100% of the time, but certainly over 50%

    btw: i am suggesting some type of freemuim model... use free with ads, pay to use without ads.

    another forum i frequent has a freemium model with the paid subscription unlocking certain content which includes the ability to post in the classifieds -- i.e. buy/sell. the paid subscription still has ads but i value the extra content and pay ~$25/yr. i would be happy to pay more to eliminate all ads if that were an option there.
    Iím totally open to that, but the last time I proposed it, folks didnít want it. Letís see what folks say this time.
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    For those who are less educated, let me explain the Google ads:

    We assign locations on our site for Google ads (through Google Adsense) to run their ads. The locations on the forum could be like they are now, the far right column. We do not pick what ads show. Google decides on the ads based on your browsing history. So, if youíre looking for a new dishwasher online, you may see ads for dishwashers.

    AKnyght, I have asked the developers to completely remove the large top banner that you were seeing. I actually donít know why it was there at all since during our migration and upgrade, there was no discussion of increasing ad space. But Iíve confirmed this morning it has been taken care of and aKnyght, you shouldnít see anymore large ads at the top when you log in.
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    thanks mike!

    as much as people here spend on their systems to get as high a signal-to-noise ratio as technically possible, one would think a few bucks a year to get the same S/N ratio from this site would be a no-brainer ...right?
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    Mike, one option to consider is a set-up where people can choose to pay some amount (perhaps $15 per year or $75 for lifetime, etc.) and not get adds. The site would be the same, except people who paid extra would get the benefit of no ads. Think of Amazon Kindle giving customers the choice to pay a one-time purchase extra $20 to avoid ads on a Kindle.

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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    Quote Originally Posted by Duke97 View Post
    Mike, one option to consider is a set-up where people can choose to pay some amount (perhaps $15 per year or $75 for lifetime, etc.) and not get adds. The site would be the same, except people who paid extra would get the benefit of no ads. Think of Amazon Kindle giving customers the choice to pay a one-time purchase extra $20 to avoid ads on a Kindle.

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    Absolutely! I would happily do this if folks are open to it. Just note, if we do go this route, I would likely ask the developers to put MORE ads on the free site and none for the paid user. And again, as always, 100% of the money is retained in an account to pay for all site costs - just like we do now with donations.


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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    I'm in though to be honest I haven't had any problems other than the slow down which is effecting many sites.
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    I am not seeing any ads on my laptop.
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    no ads here - adblocker.
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    I am not seeing any ads.
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    I'd spring for a subscription as a means of supporting the site but that's because I've donated at least once and plan to try to remember to do so, yearly, as Audioshark has become a top visited audio site, for me.
    That said, I don't find the ads offensive at this point. On mobile there have been occasional issues in the past but I mostly use a laptop when browsing and try use the desktop site when using a mobile device. The site works well on my end, though I have seen the spam and double posts, recently, too. But it looks to have been addressed in a rapid and effective manner. Great job!
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rnrmf View Post
    I'd spring for a subscription as a means of supporting the site but that's because I've donated at least once and plan to try to remember to do so, yearly, as Audioshark has become a top visited audio site, for me.
    That said, I don't find the ads offensive at this point. On mobile there have been occasional issues in the past but I mostly use a laptop when browsing and try use the desktop site when using a mobile device. The site works well on my end, though I have seen the spam and double posts, recently, too. But it looks to have been addressed in a rapid and effective manner. Great job!
    Thank you! ad free / subscription version of audioshark?


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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    I would definitely be interested in an add free subscription.

    I also wonder, would there be an interest in an executive or prime subscription where there is content that only prime members get. That might be something you are not interested in Mike, but was thinking would there be any interest or advantages to doing something like that?
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    I would say that for 15-20 $ a year i would also be in for that. As i also know there are cost with running a site like this.
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    Re: ad free / subscription version of audioshark?

    I don't see any adds. This is what I get when I log in. Using FireFox, maybe that has something to do with it Annotation 2020-07-01 122517.jpg







    PS: $20 a year is not a problem.
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