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    Lightbulb Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    For what and why?

    Let me guess first; the vast majority of members here @ Audioshark are in the Apple 🍎 (iPhone) ecosystem. And, anything older than the iPhone 12 is doomed to be upgraded to the new iPhone 13 family. Makes sense?

    Is your battery satisfying?
    About the improved cameras?
    120Hz refresh rate?
    Smaller (20%) notch on top of the screen?

    What sez you, including Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra owners. ...Or any other Android brands from China.

    This is it, 5G and 6G and all the world inside our pockets; from Bangkok to Kathmandu in 4K Dolby Vision (HDR10+), Dolby Atmos and Cinema mode to Pro Res video mode in Ultra high definition. ...8K? That's for another future in few more years.

    Are you experienced? Are you knowledgeable? Are you a professional? Are you open to the next evolution in mobile phones?

    I want to hear your stories first, your aspirations second, and all that jazz you wish to share. What's the first feature/priority you're looking for in a mobile phone?
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    By the way, I'm no fan of Google phones and Google overall period.

    And this for Apple device owners ...
    Go Update Your iPhone and iPad Right Now
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    I have an IPhone SE (hey, at least it's not a flip phone). I've been wanting to upgrade for a while and now seems to be the time to do it as my battery life is currently limited and failing.
    As I carry the phone in my pocket, two of my concerns are size and weight. The screen on my current phone is too small for my aging eyes yet some of the phones are too large and heavy.
    I am curious as to how much longer some of the models will still be supported I.E. series 11 or 12.
    Battery life is also high on my list.
    So mid sized, light weight with good battery life and sufficient length of Apple support lifespan.
    Any recommendations?
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    One of these years I will upgrade my iPhone 7. Currently, the front has come unglued in the middle, and now the front panel is elevated so you can see under the screen and inside the phone. The 3rd party phone case cover seems to be keeping the phone together, and it still works fine. Hopefully I can get another year or two out of it.

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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    If you enjoy taking photos, the camera on the 12 is really fantastic. Apparently the 13's camera is even better. People I know who ALWAYS traveled with a 'real' camera have gone to leaving that camera home a lot in favor of the iPhone 12.

    I'm going from the 12 to the 13 mostly because I'll give the 12 to one of my kids just to be a nice dad. (He's my only kid with an Android phone and lack of iMessaging has been inconvenient.)
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by jadedavid View Post
    I have an IPhone SE (hey, at least it's not a flip phone). I've been wanting to upgrade for a while and now seems to be the time to do it as my battery life is currently limited and failing.
    As I carry the phone in my pocket, two of my concerns are size and weight. The screen on my current phone is too small for my aging eyes yet some of the phones are too large and heavy.
    I am curious as to how much longer some of the models will still be supported I.E. series 11 or 12.
    Battery life is also high on my list.
    So mid sized, light weight with good battery life and sufficient length of Apple support lifespan.
    Any recommendations?
    iPhones are supported for five years, no less.

    Treat yourself right with a larger screen for your older eyes, and if you can handle one ounce heavier roughly (174 grams), and if you can afford it (I'll lend you the balance), plus you'll get money from Apple for your SE (trade exchange plan), ...I think you fit into the iPhone 13 with a 6.1" screen, with much improved battery life (larger and way more efficient), the latest A15 Bionic chip (super duper best in the whole world inside a mobile phone), and with two excellent improved cameras on the rear...among the best in the world, plus a much improved one on the front too.

    * The 13 mini is 5.4" ... your eyes would love that extra .7" with the 13, and from your SE you'll be saying "wow!"
    Support again is for 5 years, guaranteed by Apple; you will get iOS 20.

    P.S. If your iPhone SE is the 2016 model, then yes you might consider the iPhone 13 mini...5.4" is larger than 4".
    • There is the iPhone SE (2020) model ... 4.7" screen (you didn't mention which one you have).
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart001 View Post
    If you enjoy taking photos, the camera on the 12 is really fantastic. Apparently the 13's camera is even better. People I know who ALWAYS traveled with a 'real' camera have gone to leaving that camera home a lot in favor of the iPhone 12.

    I'm going from the 12 to the 13 mostly because I'll give the 12 to one of my kids just to be a nice dad. (He's my only kid with an Android phone and lack of iMessaging has been inconvenient.)
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    One of these years I will upgrade my iPhone 7. Currently, the front has come unglued in the middle, and now the front panel is elevated so you can see under the screen and inside the phone. The 3rd party phone case cover seems to be keeping the phone together, and it still works fine. Hopefully I can get another year or two out of it.

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    Bud, c'mon ... get on with the program ...
    Compare Apple iPhone 13 mini vs. Apple iPhone 13 vs. Apple iPhone 7 - GSMArena.com

    You are ready to upgrade; or the 13 mini or the 13. What applies to David above applies to you too.
    You guys have phones that are older than five years; in the mobile world that's a long time.
    The iPhone 13 family is perfect for you both; it will inject brand new regenerated power in all aspects in your life, and for less than a pair of high end audio interconnects (1 meter).
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Good thread. Thanks to all providing input. I've begun to think about an upgrade probably either later this year or sometime early next year. I have an iPhone 7+ and the battery is still good but not what it used to be. I'm not necessarily one to have the latest and greatest (I waited until a new generation came in before I got the 7+) but have read about how much better the cameras are in this new generation. If I see some type of deal, even before I intened to upgrade, I'll certainly consider it.
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    I just upgraded to a 13 Pro Max last night. I usually go as long as I can without upgrading since the entire procedure is a pain in the ass. I spent 3.5 hours at Verizon yesterday because I of course got the “new guy” and somehow, despite me telling him 5 times to make sure this new phone goes with my phone number and not my wife’s, he assigned it to my wife, disabling her phone while she’s at work on the Covid floor. She uses her phone a lot. MORON! He then has to get Verizon support on the line to put everything back the way it was. I had to have my wife paged at work to tell her the shit show that was going on and explain why her phone wasn’t working.

    I then got home and started the data migration process, of course, it took about 10 tries and reboots for the old phone to see the new phone and begin the data transfer. It never works as advertised.

    Then pairing the new phone with the Apple watch was this morning. Of course, neither sees the other and I had to erase the Apple Watch, pair it as a new phone and then restore its data from a back up. Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    I left the world of technology for this reason.


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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    One of these years I will upgrade my iPhone 7. Currently, the front has come unglued in the middle, and now the front panel is elevated so you can see under the screen and inside the phone. The 3rd party phone case cover seems to be keeping the phone together, and it still works fine. Hopefully I can get another year or two out of it.

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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    I’ll stick with my iPhone 11Pro for another year or so. Working good and it fits easily in my front pocket.
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Thanks Bob for the great info. Looks like a 13 mini is in my near future.
    And yes Mike, the PIA in transferring to a new phone is the biggest reason that I have been reluctant to upgrade.
    Perhaps for a younger generation it is not such a problem. But I'm fortunate to be able to somewhat utilize some of the functions of the phone.
    So I leave well enough alone once it works.
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I just upgraded to a 13 Pro Max last night. I usually go as long as I can without upgrading since the entire procedure is a pain in the ass. I spent 3.5 hours at Verizon yesterday because I of course got the “new guy” and somehow, despite me telling him 5 times to make sure this new phone goes with my phone number and not my wife’s, he assigned it to my wife, disabling her phone while she’s at work on the Covid floor. She uses her phone a lot. MORON!
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Phil, good to know. I just got lucky and it was a company store (on Cattleman), but unlucky when the guy was fiddling with this iPad looking thing for 10 minutes and looks at me and says “sorry, it’s my first day on the job.” Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    What I found most amazing was that his colleagues were not all that helpful to the poor fellow. At one point, he put the Verizon super tech support lady on speaker phone and I started to trouble shoot with her as this fellow was clearly in over his head.

    My biggest reason for upgrading to the 13ProMax was battery life. I don’t care about the camera as no amount of technology can fix my shitty photography skills (Joe teases me about this all the time) or any other new “feature”. Battery life for me is huge and I know that’s come a long way the past few iterations.


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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Mike - one of the places I'm retired from is Verizon (it was Bell Atlantic back then - that's what happens when one is ancient). I worked in Corporate (not for the wirless company) but was in the tax department advising them of such issues when the company was formed and known as BAMS (Bell Atlantic Mobile Services). Since I'm technically a retiree, the codes on my service are different than any other customers. For years, I had to go through arranging upgrades via calling the toll free customer service and getting the phone in the mail (and sending back the old one if appropriate). I forget when they changed it but it was quite a bit ago. While, I may not be technical guy vs. the typical technical support, as corporate management and dealing with issues that have financial consequences (or in the event of a union strike for the landlines), I went through training.

    It drove me nuts dealing with the local stores and sometimes getting someone an an authorized retailer who was clueless (and just like any other workplace corporate or not, I'm sure both company stores and authorized retailers have their internal politics). Then they had a third party (Prudential) administer pensions (not that I get much). That even drove me crazier. Sometimes multiple times in the same year (since I was previously getting a little discount but that changed about 8 years back when I went to a certain plan for everyone but I'd still get these employment verification requests), they would send me a request to show proof of my current employment (so I can relate to idiots). They finally did it one too many times and would do it more than once per year. So I finally sent a letter in December 2015 where I knew it would get their attention and I'll leave out the parts where I told them they need to provide better service (and all I did for the most part was sent them their own Yelp ratings). I have not received a subsequent request since then.

    "To Whom It May Concern:
    Reference is made to the above tracking number and five documents, labeled as
    follows:
    Doc 1- This was a result of an email I received today and the link took me to this site it contains the above tracking number
    Doc 2 -1099 and electronic bank deposit info ·This was recently furnished and it was also sent last June
    Doc 3 - validation of my eligible employment (via email) by Verizon last June as a result of furnishing Doc 2
    Doc 4 - Dec, 17, 2012 letter sent to my former residence indicating Prudential administers the Verizon Mgmt Pension Plan
    Doc 5 - Letter (Oct 2012) from Verizon indicating Doc 4 was forthcoming and verifying I've gotten a Verizon Pension since
    October 1996 and giving my employment information

    With regard to the above information. you seem to be missing the point I've been
    retired for19 years, I get an annuity (monthly) from Verizon (as the result of my many years of
    service) and don't either have a pay stub or the option to change my annuity status, except in
    the event of my death (and atthat point either the account will be canceled by someone else or
    due to nonpayment, although I can't say with 100% certainty that my bank doesn't have a
    branch in the afterlife),

    Doc 2 (the Federal Form 1099 indicating I am retired under the Verizon Mgmt Pension Plan)
    was driven over to the Merritt Island, FL Verizon corporate store this past June after I was given
    the run around online, at another store and on the telephone, Just the drive and wait time
    wasted an hour and a half of my time as indicated above, I cannot change my annuitant status.
    That was after another hour and a half was wasted before that. As a result of furnishing that
    data, I received Doc 3 a few days later. My status has not changed since I got Doc 3 and
    hoping to avoid an hour and a half or so going to the corporate store,I've wasted at least that
    with this same nonsense just a few months past June 2015. So much for customer service and
    appreciation for service given (I was there before there was a Verizon Wireless and before it
    was known as BAMS or Bell Atlantic Mobile Service and it wouldn't necessarily be around
    today without help from both myself and my colleagues based at Verizon Corp HQ).

    Doc 4 dated December 17,2012, sent to my oid Virginia residence along with a large
    information packet indicating Prudential now administers the Verizon Mgmt Pension Plan and
    that's why the bank electronic (Dec. 2015) transfer in my account shows it is from Prudential
    (and if you multiply the monthly amount by 12 it equals the annual amount in the Federal 1099).

    Doc 5 is from Verizon dated October 2012, indicating where I was employed prior to retirement
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Phil, you’ve had some real battles there. I’m not displeased with Verizon or the poor new employee who clearly was staring at his little iPad with the deer in the headlight look. Stuff happens, even when you say 5 times “make sure it’s my 0282 number, not my wife’s!”

    What’s sad is that I kind of expected it. No phone upgrade has ever gone smoothly.

    They have to come up with a better, easier way.


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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    One of these years I will upgrade my iPhone 7. Currently, the front has come unglued in the middle, and now the front panel is elevated so you can see under the screen and inside the phone. The 3rd party phone case cover seems to be keeping the phone together, and it still works fine. Hopefully I can get another year or two out of it.

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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    "If you see swollen batteries, it is a matter of time before it explodes and sets stuff on fire" Do need to worry about my belly?
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    This is usually caused by a swollen battery, which could explode or cause serious hazards. Please change your phone immediately.
    I didn’t realize the phone could catch on fire since it has been this way for years. So I am looking at the iPhone 13 Mini.

    Do I just need to swap a card between the 7 and the 13 to make it operational?
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    You'll need a new sim card. Your carrier should give it to you for free . . . but some stores will charge for it (typically $20). The format of the sim card has changed over the years so that's why you'll need a new one.

    I really suggest buying the 'no carrier specified' unlocked version directly from Apple. You can put any sim card in it.
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    I just upgraded to a 13 Pro Max last night. I usually go as long as I can without upgrading since the entire procedure is a pain in the ass. I spent 3.5 hours at Verizon yesterday because I of course got the “new guy” and somehow, despite me telling him 5 times to make sure this new phone goes with my phone number and not my wife’s, he assigned it to my wife, disabling her phone while she’s at work on the Covid floor. She uses her phone a lot. MORON! He then has to get Verizon support on the line to put everything back the way it was. I had to have my wife paged at work to tell her the shit show that was going on and explain why her phone wasn’t working.

    I then got home and started the data migration process, of course, it took about 10 tries and reboots for the old phone to see the new phone and begin the data transfer. It never works as advertised.

    Then pairing the new phone with the Apple watch was this morning. Of course, neither sees the other and I had to erase the Apple Watch, pair it as a new phone and then restore its data from a back up. Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    I left the world of technology for this reason.


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    Phil, good to know. I just got lucky and it was a company store (on Cattleman), but unlucky when the guy was fiddling with this iPad looking thing for 10 minutes and looks at me and says “sorry, it’s my first day on the job.” Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    What I found most amazing was that his colleagues were not all that helpful to the poor fellow. At one point, he put the Verizon super tech support lady on speaker phone and I started to trouble shoot with her as this fellow was clearly in over his head.

    My biggest reason for upgrading to the 13ProMax was battery life. I don’t care about the camera as no amount of technology can fix my shitty photography skills (Joe teases me about this all the time) or any other new “feature”. Battery life for me is huge and I know that’s come a long way the past few iterations.


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    You are right about the battery life; the 13 Pro Max is near the top of the world in that department, ...huge battery life upgrade.

    Now on the cameras; the iPhone 13 Pro Max will make you a better photographer, and videographer. One very important thing to know: You want the 256GB storage model (or higher...512GB or 1TB) because the 128GB model CANNOT use the new ProRes video mode.
    So it is absolutely imperative for the 13 Pro and Pro Max models to not go below 256GB of ROM storage. 128GB is simply not enough for the ProRes larger files.
    And no matter if you are a professional or not it is a feature of the highest end for the very first time ever in Apple iPhone's life history. It's like . . . the Webb telescope they'll send into space in December; it'll see over 15 billion light years in the universe, possibly helping us to know where it all began.

    Mike, I think the iPhone 13 Pro and 13 Pro Max (256GB minimum) are the most advanced and performing mobile phones of the entire planet; and not only for battery life and cameras, but almost everything else too. We are getting closer to quasi perfection in the world of mobile communication, the exploration and discovery of the universe, and everything that is inside of it. ...Including the kitchen sink and the high fidelity stereo sound system.
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart001 View Post
    You'll need a new sim card. Your carrier should give it to you for free . . . but some stores will charge for it (typically $20). The format of the sim card has changed over the years so that's why you'll need a new one.

    I really suggest buying the 'no carrier specified' unlocked version directly from Apple. You can put any sim card in it.
    Excellent Bart!

    A SIM card is usually free from where your purchase your phone.

    * Reading this thread brings me to a link (among hundreds more similar) which we can use to our benefits:
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    I'm glad I finally started this thread (it was in the back of my head for quite some time), because right from the bat I know that Dave and Bud are going to benefit tremendously in upgrading to the iPhone 13 mini, without an ounce of a doubt.

    Battery life is only one aspect where the iPhone 13 family is a huge improvement.
    Some professional users rank the new iPhone 13 series the best or near the top in battery life.
    This is a huge advancement for Apple in the year 2021.

    But there is much more; the way they implemented the A15 Bionic chip with the larger batteries makes them super efficient in long lasting time.

    One other thing; for the very first time in the history of Apple iPhones they have finally given us a 120HZ Adaptive refresh rate in the 13 Pro and Pro Max models.
    Why they didn't give that feature in the regular 13 and 13 mini models is unfortunate, a poor decision. Apple's strategy here is to wait furthermore till next year with the iPhone 14 and 14 mini. Personally I find this irritating from Apple. Anyway, the 13 and 13 mini are still a must upgrade for older iPhone owners, like Dave and Bud here who prefer a smaller screen and much improved battery time. ...In particular for Bud, as mentioned by others, with a swollen (dangerous) older battery.

    5 years of Apple support is awesome; but remember this too: rechargeable batteries don't last forever. After 2-3 years they lose their power, and 5 years is time to upgrade because in the world of mobile smartphones is like your first turntable when you were between the tender age of 12 and 16. It's a general figure of speech in the reality of the phone's business.

    The iPhone 11 series were and still are awesome.
    The 12 series is better.
    The new iPhone 13 series is a quantum leap in the utmost important aspects.

    Anyone who has an iPhone older than the 11 Series (including the iPhone 11 series) has an advantage to upgrade to the 13 series. If money is an issue I will lend it to you and you can repay me whenever you feel comfortable with, no charge, no interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthStar View Post
    You are right about the battery life; the 13 Pro Max is near the top of the world in that department, ...huge battery life upgrade.

    Now on the cameras; the iPhone 13 Pro Max will make you a better photographer, and videographer. One very important thing to know: You want the 256GB storage model (or higher...512GB or 1TB) because the 128GB model CANNOT use the new Pro Res video mode.
    So it is absolutely imperative for the 13 Pro and Pro Max models to not go below 256GB of ROM storage. 128GB is simply not enough for the Pro Res larger files.
    And no matter if you are a professional or not it is a feature of the highest end for the very first time ever in Apple iPhone's life history. It's like . . . the Webb telescope they'll send into space in December; it'll see over 15 billion light years in the universe, possibly helping us to know where it all began.

    Mike, I think the iPhone 13 Pro and 13 Pro Max (256GB minimum) are the most advanced and performing mobile phones of the entire planet; and not only for battery life and cameras, but almost everything else too. We are getting closer to quasi perfection in the world of mobile communication, the exploration and discovery of the universe, and everything that is inside of it. ...Including the kitchen sink and the high fidelity stereo sound system.
    I went with 1TB.


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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    No Android smartphone users yet. ...Call me unshaken, iPhones are tough to beat.
    Nothing in the whole world of mobile phones can approach the Apple A15 Bionic chip (5 nm) with CPU Hexa-core (2x3.22 GHz Avalanche + 4xX.X GHz Blizzard), nothing...no Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 series (865+, 870, 888+, 898, ...) or higher stuff...that'll be the day.
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

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    I went with 1TB.


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    If your iPhone 6 overheats from laying in the sun on your boat, DO NOT swish it in the water to cool it off quickly. Unless you want a new iPhone 12 Pro.

    Everything about the 12 Pro is better, and the camera is amazing, especially in low light. I’ll pass on the 13 for now, though.
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    • A quick glimpse ...
    iPhone 13 vs iPhone 12: Here are the biggest differences | Tom's Guide

    iPhone 13 vs. iPhone 12: Verdict

    "You expect phones to improve from one generation to the next, but the differences in our iPhone 13 vs. iPhone 12 comparison are quite stark. The better storage options, faster processor and camera improvements would be enough to make this a significant upgrade. Throw in improved battery life and — in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro models — fast-refreshing displays, and this is a big step up from last year.

    As good as the iPhone 12 models were, they're no match for what iPhone 13 delivers. And that's great news if you're in the market for an iPhone right now."

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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    …..
    Do I just need to swap a card between the 7 and the 13 to make it operational?
    No. If you want to keep all the apps and data on your new phone, you will have to follow a procedure that includes backing up all your data.

    Depending on your carrier and the type of plan you have, they may offer you a “free” upgrade.

    In any event, DO get rid of that phone right away. If it were to explode in your pocket, it can cause serious harm to you.

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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Just ordered an iPhone 13 Mini with 256K memory. Hopefully this will last at least five years.
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    Just ordered an iPhone 13 Mini with 256K memory. Hopefully this will last at least five years.
    We’ve had our 13s for a few weeks and like them. We have the larger ones. We order Series 7 watches at Verizon this weekend - double the trade in value for our old watches than Apple is giving …
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Specs between the iPhone 13 Pro Max, the iPhone 13 and the iPhone 13 mini ...
    Compare Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max vs. Apple iPhone 13 vs. Apple iPhone 13 mini - GSMArena.com

    * You can read the full review of the iPhone 13 Pro Max and iPhone 13 by clicking on [Review] @ the top in the black rectangle. They include technical measurements, and much more...from design, features, cameras, etc.

    Those are the top guns in 2021 and most likely in 2022 as well. ...And beyond ... till the iPhone 14 and 15 of course, when the top Notch and Lightning port will be gone forever.

    Below I added the iPhone 13 Pro, which also has its own review ...
    Compare Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max vs. Apple iPhone 13 Pro vs. Apple iPhone 13 - GSMArena.com

    It's basically the same as the 13 Pro Max except for the screen size (6.1" vs 6.7").
    And the phone's size and weight of course. And, the Pro Max has one more core of GPU (5-core graphics vs 4). ...Bigger battery, much better battery life, slightly better performance measurements of the chip processor. ...And the price ($200 difference / base price).
    Everything else between the 13 Pro Max and the 13 Pro are the same (cameras included).

    ☆ Mike bought the best one: iPhone 13 Pro Max with 1TB of internal ROM (storage).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    I didn’t realize the phone could catch on fire since it has been this way for years. So I am looking at the iPhone 13 Mini.

    Do I just need to swap a card between the 7 and the 13 to make it operational?
    Someone replied that I would need a new SIM card for the iPhone 13. That is NOT TRUE. I just went to ATT and they just swapped the SIM card between the 7 and 13. Oh well, I needed a nice drive to charge the car battery.
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Correct, just swapping your SIM card from your old iPhone to the new is all you need.

    * Charging the battery is good, charging the gas to the person who said that you needed a new SIM card is good too.

    How do you like your new iPhone 13 mini Bud? Just too new yet to check all the cool features and the super fast processor and the quality of the cameras? You'll be flying high ...
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthStar View Post
    How do you like your new iPhone 13 mini Bud? Just too new yet to check all the cool features and the super fast processor and the quality of the cameras? You'll be flying high ...
    Too early to tell, and still getting used to it. On one hand it is the same, but still it's different. I'm getting used to not having a button to push to activate it, but swipe up instead.
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    Too early to tell, and still getting used to it. On one hand it is the same, but still it's different. I'm getting used to not having a button to push to activate it, but swipe up instead.
    I always did the 'double tap' to activate it, or if you just pick it up it turns on (motion detection).
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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    Too early to tell, and still getting used to it. On one hand it is the same, but still it's different. I'm getting used to not having a button to push to activate it, but swipe up instead.
    Too bad Apple didn't equip it with an ultrasonic fingerprint scanner.
    ...Or under the screen or on the power button.

    Face ID is from the sixties, with our turntables.

    * Bart just mentioned the best and fastest way to turn it on; just pick it up (motion detection).

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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    just got the i-phone 13 pro (512) today, an upgrade to my trusty i-phone 7 with a fading battery.

    the facial recognition seems to be an easy thing, i'm already getting used to the upswipe, not tried the camera yet. like the screen and when i boosted the print size the bigger better screen made a very positive difference. the 7 was hard to read without my glasses, this one seems much better. this difference alone for my 70 year old eyes is worth the upgrade. it's slightly larger and slightly heavier than my i-phone 7, but close enough that it's about the same to live with.

    interfaces are slicker, but the changes are intuitive as you would expect with Apple so you can just do what you do and not any big surprises.

    it is blazing fast, and i'm hoping the battery life is an advertised. i have the 20 watt charger coming. also got the Tech 21 Evo check 'Phone Protection' case. which protects the rear camera lenses and makes the 13 pro easy to pick up. thin but effective. without this case, those rear lenses would be a problem.

    happy so far.

    have to play with the camera some when i get time.

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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthStar View Post
    Correct, just swapping your SIM card from your old iPhone to the new is all you need.

    * Charging the battery is good, charging the gas to the person who said that you needed a new SIM card is good too.

    How do you like your new iPhone 13 mini Bud? Just too new yet to check all the cool features and the super fast processor and the quality of the cameras? You'll be flying high ...
    no, you don't want to switch sim cards. apple tells you not to do that. you want to download your phone to the cloud, then upload into your phone keeping the new sim card. took about three minutes to switch phones and an hour for everything to load. but i could use the phone immediately.

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    Re: Are you about ready to upgrade your iPhone or Android smartphone?

    Currently I'm using a Redmi Android phone, which I paid very cheap (around $150). I use it for many purposes e.g. my business mail, even to tune my guitar.
    IMHO, Apple products are not a good bargain, very pricy.

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