Lampizator Baltic-3 DAC in da House!

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VoicesInMyHead said:
I think most Lampi owners buy Lampi to roll their own tubes anyway and just like more or less all high end gear also ships with standard power cables, most people have realised that an after market power cable can make a huge difference. but nobody wants to pay 300 to 3000 extra for the manufacturer to provide such a cable as everyone got their own favourites.
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Actually some audio manufacturers, not many but some, advise against other power cords. Shindo gear for example. When I was running Shindo in my system I smirked when I read that and plugged a few "other" power cords I had in place of what looked like a very stock power cord of some Japanese origin for the US market. Guess what? Mr. Ken Shindo's advice was spot on. No improvement and actually the system seemed a bit more lackluster suddenly.

Other manufacturers will tell you that in their opinion, a cord that carries no audio signal but AC that will be converted to DC by the power supply is a waste of time. Unless of course an unshielded power cord is causing trouble being near other sensitive cables and gear.

One can read an alternate view on shielded power cords here for example. Myths and Snake OIL : Empirical Audio
 
Folks, lets not turn this thread into another "myth and snake oil vs facts" thread please :-) Let's keep this thread specific to Lampi Baltic3 and possibly other Lampi dacs.
 
Devg said:
Folks, lets not turn this thread into another "myth and snake oil vs facts" thread please :-) Let keep this thread specific to Lampi Baltic3 and possibly other Lampi dacs.
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Did it come with a stock power cord? I'd like to hear your opinion on it with that cord. I don't like tubes and shielded cords.
 
Devg said:
If changing stock tube is a must, I was hoping they would provide an option to exclude tubes from the purchase - in that way, one can save a few bucks :)
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Not a must it seems, with the those crappy stock tubes you still described Baltic like this: "Mine had been burning since Monday and I am very impressed" :)
 
TheOctopus said:
Did it come with a stock power cord? I'd like to hear your opinion on it with that cord. I don't like tubes and shielded cords.
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Honestly, I haven’t paid much attention if it came with a power cord. I will double check the packaging but don’t remember seeing one.
 
VoicesInMyHead said:
Not a must it seems, with the those crappy stock tubes you still described Baltic like this: "Mine had been burning since Monday and I am very impressed" :)
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Well, don't take those to your heart. I know there are many Lampi fans that might get offended but that wasn't my intention. Moreover, I was quoting those words from some long term Lampi friends. Our mind also works differently - I am still impressed even with the stock tubes but once you hear with better ones, as you know, the rest is history.... ;)
 
CPP said:
I got some rack space limitations (8") and it would require a whole to new rack.
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I think you might just be able to fit with GZ34. The 5U4G is about 5" measured from the base and the GZ34 is about 2.75". So there is a 2.25" of leeway. When I change mine sometime in the weekend, I will take some measurements.
 
Devg said:
I think you might just be able to fit with GZ34. The 5U4G is about 5" measured from the base and the GZ34 is about 2.75". So there is a 2.25" of leeway. When I change mine sometime in the weekend, I will take some measurements.
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Is the DAC about what 5 1/8" on its feet ( no tube)
 
I'm still running in caps and tubes, but the Lampizator Baltic-3 is proving to be an outstanding DAC.

Excellent orchestral soundstaging, instrumental imaging precision and placement, and overall soundstage depth, breadth and height. Very, very quiet and tonally neutral with accuracy of instrumental and vocal timbres, with the body, weight, warmth, and richness of real music. Superb resolution, definition, articulation, and inner detail, yet exceptionally natural-sounding.

Just a close-up pic with the mesh-plate EML 5U4G installed the as the rectifier.

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Sounds like an enjoyable DAC although I usually find richness, weight, warmth and yet a neutral tonal presentation an elusive combination. I do prefer to listen to music away from dead neutral towards a more meaty and a richer presentation since I listen for pleasure, not to review or master music. If that dac can accomplish all those parameters at once, it is a very impressive dac indeed. Following your progress with it.
 
TheOctopus said:
Sounds like an enjoyable DAC although I usually find richness, weight, warmth and yet a neutral tonal presentation an elusive combination.
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Elusive, but not unheard of; they are not a "mutually exclusive" set of attributes. Dynaudio speakers are another product that has these attributes, as does the Rega Planar 10 and Apheta 3 MC cartridge.

When I say "neutral", think of a digital photo with 18% gray with R/G/B values of 128/128/128. This does not mean that red, green, blue within that photo are not their respective colors; they are, however these hues are uncomtaminated by coloration from a lack of neutrality.

Hope that clears that up.
 
Puma Cat said:
Elusive but not unheard of. Dynaudio speakers are another product that has these attributes...

When I say "neutral", think of a digital photo with 18% gray with R/G/B values of 128/128/128. This does not mean that red, green, blue within that photo are not their respective colors; they are, however these hues are uncomtaminated by coloration from a lack of neutrality.

Hope that clears that up.
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Sounds more like the D'Agostino amps from my previous system which is a very elusive combination indeed. Yes, I understand what you mean. Richness of tone and generous harmonic envelope without excessive coloration, overall darkness, lack of upper octave natural energy, sparkle or perceived air and resolution are traits that are very valuable. Especially from one box, under $10k and not at multiples of the cost... Sounds good so far!
 
TheOctopus said:
I usually find richness, weight, warmth and yet a neutral tonal presentation an elusive combination.
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usually it is dynamic and pace where the rich&warmth do not stand out.
so, how does the lampi do with that?
interesting and beautiful unit btw
 
Devg said:
Those who are wondering what those 6SN7 tubes with red base in the photos are - they are Shuguang WE 6sn7 Plus. The blue 6SN7 are the Psvane 6SN7-BE. Would be interesting to know why Lampi choose these two particular ones.
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Hi, the story is extremely simple. We bought 30 pairs of EVERY 6SN7 and dereivatives octals - that are CURRENTLY produced in the world and we made a switching machine allowing to swap tubes by a remote relay on the flight - and we made A-B championship, with quarter finals, semi finals and finals. When the blindfold was removed - these two tubes got the gold medal ex Aequo. They are simply the best.
 
Thank you so much for your thoughts. Very impressive!

LampizatOr said:
Hi, the story is extremely simple. We bought 30 pairs of EVERY 6SN7 and dereivatives octals - that are CURRENTLY produced in the world and we made a switching machine allowing to swap tubes by a remote relay on the flight - and we made A-B championship, with quarter finals, semi finals and finals. When the blindfold was removed - these two tubes got the gold medal ex Aequo. They are simply the best.
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CPP said:
I wonder how tall the dac stands with the tubes installed ?
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The minimum total height from feet to top of tubes you will achieve depending on tubes model installed is 19.5 CM you should ask for reduced height tubes, with the usual ones height will be around 25 CM.
 
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