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    Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    A couple of days ago i went with a friend to listen to Zellaton Klassik Stage speakers (blow my mind but that's a different story).
    The owner used MSB Premiers DAC with the streaming module as the source. what was familiar to me was the same filling I got in Munich on most or all the rooms that used MSB DAC as their source.

    Long story short i just got myself a new MSB Premier DAC from the local distributor.
    for the time being, i'm using his machine (black) till my silver unit that had been ordered will arrive

    regarding sound, its better than my Melco NZ and Luxman D10X combo, in a couple of things - the stage is bigger, the mids are clearer and the whole dame thing is just so much closer to analog.

    is it worth the price for the minor differences, hell yeah! - The easiest way to put it is: It's just more engaging to listen to.

    I think Jeff Fritz sums it all up in his premier review from 2021 - "The Premier is a super-high-resolution, completely silent, utterly dynamic component that lets the music flow through it less hindered than through anything else I’ve heard. In terms of sound quality, it’s the best digital front end I’ve had in my system."
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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Congratulations
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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Congratulations! MSB makes some great gear!




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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Big congrats! Love MSB. The best! So musical.


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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Quote Originally Posted by gabweb View Post
    Congratulations
    Mazal tov
    Thank you so much Gabi

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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil View Post
    Congratulations! MSB makes some great gear!

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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Big congrats! Love MSB. The best! So musical.


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    Thank you so much Mike.

    i don't know if you remember but i was the one who asked you somewhere (either in this forum or in youtube) about the difference in sound between the D10X and the MSB.

    I would like to take advantage and ask; how do you configure your MSB gain (High, or Low)when using the Luxman C900u pre amplifier?, I set it on low.

    appreciate if you can share with me this information

    Thanks again for the words and advice.

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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Quote Originally Posted by exupgh12 View Post
    Thank you so much Mike.

    i don't know if you remember but i was the one who asked you somewhere (either in this forum or in youtube) about the difference in sound between the D10X and the MSB.

    I would like to take advantage and ask; how do you configure your MSB gain (High, or Low)when using the Luxman C900u pre amplifier?, I set it on low.

    appreciate if you can share with me this information

    Thanks again for the words and advice.
    To my ears, low sounds better.


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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    The speakers are S5Mk2 in Rose Mcast, right?
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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Welcome to the world of MSB!
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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Congratulations! Your MSB DAC should keep you happy for many years to come.
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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    To my ears, low sounds better.


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    Thank you for the quick replay Mike, Cheers.

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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    The speakers are S5Mk2 in Rose Mcast, right?
    Those are S3Mk2 in Rose Mcast.

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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Quote Originally Posted by nc42acc View Post
    Welcome to the world of MSB!
    Thank you so much

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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Quote Originally Posted by Audio 1 View Post
    Congratulations! Your MSB DAC should keep you happy for many years to come.
    Thank you so much, i do hope to enjoy this one for the years to come.

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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Quote Originally Posted by exupgh12 View Post
    A couple of days ago i went with a friend to listen to Zellaton Klassik Stage speakers (blow my mind but that's a different story).
    The owner used MSB Premiers DAC with the streaming module as the source. what was familiar to me was the same filling I got in Munich on most or all the rooms that used MSB DAC as their source.

    Long story short i just got myself a new MSB Premier DAC from the local distributor.
    for the time being, i'm using his machine (black) till my silver unit that had been ordered will arrive

    regarding sound, its better than my Melco NZ and Luxman D10X combo, in a couple of things - the stage is bigger, the mids are clearer and the whole dame thing is just so much closer to analog.

    is it worth the price for the minor differences, hell yeah! - The easiest way to put it is: It's just more engaging to listen to.

    I think Jeff Fritz sums it all up in his premier review from 2021 - "The Premier is a super-high-resolution, completely silent, utterly dynamic component that lets the music flow through it less hindered than through anything else I’ve heard. In terms of sound quality, it’s the best digital front end I’ve had in my system."
    Wonderful system from front to back. Curious if the amps are the M-900U or M-10X?

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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Quote Originally Posted by mxk116 View Post
    Wonderful system from front to back. Curious if the amps are the M-900U or M-10X?

    Enjoy!
    Thank you for your words.
    Those are M900u Amp, M10x has not been introduced in Israel yet due to demand in the state and Japan and supply issues.
    The first M10x shipment is supposed to get here by end of 2022.

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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    I spent an hour with a fully optioned MSB Select II but it didn't really float my boat in the installation I heard it in. I bought Esoteric Grandioso D1X instead, which I haven't heard yet. At this end of the performance spectrum so many influential factors come into play you really need to get everything right otherwise that one weak link will let the whole team down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I spent an hour with a fully optioned MSB Select II but it didn't really float my boat in the installation I heard it in. I bought Esoteric Grandioso D1X instead, which I haven't heard yet. At this end of the performance spectrum so many influential factors come into play you really need to get everything right otherwise that one weak link will let the whole team down.
    I find this a bizarre post on a thread started by someone who just purchased an MSB Premier DAC. You listened to an MSB Select II for an hour in a system that's not yours and it didn't float your boat. First of all, that is not the DAC that is being discussed in this thread and what validity do your comments have with spending an hour listening to the MSB Select II in a system that's not yours in a thread where someone just bought an MSB Premier? And then you turn around and talk about a DAC that you just bought and you haven't heard yet. I hope your boat doesn't sink after your new DAC arrives.
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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    You completely missed the point. To get to the point, you can get an outstanding result without having to go to the extreme of the flagship DAC if the whole of your music ecosystem works in harmony with the constituent parts. Or putting it another way, the flagship DAC doesn't automatically achieve the best result simply because it is the flagship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    You completely missed the point. To get to the point, you can get an outstanding result without having to go to the extreme of the flagship DAC if the whole of your music ecosystem works in harmony with the constituent parts. Or putting it another way, the flagship DAC doesn't automatically achieve the best result simply because it is the flagship.
    You missed the point. This thread was started by someone who just purchased the MSB Premier DAC. Your opinion about "not having to go to the extreme of the flagship DAC" doesn't belong in this thread IMO. You should start your own thread if you want to convince people not to go to the "extreme" of buying a flagship DAC. Your comments in this thread are the proverbial turd in the punch bowl.
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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Not only have you missed the point but you're reading too much in to it. There is no hint anywhere that I'm trying to convince people not to go to the extreme of buying a flagship DAC. Sometimes I wonder if Americans have a different comprehension of English to the rest of the English speaking world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Not only have you missed the point but you're reading too much in to it. There is no hint anywhere that I'm trying to convince people not to go to the extreme of buying a flagship DAC. Sometimes I wonder if Americans have a different comprehension of English to the rest of the English speaking world.
    I didn't miss your point and you directly stated that you don't have to go to the extreme of buying a flagship DAC. In case you forgot what you just posted, here is your quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    You completely missed the point. To get to the point, you can get an outstanding result without having to go to the extreme of the flagship DAC if the whole of your music ecosystem works in harmony with the constituent parts. Or putting it another way, the flagship DAC doesn't automatically achieve the best result simply because it is the flagship.
    I would advise you to knock off the nonsense about Americans having a different comprehension of English.
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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Not only have you missed the point but you're reading too much in to it. There is no hint anywhere that I'm trying to convince people not to go to the extreme of buying a flagship DAC. Sometimes I wonder if Americans have a different comprehension of English to the rest of the English speaking world.
    The real question is what relevance this and your earlier post have to this topic thread?? You don't mention the MSB Premier, and it isn't even clear what you are trying to communicate. Are you advising readers to buy a DAC they have never heard??
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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Hi Guy,
    Congratulations on your new DAC.
    Are you keeping the D-10x as a CD Transport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnp88 View Post
    Hi Guy,
    Congratulations on your new DAC.
    Are you keeping the D-10x as a CD Transport?
    Hi,
    Yes, I'm keeping the D10X for spinning CD & SACD.

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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Congrats on your MSB Premier DAC! Terrific sound quality, build quality and company. I hope it brings you many years of enjoyment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    Congrats on your MSB Premier DAC! Terrific sound quality, build quality and company. I hope it brings you many years of enjoyment.

    Ken
    Thank you Ken for the kind words.

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    Re: Got New DAC - MSB Premier

    Some more thought on the changes and differences

    Luxman D10X+Melco - Quiet, sound energetic, and directness (or whatever you want to call it), the combo has great attack and macro capability, accuracy, speed, and control.

    MSB Premier - Quiet, a bit less dynamic than the Luxman (a bit more refined), a wider and deeper stage, the sound has a certain tendency forward, great resolution but still preserves thick sound texture.

    Vocals are to die for, the ability to "dig" into the track without being harsh on the sound.

    At the end of the day, these are two excellent converters that manage to produce very enjoyable sound in my system, a sound that will put a huge smile on every listener.

    If I had to live with only one device, the Premier is my choice, as it holds the stick from both ends more perfectly (dynamism, super-high resolution, absolute silence, and musicality on the verge of analog magic).

    Since the D10X is a combined device (CD\SACD), this eliminates the need to choose between, and both devices remain with me.

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