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May 4, 2019, 11:39 AM #51
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May 4, 2019, 07:41 PM #52
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May 5, 2019, 09:53 AM #53
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I had an ARC REF10 prior to upgrading the MSB to the Select II. I was very sure that the "hyperbole" of MSB was just that and that surely the pre stage on the Select couldn't be better. Well I was wrong. The MSB direct was, IMHO, better. More neutral and alive. It was an easy choice and selling the REF10 helped make my rationalization of upgrading to the Select II much easier.
However, upon the recommendation of several who have tried (and purchased it), I was cajoled into trying the L1 Stereo + X1 power supply. Took a couple of days to get the gain just right but once matched I was pretty shocked how good it was. Depth and width definitely increased and noise floor (amazing with the MSB direct) got even better. I was flabbergasted as I wasn't expecting any improvement. I can't say the bass was any better. More dimensionality, which is hard to imagine and more neutral, another aspect I was surprised to find.
Now is it worth the price? At near or just under or over 50K list, there lies the issue. I can't say. I have been listening direct again for the last two weeks and I definitely "miss" the L1/X1 BUT the MSB direct is world class, IMHO, better than a world class preamp I sold the REF10 and since I am digital only, find it difficult to justify the cost for the incremental improvement. BUT there was a significant improvement which I was not expecting.
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May 5, 2019, 01:10 PM #54
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May 5, 2019, 02:46 PM #55
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Yes I used all Gobel cables. I didn't, but would have like to have used, a Gobel plug to the X1. I have Gobel plugs everywhere else. Timbre were not drastically different but subtle, again slightly in favor of the L1/X1. Microdynamics was a significant surprise in improvement possibly because the noise floor was so improved.
My Gobel speakers are extremely good at producing that holographic stage I find endearing about many other speakers like some panels, MBLs, etc and the improvement in space with the L1/X1 was also stellar.
It was an eye opening event for me that I wasn't expecting.
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May 5, 2019, 04:31 PM #56
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May 5, 2019, 07:04 PM #57
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May 5, 2019, 10:21 PM #58
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I find your comments intriguing particularly because of how adamant the conventional wisdom is that the MSB sounds better without a preamp.
It speaks volumes about the quality of the two-box CH L1/X1 stereo combo. And you may be even more surprised about the positive effect of the 4-Box CH L1-X1 mono combo. Although at that point, the marginal performance/cost ratio may become harder to justify.
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May 6, 2019, 06:48 AM #59
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I apologize for jumping into a CH Precision thread, however I felt it worthwhile mentioning that I have also tested MSB Select direct vs through a preamp, and preferred the sound including the preamp. The amps were Naim Statement set. I would love to compare CH to Naim... Best regards to all.
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May 6, 2019, 09:19 AM #60
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I have an M1.1 which was set to a global feedback of 10% and gain of 2.5. MSB recommends using their DAC with volume setting at 94-98 depending upon the preamp with 98 being recommended for most preamps. The L1 was set at a gain of 0. So I listened to some of my go to albums while trying to to matching all the options. Ultimately I found leaving M1.1 at 2.5 was best. MSB set to 98 was the correct setting. Increasing the gain/sensitivity on the XLR input on the L1 to 3.5 I found was ultimately the right ticket and closest to what I was used to with the MSB direct
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May 7, 2019, 03:13 PM #61
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Francisco
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May 7, 2019, 07:01 PM #62
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I didn’t name anyone!
But if the shoe fits wear it.
Tal vez te queda también?Larry
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May 7, 2019, 07:13 PM #63
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Larry
Lumin U1
Chord Dave Dac
Vac Master Preamp
Vac 200IQ Amp
Magico S3 Mk2 in Mcast Pewter
Denali 6000S
Ansuz and MIT cabling
Timbernation walnut racks
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May 7, 2019, 08:12 PM #64
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May 7, 2019, 08:32 PM #65
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1. Now it comes that he did not name anyone ?, it was obvious to whom he insulted.
2. I very much doubt that Mike wants special privileges for being the owner. When he publishes is one more.Francisco
Aries Cerat Kassandra Ref. MKII / Taiko Extreme Server / Gryphon Essence Preamplifier and Stereo Amplifier / Rockport Atria I / REL S-812 (2) / Göbel XLR (2), Göbel Ethernet and USB Cables / MIT Magnum MA Speakers Cables / Shunyata Everest 8000 / Shunyata Omega XC (1), Sigma NR V2 (4) and Alfa NR V1 (2) / Taiko Switch / Paul Hynes SR7T Double Rail / Farad Super3 / Doepke DFS-2 40A / GigaWatt G-C16A 2P / Fuse module AHP 4Gi / Center Stage2 0.8, 1.0 and 1.5
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May 7, 2019, 08:34 PM #66
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Let’s just get this topic back on track.
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May 8, 2019, 02:54 PM #67
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May 9, 2019, 08:16 AM #68
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Just In, CH M10 in the Dark finish, considerably deeper than M1.1
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May 9, 2019, 08:16 AM #69
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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May 9, 2019, 08:20 AM #70
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Great pictures. The depth should be due to two big transformers inside the case. Similar to MBL 9011. Can you also take L10 photos please?
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May 9, 2019, 08:43 AM #71
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CH L10 in Gold. Looks like they also have another L10 next to it - showing it's back.
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May 9, 2019, 01:14 PM #72
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Nice looking gear! With performance to match I imagine.
Larry
Lumin U1
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May 11, 2019, 12:43 AM #73
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Hi All
I’m an owner of a CH Precision preamp and amp and also agree with some of the posts about customer service. I have had several dealings with Florian and their response to questions and supplying some additional parts was first class. Best I have come across to date.
Yes their equipment price is not cheap but at least they back up an outstanding product with customer service unlike some other brands I won’t mention on public forums.
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May 16, 2019, 01:57 PM #74
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L 10 inside
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May 16, 2019, 09:24 PM #75
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Impressive. Did anyone hear it?
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May 17, 2019, 02:39 AM #76
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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May 17, 2019, 10:35 AM #77
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Will be sold starting from december together with M 10
P 10 will be ready half 2010
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May 18, 2019, 03:17 AM #78
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Some more shots from the CH room(s) during the show. CH was clearly the dominant on the highest level among the manufacturers of solid state electronics. Wonderful products by great people.
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May 18, 2019, 03:56 AM #79
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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