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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    Actually a pretty good idea. Funny that Furutech lists some awards it has won for "2018." Audio people have no shame!

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    i don't know about awards but i think these little devices may be very handy with some of the heavy cables in the market including my own power cords. I ordered a bunch to try them and if they actually improve the sound as well as hold them in the correct position it will be a bonus.

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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    English review is ready - link


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    Furutech NCF Booster

    While Iím guilty of some silly (high priced) tweaks in my system. But this is just ridiculous. There is no possible way that lifting a cable off the ground will do anything accept take money from your bank account and put it in theirs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phishphan View Post
    While I’m guilty of some silly (high priced) tweaks in my system. But this is just ridiculous. There is no possible way that lifting a cable off the ground will do anything accept take money from your bank account and put it in theirs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phishphan View Post
    While I’m guilty of some silly (high priced) tweaks in my system. But this is just ridiculous. There is no possible way that lifting a cable off the ground will do anything accept take money from your bank account and put it in theirs.


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    Your assumption is absurd. We spend 99% of our time discussing why this sounds better, that sounds better, people professing Shunyata cables vs. that cable, amp stands, why the best "isolation stands makes so much difference", power isolation, etc BUT when it comes to ensuring that our plug connectors on some of these HUGE powercord have a tight fit with the component, it is "ridiculous".

    Now that is ridiculous. I am using a thick power cord (Gobel, not even close to as thick or heavy as competitors) on a very expensive DAC (MSB Select) and the one problem I am having, is ensuring a good tight fit between plug and DAC power supply as the torque of the plug angles the fitting in a precarious way. This device, ingenious in my mind, ensures that torque is eliminated the fit perfect ensuring a perfect connection.

    This is definitely one of the more appropriate tweaks in audio compared to some of the real snake oil.

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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    Quote Originally Posted by Phishphan View Post
    While I’m guilty of some silly (high priced) tweaks in my system. But this is just ridiculous. There is no possible way that lifting a cable off the ground will do anything accept take money from your bank account and put it in theirs.
    Yep, on the floor would be a better plan. Theoretically in the floor wall corner might be better yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phishphan View Post
    There is no possible way that lifting a cable off the ground will do anything...
    Whether or not lifting a cable off the ground does anything is debatable, and probably depends on what is covering the floor and the relative humidity of the room. But that's not the question here, as the purpose of the NCF Booster isn't to lift the plug off the floor per se... it's to support the weight of the plug that's already elevated off the floor (or shelf if it's at the component end). IMO, this is a worthy concept whether it results in better sound or not, as heavy, drooping cables can mean poor connections and/or stress on cables and components.
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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    I added two yesterday supporting the power cables that go into my pass labs amps sitting on SRA ohio platforms. I don't know if its the better cable connection/alignment or perhaps the materials reacting with the furutech FI-50 NCF plugs in my sablon audio power cables but there was a change similar to what was described in the review above. It's only been one day so a lot more listening to come.
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    Review of the Booster on Soundstage Ultra. AShark not letting me post links yet.

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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    We have sold over 100 of these devices in the last few months and every single person that bought them , bought more.
    I wont say anymore since that tells the tale.
    I personally am using them in my system on all the power cords and on my speaker cables as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by bendingwave View Post
    we have sold over 100 of these devices in the last few months and every single person that bought them , bought more.
    I wont say anymore since that tells the tale.
    I personally am using them in my system on all the power cords and on my speaker cables as well
    big thumbs up!

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    ....and it's a proven fact that can be measured, that carpet carried zero static electricity!!! Yes, I need some for the power cords as the AQ Hurricane are HEAVY beasts, lol. It's worth not having the strain. I just cut some wooden carpet lifters for all cables and have heard a difference. What many don't realize is that sound differences are not usually night and day in this league, but subtle ones. Lowering the noise floor WILL allow yo to hear details that you would miss otherwise. Making bold statements about products that you have obviously NOT had in your system and most probably have never evne heard in a store shows major ignorance. Nothing to see here, just move on...
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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    Quote Originally Posted by Ctsooner View Post
    ....and it's a proven fact that can be measured, that carpet carried zero static electricity!!! ...................
    Static electricity is just a difference in potential between two things. At least one of those things needs a very high insulation resistance. Can't call it DC (Direct Current) because no current is involved until it discharges or arcs and then it's gone (for the moment). It's of no concern to the low impedance AC power system, but it is of concern to sensitive signal inputs, when connecting cables. Once the cables are connected it's no concern to them either.

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    If you have fire hose sized powe cables with 5 lb connectors on each end, you need a cable bra to keep one end of the connector in the wall and the other end plugged into your components. I have seen lots of pictures of people’s systems with fire hose cables and you can clearly see the cables trying to pull themselves out of the wall and out of the components. They are barely making a connection.
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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    A fire hose size AC power cord is like adding a few heavy links to a chain and thinking that somehow it will be stronger. Georg Ohm and Gustav Kirchhoff would not understand and neither does the electricity.

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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    A fire hose size AC power cord is like adding a few heavy links to a chain and thinking that somehow it will be stronger. Georg Ohm and Gustav Kirchhoff would not understand and neither does the electricity.
    I can't speak about static electricity since I am not a scientist however a heavy end on the end of a cable acts a lever from physics and to pervent that lever pulling down on the cable and forcing the connector to come loose or only have a partial connection to the wall is what the cable boosters do as well as what the material itself does . This can you read about in the literature since again I am not a scientist and won't make claims about what I don't truly understand.
    One thing I do appreciate however is how everyone agrees that isolating their components on spikes/racks/stands etc/ improves the sound of the system particularly the focus and clarity of images and then think that laying the wire on the ground where it is then affected by vibration isn't affected by the same vibrations. Mechanical vibration effects all components and that includes wire and cables.

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    Speed, they do that to sell them. I'm not, nor do I want to be an engineer. I just listen to things and if I like them and I can afford, I purchase. I finally got power cords for the first time once I heard the Dragon and Hurricane. They made such a positive difference, that my wife asked what I had purchased. She didn't see any new boxes, so she wasn't able to figure it out (I use plants to hide cables and outlets along with defusing the sound on the sides of the TV and a few other places). Cheap and helps the room.

    I also was with Garth Powell when he the top three cables in prototype form. We all played with them, including various connectors. I promise you that we all heard the same differences. Subtle for sure, but they were very real. He has measurements for everything he does. I'm sure you and others may try and poke holes, which is your prerogative, but I trust my ears. As for the topic at hand, I was thinking about getting a set for the component end as I plug them all into a Niagara and don't need it for that. Also the cable running from the Niagara into the wall is fully supported by the wood blocks I made and it took the stress off both plugs.
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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    Quote Originally Posted by Ctsooner View Post
    Speed, do all cables sound the same too?
    Of course not. There are lot's of bad audiophile cables out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BendingWave View Post
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    One thing I do appreciate however is how everyone agrees that isolating their components on spikes/racks/stands etc/ improves the sound of the system particularly the focus and clarity of images and then think that laying the wire on the ground where it is then affected by vibration isn't affected by the same vibrations. Mechanical vibration effects all components and that includes wire and cables.
    Well NO.
    Only some audiophiles think that.
    It's just turntables, loudspeakers, vacuum tubes and components with moving parts (fans, hard-drives & CD players) that need to be concerned with vibrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    Of course not. There are lot's of bad audiophile cables out there.
    Thanks Speed. I actually changed my post as I read it adn it didn't sound nice. Sorry if you took it the wrong way. the problem when we discuss digital is that there are too many variables and right now, I bet we can't even understand fully what they all may be. As I've posted in this thread or another one, I've heard the same DAC sound different in two different outlets in my room. I had the Electrican pull two separated dedicated outlets that have individual earth grounds when they built my townhouse. He didn't charge me anything extra, so I thought it would be fun to have. The same DAC sounded a bit different on the dedicated one, the circuit that the lights and other things are on. Using the Niagara conditioner (or whatever Garth calls, it, lol) made a huge difference adn was best on all set ups. It really shined when I put it on one of the dedicated outlets and then put the power amps on the other one without any conditioner.

    Again, I don't understand any of it. I also use an EMO medical grade isolator in-between two Wireworld Platinum cat8 ethernet cords for my servers connection to the net (I can also go fully stealth and not have it on the net at all). I noticed a substantial difference doing this compared to no isolation.
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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    Well NO.
    Only some audiophiles think that.
    It's just turntables, loudspeakers, vacuum tubes and components with moving parts (fans, hard-drives & CD players) that need to be concerned with vibrations.
    No that is not a fact. YOU MAY NOT BE CONCERNED that does not make everyone not concerned. The internet is full of ONE man surveys . Please don't make generalizations that are not fact based. You have your opinion but you do not speak for the majority. Every show I do and go to I see EVERY single room addressing these issues.
    . Every High end manufacturer I am aware of is very concerned with mechanical vibration. CH Precision for example goes to great pains to make sure their products and structural sound and mechanical isolated from vibration.
    If a tube product needs isolation why doesn't a solid state Speed? All circuit boards are subject to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BendingWave View Post
    No that is not a fact. YOU MAY NOT BE CONCERNED that does not make everyone not concerned. The internet is full of ONE man surveys . Please don't make generalizations that are not fact based. You have your opinion but you do not speak for the majority. Every show I do and go to I see EVERY single room addressing these issues...................................
    OK, show me the facts!
    Now that some high-tech cell-phones have accelerometers. You can add that into the audio measurements and O-scope traces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    OK, show me the facts!
    Now that some high-tech cell-phones have accelerometers. You can add that into the audio measurements and O-scope traces.
    Wow I just did Skater.
    There isn't one manufacturer of high end audio products that doesn't address mechanical vibration in their products.
    It is evident in amps, pre- amps, transports, speakers, cables etc.
    You are just like many on the internet that when you don't agree everyone else is wrong.
    What cell phones have to do with this is beyond me. I don't know of any manufacturer that does NOT address this.
    I speak from experience not from opinion. I guess these companies are all incorrect and you are right.
    I am not trying to argue with you just make a point that it is important and does effect the result. If you don't agree that is your prerogative however not everything can be effectively measured or understood through measurements at least at this time.

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    Actually I asked two well known designers about this topic and they said OF COURSE they address it. They address it in every aspect of their designs. The boards are as mechanically isolated as they are able to get them and they also chose their feed specifically for the cabinet they are using. Different materials etc for their CNC cabinets and different ones for their folded metal/steel plate cabinets. Different resonance I assume. I know that when I change out footers on my amps, DAC and server, there are sound differences.

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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    Something new from NCF Booster family - Brace Power Connector Damping Support
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    How much for the power connector dampening supports?
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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    How much for the power connector dampening supports?
    I found double for 205$ - link
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    Quote Originally Posted by BendingWave View Post
    One thing I do appreciate however is how everyone agrees that isolating their components on spikes/racks/stands etc/ improves the sound of the system particularly the focus and clarity of images and then think that laying the wire on the ground where it is then affected by vibration isn't affected by the same vibrations. Mechanical vibration effects all components and that includes wire and cables.
    Precisely
    And it costs nothing to make such a simple experience as this

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    I'm going to start selling audiophile worry beads and there will be a bead for every audiophile angst. The worry beads will be a very long string due to all the different audiophile angst that looms out there. Of course the beads will be cryo treated and damped in order to prevent any sort of resonance and to ensure their clarity of thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    I'm going to start selling audiophile worry beads and there will be a bead for every audiophile angst. The worry beads will be a very long string due to all the different audiophile angst that looms out there. Of course the beads will be cryo treated and damped in order to prevent any sort of resonance and to ensure their clarity of thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    ...

    How much Mark?
    $100 per bead and a bargain at that Mike!
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    Re: Furutech NCF Booster

    It's amazing that someone can write such a long review about an audio product that doesn't do anything.

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    Furutech NCF Booster

    Iím looking to obtain one and have it on my someday list, I am not interested if it would do anything to sound, but more so for helping support the power cable coming out the preamp that sits up Iím guessing 4Ē.

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