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    ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    I have been digging into various isolators and switches for ethernet sources to my Lumin S1.

    Do any of you have experience with the products below, or have suggestions on others? After considerable research I have narrowed it down to these two.

    1. Aqvox: AQ-Switch SE (this is a rather new switch and an upgrade from the previous non "SE" version)

    http://www.myhifishop.de/Devices/AQ-...isola::87.html


    2. SOTM: ISO - Cat6 (it's not clear on how this interacts with Cat 7/8, but it seems people use it regardless of the cable type.

    https://sotm-usa.com/products/iso-ca...e-noise-filter

    It seems many folks on various forums are using one of these brands with SOTM being far more visible as a known brand. Aqvox is celebrated in some other forums such as Computer Audiophile. And, please... save comments like it's just 1's and 0's. To my ears, there are monster differences with the whole ethernet chain. I'm loving my AQ Diamond at the moment!

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Aqvox: Who are these guys? Why no picts of inside? 750 euro upcharge from stock switch??...Try a Netgear GS108.

    Cables: Well that's an area I chose not to comment on.....

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Anyone have thoughts here?

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Just got an Ansuz X ethernet cable. Made for a nice improvement when streaming. A switch is on my radar but looking for the right one. The one I have now is a cheap cisco pocket switch.
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Alex & John Swenson at Uptone are working on what sounds like an all-out assault on a switch. Long thread over at Computer Audiophile. I'm waiting for that one.
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Thanks Afveep - I'm really looking forward to seeing what Uptone comes up with !

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    Swenson recommends the Netgear switch for now and in my system the GS108 was a nice upgrade.

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    ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Taking the lazy way, not reading.

    Is it being said there are benefits upgrading to the UpTone power supply to the switch?




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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    I have normal AQVox (not SE). A good improvement over a normal switch. Although they indicate that their switched PSU is used (modified by them) I get better performance with linear PSU from Kenneth Lau.
    The problem with these guys is that they do not usually respond to the mail that is sent to them. This must be a novel way to treat the client born of some prestigious business school. As I am 62 years old and I am not for "so new ideas" after two unanswered mail, I decided not to make the change to the SE model.
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    Taking the lazy way, not reading.

    Is it being said there are benefits upgrading to the UpTone power supply to the switch?
    I have a spare HDPlex which I recently connected to power my network switch.
    Found out that it did make a subtle difference in the higher frequencies and softer transients.

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Just ordered the AQVox SE edition to see what this is all about as it sounds interesting, will see. Norman from AQVox was very responsive on the emails and reiterated 30 money back guarantee, not sure about return costs to ship to Germany from Washington State but hopefully I don't need to.

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    UltraFast - good to hear. I JUST received my SE, but have not had time to do some critical listening yet. I look forward to trading notes!

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by steinkrieg View Post
    UltraFast - good to hear. I JUST received my SE, but have not had time to do some critical listening yet. I look forward to trading notes!
    Yes, me as well. It supposedly shipped today, tracking available tomorrow.


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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    I use the Linear Solution switch. It was a noticeable improvement. NAS music even bettered my internal with it in place.

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    ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    Yes, me as well. It supposedly shipped today, tracking available tomorrow.


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    I ordered and received the switch and the top of the line ethernet cable, receiving this today here in a Seattle USA from Hamburg Germany in 7 days.

    I only had 30 minutes to hook up and listen and out the gate there are improvements in clarity, it’s late and I’m tired so more tomorrow when I run this through the paces.

    AQVox recommends 3 days minimum burn in, so I’ll let it do its thing today while running the Aurender N10 24/7.

    More to follow...

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Can you please post the pic showing the inside of the unit ? I'm interesting to learn the extent of their modifications.

    BTW, there is another - although cotly - alternative from Jcat:

    https://jcat.eu/product/m12-switch-gold/

    Their switch is based on some japaneese pro gear solution and already got some glowing reviews in the press.
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Ultrafast, I'm in Greenlake. 206-949-5739. Love to meet. Interested in your power conditioner. Thinking of installing a model 5 Equitech iso transfonsformer. Trying to clean noise.

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    ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    Can you please post the pic showing the inside of the unit ? I'm interesting to learn the extent of their modifications.

    BTW, there is another - although cotly - alternative from Jcat:

    https://jcat.eu/product/m12-switch-gold/

    Their switch is based on some japaneese pro gear solution and already got some glowing reviews in the press.
    Hi

    I don’t feel comfortable opening this up; gave you searched the web for pictures?

    ProGear I am sure is nice, but it like another $4K US, more then I willing to part with at this stage.

    Over the weekend I will update further. I have my set tracks that I listen to and will note the differences.


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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    Ultrafast, I'm in Greenlake. 206-949-5739. Love to meet. Interested in your power conditioner. Thinking of installing a model 5 Equitech iso transfonsformer. Trying to clean noise.
    Hello -

    Thanks for the note, I will shoot you a call but it may be a few days.


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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    Can you please post the pic showing the inside of the unit ? I'm interesting to learn the extent of their modifications.

    BTW, there is another - although cotly - alternative from Jcat:

    https://jcat.eu/product/m12-switch-gold/

    Their switch is based on some japaneese pro gear solution and already got some glowing reviews in the press.
    Not sure what kind of Ethernet connectors are on that switch. They aren't standard fiber connectors, and certainly aren't any flavor CATx connector.
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    Hi

    I don’t feel comfortable opening this up; gave you searched the web for pictures?

    ProGear I am sure is nice, but it like another $4K US, more then I willing to part with at this stage.

    Over the weekend I will update further. I have my set tracks that I listen to and will note the differences.


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    Found this picture of the inside online, Used Chrome to upload

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    If you need a network switch just a netgear giga switch and use an lps . But if the model you pick has a line voltage in you will need to open it. If you buy a model that has a external psu it’s better for most. An lps is a must have for it.
    Next go to emo systems website
    http://www.emosystems.com/
    http://www.emosystems.com/product/en-30/
    this is what I use in theory you only need one at the dac but you can also try it at the network input to the network switch.
    This adds a jump in a lower noise floor giving better dynamics and cleaner sound.
    I know there are many made for the purpose Audio sws and they may work as well
    but if cost is an issue this is under 400. for all of it

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    I have been looking at the EMO Systems isolators. For some reason the EN-70HD looks like the most promising model.
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    They all serve the purpose I picked that one for its ratings of low loss and In a metal case
    with price. This item all of us digital guys should have.your model has a 20db insert loss mine has 8 dB

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by Alrainbow View Post
    They all serve the purpose I picked that one for its ratings of low loss and In a metal case
    with price. This item all of us digital guys should have.your model has a 20db insert loss mine has 8 dB
    They both cost the same. I'm thinking of buying one. Then buy a generic 1m Ethernet cable from switch to isolater and then something like a AQ Vodka Ethernet cable.
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by Alrainbow View Post
    They all serve the purpose I picked that one for its ratings of low loss and In a metal case
    with price. This item all of us digital guys should have.your model has a 20db insert loss mine has 8 dB
    Nice article that mentions insertion loss https://www.belden.com/blog/digital-...on-loss-margin
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Al, I respect the heck out of you. I have tried a Netgear gig switch. Ok performance. I put a nice linear PS to it. It improved some. Was acceptable. I then purchased The Linear Solution switch. Big improvement. NAS now sounds better than internal stored music. Tidal is, such better but not quite as good as a NAS
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    The EMO isolator robs dynamics and muted everything. I was glad it was borrowed!

    A few guys dumped them on WBF.

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    At the performance level we are playing at, digital devices that are not purpose built for audio are not appearing to work as well as devices designed and testes for audio. So I am experiencing and reading. The Aquvox unit appears to have updated chokes and regulators in the unit, but, the PS? Looks questionable unless he designed some sort of amazing switching supply. Even my switch with a nice linear PS included in the purchase price of $650 has been bested by Paul Haynes best PS attached to my Linear Solution switch. I am not sure by how much. Ask Austin Pop or look up his thread. I am going on what the manufacturer told me.
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Power rules in digital audio and I don’t question anyone on what they hear.
    I have three buds who love it
    and for me I did not do any a/b yet but played it for ours.
    There are many circumstances involved in digital audio.
    And if I post it’s rhat I did it and own it and have tried it in many ways
    for anyone who don’t know me I am a tweaker. I never had an lps on my Audio network as I use a SAN built custom by me it’s a nas and network switch and router
    my audio has it’s own network alone. Having said this a while back I tried a giga switch on a lps feed. It was nice and very close to my SAN. If I removed the lps it was easy to hear the hash.
    one more thought as noise is removed from digital it’s more black. I’m doing so it may be perceived as less dynamic or even darker or not as loud at the same volume on your preamp. If you use a dB meter the sound volume is the same.
    The amp may even clip more now as you raise the volume. this is normal to be perceived of.
    I am sure now I’ll get bashed for this but it’s true and I know coz I have done it for myself and a few close friends

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Also where you use the isolater matters too.

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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    Hi

    I don’t feel comfortable opening this up; gave you searched the web for pictures?

    ProGear I am sure is nice, but it like another $4K US, more then I willing to part with at this stage.

    Over the weekend I will update further. I have my set tracks that I listen to and will note the differences.


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    So far, very good.

    Everything is more open, resolving and darker. I like the way this really improved things, especially knowing by a certain percentage my DAC is the weakest link in my system, and now it sounds like an upgrade. Very happy!

    More to follow...




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    ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Update:

    I did some high level research on the subject of Audiophile Ethernet Switches finding they do exist and one in particular, the AQVox SE Audiophile network switch.



    AQVox is a German company, based in Hamburg beginning in 2003 by a Susanne Candeias. AQVox claims to be first in creating an Audiophile grade switch. The AQVox web-site is what I would call simple, it may take you a minute to get around. Several emails were answered very quickly. Order delivery to Seattle from Germany was in about 7 calendar days. Overall a pleasant experience.

    AQVox modifies the D Link brand ethernet switch and says it can be added before or after your DAC or Router - it has 8 ports, (I may add a second one to support the other parts of network, using the original AQVox version over the SE saving a few hundred dollars.)

    AQVox indicates you will realize the following benefits of a ReClocker, Jitter Reduction, Signal Shaper, EMI Eliminator and a De-Noiser amongst other things. AQVox indicates they stand behind customer satisfaction and offer a 30 day return policy - I don’t know who pays return freight, but I like customer satisfaction, after all who doesn’t?

    I will not be returning the switch and also purchased a 1.5M AQVox Edge cable and plug jacks.



    Hookup is basic and they said only to use their power supply as everything is tuned in support of the switch, and avoid using modified power supplies, including ones they offer. Cable management seemed to take the most time. I repurposed an AudioQuest Vodka (not to be confused with the “AQ” in AQVox) between the Mac Mini and the router. I used the AQVox Edge 1.5M Ethernet cable from their audiophile grade switch to the PS Audio Direct Stream DAC with Bridge II. The Aurender N10 is the primary source and connected with the Nordost Heimdell Ethernet from the AQVox audiophile switch.

    I did this in two waves: switch installation replacing a Netgear GS108 with Audioquest Vodka and then five days later, I swapped the AQVox Edge and Audioquest Vodka Ethernet cables leaving the Nordost in place the whole time to the N10.

    Upon turning on the system, it was very clear, something good was here. Music noticeably opened up giving way to better resolution dynamics and a airy holographic soundstage with the liquid weight that I like - AQVox indicated it would take 3 days to burn in, and it was already sounding great!

    5 days have past as I knew listening would be sparse since family came to town but now have left. They had zero interest in Audio as my family, so once they left, I now had time to see what the heck I just did. The N10 and DAC were powered on allowing the switch to receive and pass signal.

    Days later, I changed out the Ethernet cables to see how the Mac Mini does and that AudioQuest Vodka Ethernet cable has done added something in sound that was not not there before, not huge but an improvement.

    I’m doing A/B comparisons by streaming both sources through the AQVox SE. If it were a competition, the Mac Mini now reduces the gap, however the Aurender still reins as champ. But comparing these really was about how both devices benefited from the switch. Both options provide me amazing results as mentioned prior.

    I have set recordings, and listen for specific sections at specific volumes to see how things compare, it truly sounds like I upgraded my DAC.

    While the N10 was Champ, If I was aware now what I just achieved I may have held back on the Aurender saving $6400, plus over double in cost after cabling and mechanical grounding and considered a better server than Mac Mini for much cheaper and put my money towards a MSB.

    Makes me think if I did not do this, and not have done that, I could have done a simpler approach not far off in cost running the Mac Mini or similar, AQVox SE Switch, a MSB Select, and Monos but that’s me, the addicted audiophile, but this is a hind-site statement, and I truly love my system, just second guess the cost of it all.

    I guess redundancy has its price but offers options in the event of down times.

    The recent switch upgrade is awesome, but my experience over he last year has built a steady foundation that includes addressing incoming power, distribution, electrical ground and conditioning, using Nordost QRT and Reference Series 2 power, interconnect and speaker, with use of the Ansuz C2 and C for power, DAC and Transport.

    Equipment floats on mechanical grounding by Ansuz Darkz DTC and Stillpoint Ultra SS, aside from amps and speakers.

    All equipment is subjective to the environment it is used in. My vote this switch is worth the purchase if your budget allows.


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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Excelent post. Thanks
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Something to chew on...

    I have one coming...

    https://www.audiostream.com/content/...thernet-filter


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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Something to chew on...

    I have one coming...

    https://www.audiostream.com/content/...thernet-filter


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    Is that device nearing availability to the public or is yours a sample similar to what Audiostream reviewed?
    It definitely appears compelling and simple.
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Quote Originally Posted by Rnrmf View Post
    Is that device nearing availability to the public or is yours a sample similar to what Audiostream reviewed?
    It definitely appears compelling and simple.
    Nearing completion and improvements from the review sample.


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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Mike, what does it do? Just the Ethernet.
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    Mike how is the DJM testing coming along???
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    Re: ETHERNET: Switches and Isolators

    bumping this thread back up. Any more reviews out there?

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    You know, all these things work to some degree. Sometimes with greater gain than other times. In certain situations it may be a step backwards. Not that I know cat poop, but my assumption is that they give the most bang to a setup with poor wiring and equipment not optimized for Ethernet. You might only get nebulous results if you have quality Ethernet cables installed with precision and are utilizing equipment that was designed by the manufacturer to already have galvanicaly isolated Ethernet. Mojo keeps telling me to send my unit back for the final upgrade and he is confident I won't need any additional USB or Ethernet devices in my chain. Just my 2 cents.

    I did not read the whole post again, but I have The Linear Soultion switch and it surpassed the gap of internal storage to NAS playback in my system. Tidal still lags both, but damn fine results with it.
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