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    Wish I had one on order....oh wait...

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    Great looking car! Still surprised that it took GM more than 50 years to come up with a mid engine Corvette. Very glad they did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    Still surprised that it took GM more than 50 years to come up with a mid engine Corvette.
    Really, how so ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    Really, how so ??
    Its not rocket science - the Italians have been doing it for years & developed some of the BEST sports cars in the world. You could never say that about any previous Corvette - except of course to Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob181 View Post
    Its not rocket science - the Italians have been doing it for years & developed some of the BEST sports cars in the world. You could never say that about any previous Corvette - except of course to Americans.
    Oh ye of little faith. You should not only drive a C7 Corvette, but do some research about what the world thinks of it.

    World class car.

    I've owned multiple Corvettes, and I would agree that before the C7 it was more of a muscle car, but times have changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob181 View Post
    Its not rocket science - the Italians have been doing it for years & developed some of the BEST sports cars in the world. You could never say that about any previous Corvette - except of course to Americans.
    1) I am an American

    2) thanks for letting us know how little you know about Corvette
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    I would say since the C5 a corvette was no longer just a muscle car and had always represented good value , C6 and C7 just made it real ..

    Comparing them to exotics costing ridiculous sums more and winning less races is so ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by MDP View Post
    Oh ye of little faith. You should not only drive a C7 Corvette, but do some research about what the world thinks of it.

    World class car.

    I've owned multiple Corvettes, and I would agree that before the C7 it was more of a muscle car, but times have changed.
    I have - the best quote I heard was - its the best sports car to come out of America - that's not saying much. Vs a Porsche 911 - no contest - yes there is a significant price difference - the Corvette does offer "so much for so little money compared to a Porsche" - which is the better car - the answer is Porsche & by the value in the difference in price - the defence rests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    I would say since the C5 a corvette was no longer just a muscle car and had always represented good value , C6 and C7 just made it real ..

    Comparing them to exotics costing ridiculous sums more and winning less races is so ...

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    Ok brakes on the ignorance Bob and try learn a bit about that ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob181 View Post
    I have - the best quote I heard was - its the best sports car to come out of America - that's not saying much. Vs a Porsche 911 - no contest - yes there is a significant price difference - the Corvette does offer "so much for so little money compared to a Porsche" - which is the better car - the answer is Porsche & by the value in the difference in price - the defence rests.
    Well, I’ve owned 4 Porsche’s, including a 2018 911 GTS. Compared to my C7 GS, the Corvette was a far better car, way more fun and it didn’t sound like a 2 stroke scooter when it took off either. Don’t get me wrong, the 911 GTS was great in many ways, but boring as hell compared to the C7 GS.

    As for the C8? That’s a whole different level and the C8 Z06 proves to be, quite possibly, the last true naturally aspirated Corvette that will be made as the future for Corvette is a separate brand and “E-Rays”. This last Z06 will be a collectors item and a great car I’m sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    Really, how so ??
    Because in the 60s, Zora Arkus-Duntov the “Father of the Corvette” wanted to build a mid-engine but GM corporate (the suits) did not want to invest in it. His parting words when retiring from GM in 1975 were to ask his successors for a mid-engine Corvette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob181 View Post
    Corvette Vs a Porsche 911 on a race track - you have to be joking - now that is funny
    While no longer 'the man' behind Corvette racing I can guarantee you it's no joke ..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    Because in the 60s, Zora Arkus-Duntov the “Father of the Corvette” wanted to build a mid-engine but GM corporate (the suits) did not want to invest in it. His parting words when retiring from GM in 1975 were to ask his successors for a mid-engine Corvette.

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    I'm fully aware of that, just wondering why 'you' seemed surprised ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob181 View Post
    Its not rocket science - the Italians have been doing it for years & developed some of the BEST sports cars in the world. You could never say that about any previous Corvette - except of course to Americans.
    Enzo famously said he "never seen a horse push a cart" the Italians were the last adopters in motorsport to to go mid and rear engine. It all came about when the British--by way of Cooper--brought the first rear-engine F1 car into prominence. One could argue Auto Union (nee Audi) did it first, but it wasn't called F1 back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    I'm fully aware of that, just wondering why 'you' seemed surprised ?
    Because the technical arguments for a better Corvette with a mid-engine were well established since the 60s.

    One could argue (shortsighted view of course) that if a car is selling fine despite its limitations, why bother? That’s probably what GM corporate thought. But with many older boomers having bought their last Corvette and perhaps a younger generation looking for a more technically advanced car, GM finally changed course.

    IMO, the mid-engine Corvettes are attracting new buyers that would have never consider Corvettes before. I am also sure that it is viewed by some old timers as sacrilegious but those guys probably already bought their last Corvette anyway.

    Change is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    Because the technical arguments for a better Corvette with a mid-engine were well established since the 60s.

    One could argue (shortsighted view of course) that if a car is selling fine despite its limitations, why bother? That’s probably what GM corporate thought. But with many older boomers having bought their last Corvette and perhaps a younger generation looking for a more technically advanced car, GM finally changed course.

    IMO, the mid-engine Corvettes are attracting new buyers that would have never consider Corvettes before. I am also sure that it is viewed by some old timers as sacrilegious but those guys probably already bought their last Corvette anyway.

    Change is good.
    exactly and thus, not a surprise !

    Remember at the time Zora was doing his best to push the mid-engine concept GM was quickly trying to distance itself from all things racing. As we now reflect back to that time it's only fitting that GM (Corvette) has acquired the rights to the name Zora Duntov for I suspect when the 'statement' C8 is produced it will bear his name and justifiably so !
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    Because in the 60s, Zora Arkus-Duntov the “Father of the Corvette” wanted to build a mid-engine but GM corporate (the suits) did not want to invest in it. His parting words when retiring from GM in 1975 were to ask his successors for a mid-engine Corvette.

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    They have that prototype to prove , even with a 4 rotor Wankel

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    Because the technical arguments for a better Corvette with a mid-engine were well established since the 60s.

    One could argue (shortsighted view of course) that if a car is selling fine despite its limitations, why bother? That’s probably what GM corporate thought. But with many older boomers having bought their last Corvette and perhaps a younger generation looking for a more technically advanced car, GM finally changed course.

    IMO, the mid-engine Corvettes are attracting new buyers that would have never consider Corvettes before. I am also sure that it is viewed by some old timers as sacrilegious but those guys probably already bought their last Corvette anyway.

    Change is good.
    IMO , a corvette is a front engine car , the collector is going to be the last front engine ZO6 , the Mid engine car thought to be a swan song was really influenced by Leman rules which favor mid Engine cars , Corvette want’s to keep continuing to dominate at Lemans, it also makes it also easier to transition to EV for the predicted class rules ...


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    Speaking of Le Mans and the WEC in general. This coming weekend the boys are at 'Spa' in Belgium and it will be special, Ollie Gavin and Antonio Garcia to pilot the C8R entry. This will be Gavin's last professional race, best of luck to the 'Captain', one of the best sports car drivers of all time !
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Ok brakes on the ignorance Bob and try learn a bit about that ...
    OK - please teach me - show me where Corvettes have been successful in racing outside the USA - Le Mans for example...

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    Well there you go , goggle corvette at le lemans and awaken so successful even Ferrari had to run , Domination was such the class died then they added weight and smaller inlet restrictors in an effort to run in the lower class against porsche, BMW and Ferrari ..

    This mid engine car is for the future ..!

    Ok so no Bathurst Wins ..

    BTW never owned or raced a corvette ( driven a few) only competed against them, i’m mostly Porsches the last 30 yrs, you learn to respect winning competition and win they did ..!


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    Not sure what Le Mans or "racing" has in common with a typical Corvette or a Porsche owner, driving his car in bumper to bumper traffic but all that HP and new designs sure do generate lots of excitement behind the keyboards...

    After owning all kinds of performance and exotic oriented cars from various countries over the decades, I have completely gotten it out of my system and drive a Jeep with the top open to get my automotive adrenaline fix these days.
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    Serge, I hear 'ya but there is a lot left of the, 'win on Sunday, sell on Monday' ideology and all the brand loyalty that goes with it. Just go to any major sports car race here in N America and you will find the legions gathered at both the Porsche and Corvette corrals.

    As for the driving excitement, you and I both live in this third world country of roads known as 'Pennsytucky' !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    Serge, I hear 'ya but there is a lot left of the, 'win on Sunday, sell on Monday' ideology and all the brand loyalty that goes with it. Just go to any major sports car race here in N America and you will find the legions gathered at both the Porsche and Corvette corrals.

    As for the driving excitement, you and I both live in this third world country of roads known as 'Pennsytucky' !

    Oh I know the culture well. It wasn't that long ago that I was still driving up to cars and coffee with my stallions that would come and go... Some guys would buy a Ferrari and trade it for another before it was time to wash it for the first time... I'm not kidding!

    The cars are so capable and so mind blowing in terms of technology and progress that it is hard not to be impressed. Just not sure what actual use they have unless one takes them to the track where they shine. I try to visit my parents in Naples FL every year and all I can say is the "traffic" during the season is also mind blowing.... Not much use for a Z06 in Florida the way I see it.

    The Pennsytucky pot holes are indeed impressive. Amazing how much taxes we pay and how large the potholes still get. They bother me not one bit with my 33" tires of the Jeep though. It just swallows them up like they are not even there.... Quite a difference from the damaged rims and tires of the sports cars and exotics... yikes!
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    No use for a ZO6 in fla ...

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    You should come to N Texas then.

    I drive 80-90 mph everyday for my 20 mile trip to the office. Very seldom is that not the case. No - not rush hour, but not in the middle of the night either. When my wife comes to visit (we live in Oregon) she will go out and hit 130 easy - but she's crazy . . . .



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    I think both C7 ZO6 and C8 ZO6 may become collectible, for different reasons.

    I have bought 2020 Audi R8 V10 (5.2L NA engine, reving up to 8800rpm) with the intention to keep it indefinately. I will probably get the new, budget Tesla in 2024 as a daily and will be all set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    I think both C7 ZO6 and C8 ZO6 may become collectible, for different reasons.

    I have bought 2020 Audi R8 V10 (5.2L NA engine, reving up to 8800rpm) with the intention to keep it indefinately. I will probably get the new, budget Tesla in 2024 as a daily and will be all set.
    Nice car. I enjoyed my R8 V10 with a gated manual. Manual cars will pull ahead in collectibility in general
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    As for comparisons to Porsche 911s let’s remember there are a variety of 911 models. If we stick to the base 911, I would expect the C8 Z06 to be a FAR better car on the road and track. As you go up the chain with the Porsche 911 ladder, that conclusion would no doubt change from a performance on the track standpoint but the value side of the equation will almost no doubt favor the Z06.

    A base 911 is not a match for the C7 GrandSport on the track. (I know first hand)
    I would expect the base C8 to trouble even a Turbo 911 and perhaps the higher models. The reported/expected performance of the C8 Z06 may very well put it in Gt3/GT2 land at half the cost. Again, performance and value.

    But we need to actually see the new Z06 on the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the professor View Post
    You should come to N Texas then.

    I drive 80-90 mph everyday for my 20 mile trip to the office. Very seldom is that not the case. No - not rush hour, but not in the middle of the night either. When my wife comes to visit (we live in Oregon) she will go out and hit 130 easy - but she's crazy . . . .
    I was responding to Serge ,who said so ...!

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    Corvette needs an extreme track focused version of the Z06 à la rennsport like Porsche's RS versions of the GT2/GT3. The C8 could stand to loose 400+ lbs, the demand for such a car would surprise you (maybe not). Demand for RS versions over the standard GT3 are like 2:1 with a stiff upcharge for the privilege.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Corvette want’s to keep continuing to dominate at Lemans...
    I don’t see it unless Lemans is not the same as 24 hours of Le Mans race.





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    That seems a steal. 2022 992 GT3 would cost twice as much.

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    That is basicly Audi R8 V10 performance (midengine / 620hp / 8800 redline / 5.2L NA engine / magnetic ride / carbon brakes) minus the AWD drive, for 120k less. Which makes it a screeming deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctopus View Post
    Nice car. I enjoyed my R8 V10 with a gated manual. Manual cars will pull ahead in collectibility in general
    I remember your gated R8. Now the manual R8 command +30% premium. Recently, a low milage (10k miles) mint condition 2009 Audi R8 V10 6MT sold at an auction on BringaTrailer.com for ... $177k. That is over its original MSRP. Not bad, for a car that is only 12 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    I don’t see it unless Lemans is not the same as 24 hours of Le Mans race.




    you're referencing the wrong Class, Team Corvette is in GTE-Pro
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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    I don’t see it unless Lemans is not the same as 24 hours of Le Mans race.

    Huh? Its obvious you don't follow motorsport much

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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    Huh? Its obvious you don't follow motorsport much

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    I don’t actually. Is that bad? Corvette ZO6 ......... I do follow NFL if that means anything to you.

    Thanks for the link BTW. Now I know.

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    Yep class winners at Le Mans - not outright winners - the only way you would not that is if you are a dedicated Corvette Racing follower...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob181 View Post
    Yep class winners at Le Mans - not outright winners - the only way you would not that is if you are a dedicated Corvette Racing follower...
    No. Anyone that follows endurance racing and esp Le Mans knows its not simply a winner takes all event there are several races on the same track over the same 24 hrs. for other classes. When was the last time a production-based car that wasn't a prototype took the outright win, do you know? and you cant use google, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    No. Anyone that follows endurance racing and esp Le Mans knows its not simply a winner takes all event there are several races on the same track over the same 24 hrs. for other classes. When was the last time a production-based car that wasn't a prototype took the outright win, do you know? and you cant use google, etc.
    Oh please - lets just agree to disagree - I have watched many races with individual classes & I couldn't tell what brand won what class last year - other than outright. I note the Corvette's last win was in 2015 in the GTE Pro class - the only person who would know that without Google would be a dedicated - rusted on Corvette fan...

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    Ford GT. Don’t remember the year. Maybe 1966-9??

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    Quote Originally Posted by crwilli View Post
    Ford GT. Don’t remember the year. Maybe 1966-9??

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    Yep - from Wikipedia - 1966 to 1969 - 4 years straight a sensational race car in its time - BUT - with 2 different teams - Shelby the first 2 years - JW Automotive Engineering the second 2 years (whoever they are). Made a movie about this - I haven't watched it yet...

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    Wow! I did watch the movie and was pretty sure it was the Shelby but totally guessed on the years. Maybe I should buy a lottery ticket today?
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