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    My RoomPlay Reference sound room

    Small Green Computer; gigaFoil 4 Ethernet filter w/ Keces PS-3; Sonore ultraRendu; MBP (3) - stripped down for music only; AQ Diamond USBs; PS Audio LanRover; ISO REGEN w/short Curious USB links; Berkeley Alpha USB; Audioquest Diamond ethernet; Audioquest Diamond AES - 3M; Schiit Yggdrasil - fully updated; Ayre Codex - updated; Topping D-90; Pass Labs INT-60 integrated amplifier; Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE-2 preamplifier, Quicksilver Mono 120 amps w/Tung-Sol KT150s; Wyred 4 Sound STP-750E Mk II amplifier w/Kimber TCX wiring & WBT binding posts; Quicksilver Mid Mono amplifiers w/Gold Lion KT77s, Joseph Audio Perspective 2 Graphenes; Symposium Speaker Platforms; REL S-812 subwoofers; Duelund DCA12GA speaker cables; AV Room Service EVPs, Stein Music Harmonizers, Duelund DCA16GA & 20GA ICs; Shunyata 6000S/V2; Tripp Lite PCs; Wyred 4 Sound power cords; AudioDharma cable cooker; dedicated custom room; various GIK & ASC room treatments; etc.

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    Re: My RoomPlay Reference sound room

    Looks great Jim. A much simpler setup compared to your prior room. I’m sure the sound is wonderful. Would be interested to hear your thoughts on how this room sounds compared to your previous setup with the Tannoys.
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    Re: My RoomPlay Reference sound room

    Very nice Jim. The option to get speakers that far into the room is a great starting point for setting up your system for amazing sound.
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    Re: My RoomPlay Reference sound room

    nice room -- very clean lines and elegant!! ...btw: i see in your current signature "Duelund USB" -- first time i am seeing this cable... is that a DIY cable?
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    Re: My RoomPlay Reference sound room

    Terrific setup. I bet it sounds as good as it looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith View Post
    Beautiful.
    It´s obvious that you know how important is the contact with the speakers and the floor. Maybe it is the most important point in a system?!


    Thanks for sharing!

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    Re: My RoomPlay Reference sound room

    Sheesh!!!

    Triple post...
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    Sorry - double post.
    Small Green Computer; gigaFoil 4 Ethernet filter w/ Keces PS-3; Sonore ultraRendu; MBP (3) - stripped down for music only; AQ Diamond USBs; PS Audio LanRover; ISO REGEN w/short Curious USB links; Berkeley Alpha USB; Audioquest Diamond ethernet; Audioquest Diamond AES - 3M; Schiit Yggdrasil - fully updated; Ayre Codex - updated; Topping D-90; Pass Labs INT-60 integrated amplifier; Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE-2 preamplifier, Quicksilver Mono 120 amps w/Tung-Sol KT150s; Wyred 4 Sound STP-750E Mk II amplifier w/Kimber TCX wiring & WBT binding posts; Quicksilver Mid Mono amplifiers w/Gold Lion KT77s, Joseph Audio Perspective 2 Graphenes; Symposium Speaker Platforms; REL S-812 subwoofers; Duelund DCA12GA speaker cables; AV Room Service EVPs, Stein Music Harmonizers, Duelund DCA16GA & 20GA ICs; Shunyata 6000S/V2; Tripp Lite PCs; Wyred 4 Sound power cords; AudioDharma cable cooker; dedicated custom room; various GIK & ASC room treatments; etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aKnyght View Post
    nice room -- very clean lines and elegant!! ...btw: i see in your current signature "Duelund USB" -- first time i am seeing this cable... is that a DIY cable?
    I get my Duelund products from Parts Connexion in Canada.

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    Re: My RoomPlay Reference sound room

    Congrats on the room Jim. Great to see the attention paid to room acoustics.

    Out of interest, what was the biggest single challenge you had to overcome to get great sound from the room?
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    Re: My RoomPlay Reference sound room

    Congratulations!! Beautiful room and equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi_1282001 View Post
    Congrats on the room Jim. Great to see the attention paid to room acoustics.

    Out of interest, what was the biggest single biggest challenge you had to overcome to get great sound from the room?
    Thanks!

    I have used this room for seven years for my RoomPlay Reference sessions for clients.

    RoomPlay Reference | Get Better Sound

    Most every visitor said it was the best sound - the most involving musically - that they ever heard.

    The point of this room was - and still is - to help people understand more about the impact from a better set-up, and how they can get there without having to purchase more components. Not that purchasing components is a bad thing - quite the contrary, IMO. It's just that better components will do even more when the acoustic wave-launch into the room at the listening seat is received properly.

    I began to worry that folks might think, "Of course it's great, look at his equipment!" So I recently sold the entire system, and replaced it with one that cost less than the power cords in the previous system.

    The sound here now is just as musically involving. Some aspects are actually better, some not so much.

    Getting good sound from systems is what I do (maybe a thousand clients over the years), and this one was not so different.

    Sorry for the sales pitch! As I started to reply I might have gotten a bit carried away...
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    Re: My RoomPlay Reference sound room

    Tannoys out Jim ...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Tannoys out Jim ...?
    Yep...
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    All of the Joseph Audio speakers I have experienced sounded amazing. So I am not surprised that this is the route you chose.I can only imagine how incredible they sound in your room when applying all of your expertise.Enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith View Post

    ..Getting good sound from systems is what I do (maybe a thousand clients over the years), and this one was not so different.
    It wasn't only clients before your later retail and RoomPlay days. I remember the first time we met - you walked into Sound Components on the Circle and set up the MG-IIs. To this day, that experience over 40 years ago remains with me, illustrating what a professional from a high end audio manufacturer should be.

    The room looks fantastic and surely sounds even better. Congratulations.

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    Re: My RoomPlay Reference sound room

    Wait, no keyless entry? And where is the shrine??


    Looking good Jim, enjoy some tunes and this 4th

    cheers,

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    Very nice room and setup Jim! You certainly simplified things in your dedicated room. Someday soon I need to come up to Atlanta for a session.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaphacts View Post
    It wasn't only clients before your later retail and RoomPlay days. I remember the first time we met - you walked into Sound Components on the Circle and set up the MG-IIs. To this day, that experience over 40 years ago remains with me, illustrating what a professional from a high end audio manufacturer should be.

    The room looks fantastic and surely sounds even better. Congratulations.
    I remember that store well , were you with Peter when they moved to US1 ...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    I remember that store well , were you with Peter when they moved to US1 ...!
    I left in the early 80's and worked with Christopher Hansen until I came back to open the Ft Lauderdale Sound Components store in 1984.

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    Hi Jim...great looking setup and room. Are the components behind the GIK diffuser/absorption panels? If so was it designed that way to minimize vibrations to the components?
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    Hi Jim...great looking setup and room. Are the components behind the GIK diffuser/absorption panels? If so was it designed that way to minimize vibrations to the components?
    Paul



    Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith View Post
    Thanks!

    I have used this room for seven years for my RoomPlay Reference sessions for clients.

    RoomPlay Reference | Get Better Sound

    Most every visitor said it was the best sound - the most involving musically - that they ever heard.

    The point of this room was - and still is - to help people understand more about the impact from a better set-up, and how they can get there without having to purchase more components. Not that purchasing components is a bad thing - quite the contrary, IMO. It's just that better components will do even more when the acoustic wave-launch into the room at the listening seat is received properly.

    I began to worry that folks might think, "Of course it's great, look at his equipment!" So I recently sold the entire system, and replaced it with one that cost less than the power cords in the previous system.

    The sound here now is just as musically involving. Some aspects are actually better, some not so much.

    Getting good sound from systems is what I do (maybe a thousand clients over the years), and this one was not so different.

    Sorry for the sales pitch! As I started to reply I might have gotten a bit carried away...
    I’ve been in the room after Jim’s overhaul and it is as good as he describes. The Joseph audios were amazing (and tiny compared to the tannoys).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiophilehi View Post
    Hi Jim...great looking setup and room. Are the components behind the GIK diffuser/absorption panels? If so was it designed that way to minimize vibrations to the components?
    It's complicated....

    The Pass INT-60 amp and rack is behind the GIKs.

    It's all about massively unlocking your music with 4 basic steps.

    There is also a 55" flat screen TV behind the GIKs.

    I've run into so many musically uninvolving systems that had very good components, I decided that it was time to help their owners begin to get a bit of what they paid for.

    The first listening session is with the GIKs moved out of the way, with the Josephs on either side of the rack, about 15" away from the front wall. About 80% of high end systems seem to be ok with a similar set-up, sadly missing WAY over half of the potential musical impact from the system, NO MATTER HOW MUCH IT MAY HAVE COST...

    Step One is how to make a simple upgrade to the system.

    Step Two is a greater upgrade, and can also be done simply, with no need to buy costly gear to get there.

    Step Three is an even greater upgrade, and can also be done simply, with no need to buy costly gear to get there.

    Step Four includes the GIKs, or a similar concept. With each of the steps, the differences are not subtle - in fact, to every listener so far, they are astounding.

    Once the system is dialed-in appropriately (and steps two & three are all that is needed in many instances, especially if the room is used for other purposes than a dedicated music room), when there is an interest in a new component, the difference - good, bad or otherwise - is vastly easier to hear and appreciate.

    When the room has multiple uses, there is a simple technique to be certain all is well on the domestic front. As I have said for years, musical harmony will be lost if there is no domestic harmony...

    FWIW - Mike is the only dealer that I have worked with who recognizes this issue, and he tries to do what he can to overcome it.
    Small Green Computer; gigaFoil 4 Ethernet filter w/ Keces PS-3; Sonore ultraRendu; MBP (3) - stripped down for music only; AQ Diamond USBs; PS Audio LanRover; ISO REGEN w/short Curious USB links; Berkeley Alpha USB; Audioquest Diamond ethernet; Audioquest Diamond AES - 3M; Schiit Yggdrasil - fully updated; Ayre Codex - updated; Topping D-90; Pass Labs INT-60 integrated amplifier; Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE-2 preamplifier, Quicksilver Mono 120 amps w/Tung-Sol KT150s; Wyred 4 Sound STP-750E Mk II amplifier w/Kimber TCX wiring & WBT binding posts; Quicksilver Mid Mono amplifiers w/Gold Lion KT77s, Joseph Audio Perspective 2 Graphenes; Symposium Speaker Platforms; REL S-812 subwoofers; Duelund DCA12GA speaker cables; AV Room Service EVPs, Stein Music Harmonizers, Duelund DCA16GA & 20GA ICs; Shunyata 6000S/V2; Tripp Lite PCs; Wyred 4 Sound power cords; AudioDharma cable cooker; dedicated custom room; various GIK & ASC room treatments; etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith View Post
    It's complicated....

    The Pass INT-60 amp and rack is behind the GIKs.

    It's all about massively unlocking your music with 4 basic steps.

    There is also a 55" flat screen TV behind the GIKs.

    I've run into so many musically uninvolving systems that had very good components, I decided that it was time to help their owners begin to get a bit of what they paid for.

    The first listening session is with the GIKs moved out of the way, with the Josephs on either side of the rack, about 15" away from the front wall. About 80% of high end systems seem to be ok with a similar set-up, sadly missing WAY over half of the potential musical impact from the system, NO MATTER HOW MUCH IT MAY HAVE COST...

    Step One is how to make a simple upgrade to the system.

    Step Two is a greater upgrade, and can also be done simply, with no need to buy costly gear to get there.

    Step Three is an even greater upgrade, and can also be done simply, with no need to buy costly gear to get there.

    Step Four includes the GIKs, or a similar concept. With each of the steps, the differences are not subtle - in fact, to every listener so far, they are astounding.

    Once the system is dialed-in appropriately (and steps two & three are all that is needed in many instances, especially if the room is used for other purposes than a dedicated music room), when there is an interest in a new component, the difference - good, bad or otherwise - is vastly easier to hear and appreciate.

    When the room has multiple uses, there is a simple technique to be certain all is well on the domestic front. As I have said for years, musical harmony will be lost if there is no domestic harmony...

    FWIW - Mike is the only dealer that I have worked with who recognizes this issue, and he tries to do what he can to overcome it.
    Thanks Jim.....I’ve been watching and reading the Get Better Sound DVD’s and book. It’s a great read and watch. I’m learning a lot so far.

    The reason I asked if the equipment is behind the Gik’s is because I too was thinking about doing the same. The only difference is with a new listening room just about to start construction I have the luxury of having a small storage space behind the wall where the speakers will be placed. I plan to have my equipment flush mounted to the wall with only the face showing only going up about 30 inches High and across with my amps on stands behind the speakers. Then place room treatment in front like you have pictured after I follow your 3 step process.
    Paul



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