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Mark, glad you rolling forward, a lot of work as you know.
There’s no way I can make Munich, golden handcuffs wins again [emoji22]
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Mark, glad you rolling forward, a lot of work as you know.
There’s no way I can make Munich, golden handcuffs wins again [emoji22]
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"There’s no way I can make Munich, golden handcuffs wins again
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Sorry to hear that but do understand! Wouldn't mind having a pair of those but this time around, glad I don't!
Sorry to hear that but do understand! Wouldn't mind having a pair of those but this time around, glad I don't!
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Haven't had time to update exhaustive gear list far down but the signature is now updated with the highlights....
Well, the winds of change have blown through my life
in 2018-early. 2019, a welcome and new path in life has now emerged, so many changes have occurred. The house pictured previously has been sold and I will be in this rental house for a couple years while I get back to more music and plan the next steps...
Big news besides all that is the arrival several weeks ago of a Legacy Audio i.V4 ULTRA amp.....fantastic is what I'm experiencing.
The overbuilt quality and finest Class A/B sound, but from a ICEedge digital amp, set of 4(ch) dedicated monoblocks housed in 1 chassis,
astounds me even after a couple months,...they are well worth checking out!
Further the arrival of my dream speaker, the Legacy VALOR early in June means the multiple years I've waited and wanted this speaker are now over (!).....
Words don't suffice to describe how much I am enjoying and amazed by these speakers. Bill and the Legacy team have done it again to bring amazing
and real music into my home on an entirely more impressive level!
This version of the VALOR is a further build to what is listed on the website. Instead of only 2 required external channels of amplification, Bill suggested and I gladly agreed to requiring 4 external amp channels to drive the mids and treble with their own dedicated amp channels, takes another set of speaker cables and another XLR pair (thank goodness of loaners from friends!) however the benefits of this choice are already noticeable...the production / default Valor is incredible (heard it 6 times over the years), this version gives me a number of options for amping midbass, mids and highs in the future however the way they sound is fantastic to my ears.
Well, the winds of change have blown through my life
in 2018-early. 2019, a welcome and new path in life has now emerged, so many changes have occurred. The house pictured previously has been sold and I will be in this rental house for a couple years while I get back to more music and plan the next steps...Big news besides all that is the arrival several weeks ago of a Legacy Audio i.V4 ULTRA amp.....fantastic is what I'm experiencing.
The overbuilt quality and finest Class A/B sound, but from a ICEedge digital amp, set of 4(ch) dedicated monoblocks housed in 1 chassis,
astounds me even after a couple months,...they are well worth checking out!
Further the arrival of my dream speaker, the Legacy VALOR early in June means the multiple years I've waited and wanted this speaker are now over (!).....
Words don't suffice to describe how much I am enjoying and amazed by these speakers. Bill and the Legacy team have done it again to bring amazing
and real music into my home on an entirely more impressive level!
This version of the VALOR is a further build to what is listed on the website. Instead of only 2 required external channels of amplification, Bill suggested and I gladly agreed to requiring 4 external amp channels to drive the mids and treble with their own dedicated amp channels, takes another set of speaker cables and another XLR pair (thank goodness of loaners from friends!) however the benefits of this choice are already noticeable...the production / default Valor is incredible (heard it 6 times over the years), this version gives me a number of options for amping midbass, mids and highs in the future however the way they sound is fantastic to my ears.
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Love the passion, lots of trick stuff going on there!
I look forward to hearing those one day.
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Beautiful setup! Can you compare the sound of the Valor's with your prior Legacy Audio setup?
Mark, thats a super, super system you had put together. Wonder, if ever, in my lifetime, would I be able to hear them (or visit Mike's place). Still, the look and "feel" made me realised you must have a through thought thru process, weighing the pros and cons of each super gears you have to come to this final destination. Congrats! Although mine is way much humbler, I do understand the immense joy and pleasure one can derive, sans comparison, can savour and I looked forward to enjoying mine in the coming weeks (thru August). Once again, congratulations!
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Thank you all, very much appreciate the great comments! I have always found Legacy to put out very musical and impressive, real renditions of the music that I love
and each speaker the line I've had since 2005-2006 has consistently been ever more innovative, better sounding, disappeared completely and performed WAY above
it's price point. Hearing so many great speakers in the last few years and particularly hitting the 2 Munich shows with a vengeance hearing 100s of speakers including
the best horns and alternative designs out there has left me with the direct experience of just how good these are (for my tastes, listening prefs and objectives) compared
to anything I heard regardless of price.
I also appreciate getting such comments from people with the caliber of systems that I've seen in your sigs, posts, etc...thank you again!
I have not updated the detailed system components list in some time and I will eventually do so as there have been a number of key adds and changes in
the system. Right now I've been just focusing on work and listening to as much music as I possibly can,...these new speakers are extremely hard to walk
away from but I get to hear them 'all around the house' where I do most of my listening. Amazing thing to me is the full sound profile I get no matter where I am,
around the corner, in the kitchen, upstairs, etc...these are my ideal speaker delivering great sound throughout the entire house and all aspects of life.
Valor versus my last system: Wow, that's a tough one as the last custom setup really floored me in terms of how it performed. Bass was outstanding and
plumbed the depths with that system, imaging was great and even better than I'd hoped for, musical realism in ample measure, so many things were simply 'right'
and beyond my expectations or the combo's price point. If this opportunity to own these had not crossed my path, I would still be extremely happy with what I had.
What Valor brings starting with comparable bass (but tighter, more accurate and completely integrated flawlessly) is the best midbass, midrange and treble ranges
performance I've ever had in any system I've owned. The total immersion factor that Valor delivers is also beyond (IMHO) compare. The soundstage is huge in all
dimensions, as far as the original recording intended. With Stereo Unfold also engaged, the best rendering of spatial info in so many discs are more accurately
conveyed than I've ever heard in my systems before (it was extremely good but this is on an entirely different level...).
Tonal accuracy, correct "color" of the instrument's material, finish, etc.. ability to render full ensembles and not lose the specific instrument and/or voice details,
all well beyond anything I've ever owned.
Detail, inner detail, many other aspects at a level I'd only hoped I'd some day here in my home.
I don't want to go too far here and succumb to audiophile hyperbole. I will tell you they are IMHO a great, very unique speaker and I am loving them.
They crossed 500 hours this morning "and are telling me" I've got an entire collection to go back and listen again, learn what's there on the discs
and appreciate in new ways.
and each speaker the line I've had since 2005-2006 has consistently been ever more innovative, better sounding, disappeared completely and performed WAY above
it's price point. Hearing so many great speakers in the last few years and particularly hitting the 2 Munich shows with a vengeance hearing 100s of speakers including
the best horns and alternative designs out there has left me with the direct experience of just how good these are (for my tastes, listening prefs and objectives) compared
to anything I heard regardless of price.
I also appreciate getting such comments from people with the caliber of systems that I've seen in your sigs, posts, etc...thank you again!
I have not updated the detailed system components list in some time and I will eventually do so as there have been a number of key adds and changes in
the system. Right now I've been just focusing on work and listening to as much music as I possibly can,...these new speakers are extremely hard to walk
away from but I get to hear them 'all around the house' where I do most of my listening. Amazing thing to me is the full sound profile I get no matter where I am,
around the corner, in the kitchen, upstairs, etc...these are my ideal speaker delivering great sound throughout the entire house and all aspects of life.
Valor versus my last system: Wow, that's a tough one as the last custom setup really floored me in terms of how it performed. Bass was outstanding and
plumbed the depths with that system, imaging was great and even better than I'd hoped for, musical realism in ample measure, so many things were simply 'right'
and beyond my expectations or the combo's price point. If this opportunity to own these had not crossed my path, I would still be extremely happy with what I had.
What Valor brings starting with comparable bass (but tighter, more accurate and completely integrated flawlessly) is the best midbass, midrange and treble ranges
performance I've ever had in any system I've owned. The total immersion factor that Valor delivers is also beyond (IMHO) compare. The soundstage is huge in all
dimensions, as far as the original recording intended. With Stereo Unfold also engaged, the best rendering of spatial info in so many discs are more accurately
conveyed than I've ever heard in my systems before (it was extremely good but this is on an entirely different level...).
Tonal accuracy, correct "color" of the instrument's material, finish, etc.. ability to render full ensembles and not lose the specific instrument and/or voice details,
all well beyond anything I've ever owned.
Detail, inner detail, many other aspects at a level I'd only hoped I'd some day here in my home.
I don't want to go too far here and succumb to audiophile hyperbole. I will tell you they are IMHO a great, very unique speaker and I am loving them.
They crossed 500 hours this morning "and are telling me" I've got an entire collection to go back and listen again, learn what's there on the discs
and appreciate in new ways.
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Thank you!
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UPDATED System Component List:
Legacy Audio Valor (4ch external amp required, 2250W internal amplification)
Legacy Audio i.V4 ULTRA 4ch amp
Legacy Wavelet DAC/Preamp/Boehmer Room Correction and (SUT) Stereo Un-flold Algorithms
HDPLEX 200-Watt dual-rail LPSU
Revelation Audio Labs Passage Reference Cryosilver DC Umbilical 3-meter
Ghent Audio JSSG360 Star-Quad DC Umbilical
Esoteric Audio P-02 Dual-Mono Transport
Esoteric Audio D-02 Dual-Mono DAC
Cybershaft UPOCXO-01-OP21 Type2 OP21A Curated OCXO 10 MHz Master Clock
Stillpoints Ultra SS with Ultra Bases (4) under Cybershaft UPOCXO-01-OP21
SHUNYATA TRITON v3 with chassis grounding system and CGS cables
SHUNYATA TYPHON QR
Signal Grounding System and SGS cables
Elrod Systems Statement Gold Speaker Cables 9-foot (2 pair)
Elrod Systems Statement Gold XLR 6-foot (1 pair)
Elrod Systems Statement Gold XLR 4-meter (1 pair)
Shunyata SIGMA XLR 2-meter
Shunyata SIGMA AES/EBU XLR 110-ohm 2-meter (2)
Shunyata SIGMA CLOCK-50 50-ohm BNC 2-meter (2)
Shunyata Anaconda Zitron XLR 6-meter
Elrod Systems DIAMOND XLR 6-foot with Enhanced Ground Plane XLR (1 pair)
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Next-Gen Statement Gold 10-foot 15-amp w/ Furutech FI-50 NCF (2)
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Statement Gold PC, 10-foot, 15-Amp w/Furutech FI-50 NCF
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Statement Gold PC, 9-foot, 15-Amp w/Furutech FI-50 NCF (2)
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Statement Gold PC, 10-foot, 20-Amp w/Furutech FI-50 NCF
Elrod Systems Statement Gold 15-amp 10-foot PC w/Oyaide M1F1
Elrod Systems Statement Gold 15-amp 6-foot PC w/Eyed M1F1
Shunyata SIGMA NR 15-amp v2, testing and swapping
Shunyata. Alpha NR 15-amp PC v2 (2), testing and swapping
Avatar Acoustics Afterburner8 Duplex Outlets (5)
Adona Corporation AV45CS4 and AV45CS1 (multiple)
Composite Audio CF-2010 Platforms (multiple)
Harmonic Resolution Systems DPX Large Damping Plates (7)
Harmonic Resolution Systems DPX Medium Damping Plates (4)
B.M.C. PureUSB1 5-meter
Computer Audio/Rip Playback: Apple MacBook Pro 15" 2019, 6-core i9, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, Audirvana+ v3, iTunes, REW Audio Analyzer for MacOS, dbPowerAmp, DVD Audio Extractor
Legacy Audio Valor (4ch external amp required, 2250W internal amplification)
Legacy Audio i.V4 ULTRA 4ch amp
Legacy Wavelet DAC/Preamp/Boehmer Room Correction and (SUT) Stereo Un-flold Algorithms
HDPLEX 200-Watt dual-rail LPSU
Revelation Audio Labs Passage Reference Cryosilver DC Umbilical 3-meter
Ghent Audio JSSG360 Star-Quad DC Umbilical
Esoteric Audio P-02 Dual-Mono Transport
Esoteric Audio D-02 Dual-Mono DAC
Cybershaft UPOCXO-01-OP21 Type2 OP21A Curated OCXO 10 MHz Master Clock
Stillpoints Ultra SS with Ultra Bases (4) under Cybershaft UPOCXO-01-OP21
SHUNYATA TRITON v3 with chassis grounding system and CGS cables
SHUNYATA TYPHON QR
Signal Grounding System and SGS cables
Elrod Systems Statement Gold Speaker Cables 9-foot (2 pair)
Elrod Systems Statement Gold XLR 6-foot (1 pair)
Elrod Systems Statement Gold XLR 4-meter (1 pair)
Shunyata SIGMA XLR 2-meter
Shunyata SIGMA AES/EBU XLR 110-ohm 2-meter (2)
Shunyata SIGMA CLOCK-50 50-ohm BNC 2-meter (2)
Shunyata Anaconda Zitron XLR 6-meter
Elrod Systems DIAMOND XLR 6-foot with Enhanced Ground Plane XLR (1 pair)
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Next-Gen Statement Gold 10-foot 15-amp w/ Furutech FI-50 NCF (2)
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Statement Gold PC, 10-foot, 15-Amp w/Furutech FI-50 NCF
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Statement Gold PC, 9-foot, 15-Amp w/Furutech FI-50 NCF (2)
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Statement Gold PC, 10-foot, 20-Amp w/Furutech FI-50 NCF
Elrod Systems Statement Gold 15-amp 10-foot PC w/Oyaide M1F1
Elrod Systems Statement Gold 15-amp 6-foot PC w/Eyed M1F1
Shunyata SIGMA NR 15-amp v2, testing and swapping
Shunyata. Alpha NR 15-amp PC v2 (2), testing and swapping
Avatar Acoustics Afterburner8 Duplex Outlets (5)
Adona Corporation AV45CS4 and AV45CS1 (multiple)
Composite Audio CF-2010 Platforms (multiple)
Harmonic Resolution Systems DPX Large Damping Plates (7)
Harmonic Resolution Systems DPX Medium Damping Plates (4)
B.M.C. PureUSB1 5-meter
Computer Audio/Rip Playback: Apple MacBook Pro 15" 2019, 6-core i9, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, Audirvana+ v3, iTunes, REW Audio Analyzer for MacOS, dbPowerAmp, DVD Audio Extractor
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A few new pictures,...replaced traditional framed art with 14 GSM Pro canvas with Eco Water Giclee inks; just the right amount of light diffusion unlike
traditional room treatments, even those with moderate NRC values; if any absorption is needed the frame-backs allow me to insert 1" thick slices of
Ecocore that I can cut to size and experiment one at a time.....and the fractal-generated art is cool too.
traditional room treatments, even those with moderate NRC values; if any absorption is needed the frame-backs allow me to insert 1" thick slices of
Ecocore that I can cut to size and experiment one at a time.....and the fractal-generated art is cool too.
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Thank you! I am really enjoying them every day!
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Thank you guys!
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System still sounds amazing, has opened up even more in the months since getting everything just right and I believe these speakers have gone through successive layers
of break where they came out and showed even more layering and detail plus texture in the music and the soundstage well into the 500-1000 hour point. Definitely loving them/the system...
Updated the gear list....
Legacy Audio Valor (4ch external amp required, 2250W internal amplification)
Legacy Audio i.V4 ULTRA 4ch amp
Legacy Wavelet DAC/Preamp/Boehmer Room Correction and (SUT) Stereo Un-fold Algorithms
HDPLEX 200-Watt dual-rail LPSU
Revelation Audio Labs Passage Reference Cryo-silver DC Umbilical 3-meter
Ghent Audio JSSG360 Star-Quad DC Umbilical
Esoteric Audio P-02 Dual-Mono Transport
Esoteric Audio D-02 Dual-Mono DAC
Cybershaft UPOCXO-01-OP21 Type2 OP21A Curated OCXO 10 MHz Master Clock
Stillpoints Ultra SS with Ultra Bases (4) under Cybershaft UPOCXO-01-OP21
SHUNYATA TRITON v3 with chassis grounding system and CGS cables
SHUNYATA TYPHON QR
Signal Grounding System and SGS cables
Elrod Systems Statement Gold Speaker Cables 9-foot (2 pair)
Elrod Systems Statement Gold XLR 6-foot (1 pair)
Elrod Systems Statement Gold XLR 4-meter (1 pair)
Shunyata SIGMA v2 AES/EBU XLR 110-ohm 2-meter (2)
Shunyata SIGMA CLOCK-50 v2 50-ohm BNC 2-meter (2)
Shunyata Anaconda Zitron XLR 6-meter
Elrod Systems DIAMOND XLR 6-foot with Enhanced Ground Plane XLR (1 pair)
Elrod Systems MASTERS SERIES Diamond power cable 10-foot 15-amp w/Furutech FI-50 NCF
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Statement Gold power cable 10-foot 20-Amp w/Furutech FI-50 NCF
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Statement Gold power cable 10-foot 15-amp w/ Furutech FI-50 NCF (2)
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Statement Gold power cable 10-foot 15-Amp w/Furutech FI-50 NCF
Elrod Systems MASTER SERIES Statement Gold power cable 9-foot 15-Amp w/Furutech FI-50 NCF (2)
Shunyata OMEGA QR 15-amp 2-meter
Shunyata. NR v2 15-amp 1.5-meter
Avatar Acoustics Afterburner8 Duplex Outlets (5)
Adona Corporation AV45CS4 AV45CS2 and multiple AV45CS1 audio racks
Composite Audio CF-2010 Platforms (multiple)
Harmonic Resolution Systems DPX Large Damping Plates (7)
Harmonic Resolution Systems DPX Medium Damping Plates (4)
B.M.C. PureUSB1 5-meter
Computer Audio/Rip Playback: Apple MacBook Pro 15” 2019, 6-core i9, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, Audirvana+ v3, iTunes, REW Audio Analyzer for MacOS, dbPowerAmp, DVD Audio Extractor
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I was able to complete some substantial changes and additions to the system in the last half of 2021 culminating in the upgrade of my preamp on Christmas Eve and the upgrade of my CD & SACD Transport and DAC stack on December 30th from the 3-box Esoteric P-02 and D-02 (and Cybershaft 10 mHz master clock) that I'd achieved many great years with and been able to extract the maximum performance out of through the use of Shunyata Sigma then Sigma V2 and ultimately Shunyata OMEGA Digital cables and other Shunyata key offerings (more info on those in another post), Elrod Master Series power cords, analog XLRs and additional Statement Gold and Diamond XLRs over the years.
A few pictures are shown below,...things are still getting in to final shape as I just received a couple of additional Adona AV45 racks needed to accommodate the rest of the gear after the reshuffle and add of the new front-end stack and am expecting a few more HRS large damping plates to complete the setup later this week as shipments are running late.
Overall I've just added the following and have been enjoying the upgrade immensely:
- added a new Esoteric Master SoundWorks C-02X dual-mono pre-amplifier to close out the year
- added an Esoteric GRANDIOSO P1 and D1 4-box stack to close out the year (same low-hours, mint condition stack seen at Capital Audio Fest 2021 with full warranty)
(retained my Cybershaft OP21A Type2 curated Premium Ltd 10 mHz master clock; matches perfectly and performs like the G1X at a fraction of the cost)
- upgraded clock cables from Shunyata Sigma V2 to OMEGA Clock-50 cables
- moved to an Elrod Master Series Gold pc on the clock
- added a new HDPLEX 300W LPSU as an upgrade to the prior 200W (2019 version)
- upgraded a power cord that for my HDPLEX 300W to a Shunyata OMEGA QR-s
- added Audioquest Firebird 48 HDMI cables / unfortunately with the P1 and D1 stack, while AES will work well, dual-HDMI to leverage the
newer enhanced ES-Link4 processing deliver a superior musical result so I had to say good bye to the best AES/EBU cables I'd ever used (Shunyata OMEGA AES/EBU)
- early in 2021, upgraded 2 Elrod power cords from Statement Gold to Masters Series Diamonds, also upgraded a key pair of analog XLRs to the Masters Series Diamond (were Statement Gold)
- received the new Legacy Wavelet V2 as a long-awaiting upgrade to the V1 I've used in 3 different systems...(the Wavelet v2 is a MAJOR upgrade)
- added key signal grounding and chassis grounding upgrades and additional usage (many more details on another thread on this alone)
- cable management changes (rather substantial...)
I'm very grateful to have been able to make all these changes which have taken the system's abilities way up the scale musically and also shown me
even more of the vast capabilities of the Legacy VALOR speakers; I've had them since June 2020 and they keep showing me more and more of their
capabilities, still learning about them over a year and a half later!
The level of detail and increased musical realism coming from discs that I count on to measure (musically, imaging, etc...) every system change is outstanding.
A few pictures are shown below,...things are still getting in to final shape as I just received a couple of additional Adona AV45 racks needed to accommodate the rest of the gear after the reshuffle and add of the new front-end stack and am expecting a few more HRS large damping plates to complete the setup later this week as shipments are running late.
Overall I've just added the following and have been enjoying the upgrade immensely:
- added a new Esoteric Master SoundWorks C-02X dual-mono pre-amplifier to close out the year
- added an Esoteric GRANDIOSO P1 and D1 4-box stack to close out the year (same low-hours, mint condition stack seen at Capital Audio Fest 2021 with full warranty)
(retained my Cybershaft OP21A Type2 curated Premium Ltd 10 mHz master clock; matches perfectly and performs like the G1X at a fraction of the cost)
- upgraded clock cables from Shunyata Sigma V2 to OMEGA Clock-50 cables
- moved to an Elrod Master Series Gold pc on the clock
- added a new HDPLEX 300W LPSU as an upgrade to the prior 200W (2019 version)
- upgraded a power cord that for my HDPLEX 300W to a Shunyata OMEGA QR-s
- added Audioquest Firebird 48 HDMI cables / unfortunately with the P1 and D1 stack, while AES will work well, dual-HDMI to leverage the
newer enhanced ES-Link4 processing deliver a superior musical result so I had to say good bye to the best AES/EBU cables I'd ever used (Shunyata OMEGA AES/EBU)
- early in 2021, upgraded 2 Elrod power cords from Statement Gold to Masters Series Diamonds, also upgraded a key pair of analog XLRs to the Masters Series Diamond (were Statement Gold)
- received the new Legacy Wavelet V2 as a long-awaiting upgrade to the V1 I've used in 3 different systems...(the Wavelet v2 is a MAJOR upgrade)
- added key signal grounding and chassis grounding upgrades and additional usage (many more details on another thread on this alone)
- cable management changes (rather substantial...)
I'm very grateful to have been able to make all these changes which have taken the system's abilities way up the scale musically and also shown me
even more of the vast capabilities of the Legacy VALOR speakers; I've had them since June 2020 and they keep showing me more and more of their
capabilities, still learning about them over a year and a half later!
The level of detail and increased musical realism coming from discs that I count on to measure (musically, imaging, etc...) every system change is outstanding.
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Upgrades done over the last couple of months w.r.t. cable management....
